Become a nurse in just 12 months!!!

Gennaver, MSN · Dec 12, 2005

This topic could be argued until your blue in the face and there will still be people who refuse to listen to reason or facts. It is best to just let them keep their hostility and continue to succeed with your education. If you had the critical thinking skills to get through your original bachelors degree, in ADDITION to getting through a tremoundously stressful accelerated BSN program you will be an excellent nurse. US OR ABROAD.

Hi,

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Many incorrect beliefs and outright lies are spread about these degrees also. here we have explained repeatedly how much this degree entails yet, posters here respond with, "you can get your degree in only four months," or "its a cracker jack box degree" or "its a quickie degree" and so on. Pfft, puh-lease, what are we ten years old?

The one that really surprised me to read is the blatant blanket statement about "THE accelerated program" from the US not being recognized. What cracks me up so much is the major broad stroke from that brush. Two universities in my area that do not fit that, which I have shared, are Loyola Unvisity and Rush University. Both are leading institutions and both have the 'misnomer' fast track second BSN.

Okay, I generally do not even try to go round and round anymore like this, not even with my toddler nieces! :)

....next...

Gen

Sheri257 · Dec 12, 2005

Many incorrect beliefs and outright lies are spread about these degrees also. here we have explained repeatedly how much this degree entails yet, posters here respond with, "you can get your degree in only four months," or "its a cracker jack box degree" or "its a quickie degree" and so on. Pfft, puh-lease, what are we ten years old?

What the accelerated bsn people are missing here is that even if the course work is "the same," people are having a hard time imagining how this is done without some short cuts. Especially since they've already been through nursing school, and they know how much material there is to cover in what is actually a short time even with traditional programs.

Personally, I can't imagine how we would condense my two year ADN into just one year, even if we worked straight through the winter and summer breaks. I seriously doubt we could do it all without skipping at least some of the material. We have enough trouble covering everything we need to cover with the limited time we have now.

And with a BSN that would normally take at least three years ... even when you have the general ed and pre-reqs done ... well ... it seems impossible ... unless there's short cuts.

Therein lies the problem, IMHO. As I stated before, I don't even think a two year ADN is enough time, really, to be adequately prepared as an RN.

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hope3456, ASN, RN · Dec 12, 2005

Forgive me if this is slightly off-topic, but since we are discussing college degrees, thought y'all might have an opinion... b/c I am slightly confused and curious....

In the Sunday Denver Post yesterday in the "perspectives" section, the author was discussing how minority and low income h.s. students don't have a fair shake at success in our great state (colorado). She cites several statistics to make her point, but then goes on to say that those (low income and minority students) that do earn a college degree....it is most likely to be a "low-level" degree. Not any more better specified.

Now WHAT exactly constitutes a LOW-LEVEL degree??? Associates degree? A liberal arts degree? I wonder if she considers a nursing degree to be so b/c I know up until maybe 10yrs ago it definately was considered so (by mainstream society).....

I don't know how you determine the "success" of a degree or its "level"...obviously there are many diff opinions...is it by the financial return it brings you, or is it personal fufillment, or maybe what you can do for society b/c of it. It seems like by any of these factors (or several others) a degree could be determined to be "high level or low level" but I think it is still very subjective.

It is bothering me and I found it to be a slightly inflammatory statement. I might try to contact the author (if I feel ambitious today)

Any opinions?

RNdec2005 · Dec 12, 2005

Hi,
What I do know is that many programs are eliminating the wording 'accelerated' because it is a misnomer at the very least. The programs I have heard of (in Chicago there is Rush university and Loyola) the only thing accelerated is the time frame of the classes. They are still the same classes but, the traditional summer breaks, winter breaks, spring breaks and so on, do not exist. The students must work straight through.
Completing the same courses, (and many times more) than traditional ADN and or BSN students.
So, this makes me wonder why on earth other countries would not recognize it as valid, especially coupled with passing NCLEX RN and earning licensure?
Gen

I will graduate this Friday from an 18 month BSN program for people who already hold a bachelors degree. Ours is not called rapid track, instead it is aptly titled "compressed" because the normal 2 yr workload is compressed into shorter semesters. I have found the accelerated program to be very enriching and I would recommend to everyone.

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BeenThereDoneThat74, MSN, RN · Dec 12, 2005

what the accelerated bsn people are missing here is that even if the course work is "the same," people are having a hard time imagining how this is done without some short cuts. especially since they've already been through nursing school, and they know how much material there is to cover in what is actually a short time even with traditional programs.
personally, i can't imagine how we would condense my two year adn into just one year, even if we worked straight through the winter and summer breaks. i seriously doubt we could do it all without skipping at least some of the material. we have enough trouble covering everything we need to cover with the limited time we have now.
and with a bsn that would normally take at least three years ... even when you have the general ed and pre-reqs done ... well ... it seems impossible ... unless there's short cuts.
therein lies the problem, imho. as i stated before, i don't even think a two year adn is enough time, really, to be adequately prepared as an rn.

i think that is the point, for those (myself included) who question the "accelerated" programs. i know that is part of what i am thinking. in teaching on the adn level, i sometimes feel the same way. although admittedly, i have nothing to compare it too, as my original degree was an associate's as well. i know a couple of people who graduated from these programs (some from a very prestigious school in nyc, i might add), and feel like they 'zoomed' through nursing school. maybe the content was the same, maybe not, it's hard to compare. obviously the expectations are higher for these students, as the workload is condensed. but to me, it sounds like they did far less clinical hours than some of the traditional programs i know of. and they've honestly admitted that they do not feel ready to graduate and be an rn (i know most of us feel that way, regardless of the program we were in). i just think some people need more time to absorb than others. just like some people cannot take a heavy duty class in the summer, as they feel it is not enough time to absorb. you're having a test or paper every week. i know from experience, professors don't care if you have family/work and are taking a summer class. if you couldn't handle it, you shouldn't have signed up for it.

rhp123 · Dec 13, 2005

Intersting thing to know that accelerated program is not recognized in European countries. If this is true, I feel bad for these people who spend so much money on the accelerated thing.

youknowho · Dec 13, 2005

Intersting thing to know that accelerated program is not recognized in European countries. If this is true, I feel bad for these people who spend so much money on the accelerated thing.

I may visit Europe someday but have NO intentions of being a nurse anywhere but here in CA. Luckily for me, CA BON will recognize my "cracker jack degree" and I will sit for the NCLEX the same as everyone else...to me thats what matters in the end.

Oh by the way, I already have a job with a contract when I graduate a year from now:) To top it off, my school is paid for by the future employer which I had the opportunity of choosing.

youknowho · Dec 13, 2005

I don't even think a two year ADN is enough time, really, to be adequately prepared as an RN.

Yet I dont see a thread about how an ADN program is waste of money and time. hmmm. :rolleyes:

rhp123 · Dec 13, 2005

I may visit Europe someday but have NO intentions of being a nurse anywhere but here in CA. Luckily for me, CA BON will recognize my "cracker jack degree" and I will sit for the NCLEX the same as everyone else...to me thats what matters in the end.
Oh by the way, I already have a job with a contract when I graduate a year from now:) To top it off, my school is paid for by the future employer which I had the opportunity of choosing.

That's good news to hear. Most people do not want to pratice in other countries. Besides, I once saw an Ad for Nurse to work in Mideast, the qulifaction is Rn license in US or Canada plus two years experience. I didn't see anything about length of education on the ad.

BCzito · Dec 13, 2005

This is an excellent point.
Originally Posted by shodobe
You don't see MDs cutting their medical school in half just so there can be more doctors out there.
And you also don't see MD's going back through medical school when they want a second specialization. They just go back for the part reguarding the specialization. I am not skipping any class that any other nurse has to take. I took them all plus an additional 130 credits of courses most of which were biology courses. YOU GUYS ARE MAKING ON ARGUMENT BASED ON THE BELIEF THAT THERE ARE NO PREREQS WHICH IS INVALID THEREFORE YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID. its logic.. I must have learned logic in one of those courses I took but you didn't.

DidiRN · Dec 13, 2005

Let's here from some graduates of these programs who have been out in the field for a while (ie. at least out of orientation)...haven't seen any yet on this thread. Or some people who have trained some of these accelerated grads.