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    you are just trying to encourage other nurses skip valuable training and endanger a patient's life if you do that. i think it's bad just to give other filipino nurses the illusion that a tourist visa will guarantee them a job in america. they discriminate people as well and they will trample you down if you are a newbie. better be safe than sorry. especially if you don't know much about lawsuits in america.

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    Try to have experience first for your own sake..You'll have a much harder time trying to cope up with trainings especially in the USA..
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    it is not necessary to have trainings back home...

    when i was interviewed for my employment last Sept 4, the intervieweer asked me:

    "what is the biggest obstacle you think you will face as you practivenursing here?"...

    My answer was:

    "i think its the lackof experience in this profession.."

    the interviewer replied: "that is your asset. because it is better to train people that to untrain them."

    i am just sharing my experience, and i know this is not the general glimpse of what reality is......

    but then again, with the on going retrogression, there is no point missing opportunity to train back home.

    Goodluck to everyone....
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    Quote from mahoronurse
    you are just trying to encourage other nurses skip valuable training and endanger a patient's life if you do that. i think it's bad just to give other filipino nurses the illusion that a tourist visa will guarantee them a job in america. they discriminate people as well and they will trample you down if you are a newbie. better be safe than sorry. especially if you don't know much about lawsuits in america.
    re this thread, we are NOT at all encouraging not to have experience when you come to work here in the US. we all know how a lot of nursing graduates didn't have any acute hospital experience before because it was hard to find one as there were more nurses than jobs and also these new grads that are trying their luck here.what we are trying to point here is:it is NOT a disadvantage not to have an acute hospital experience at all - and i am basing it through my own experience.when i started working here, all i had was the knowledge i gained in nursing school.
    yes, discrimination exists anywhere, even in our own countries(i got discriminated when i went to nursing school in the city as i was from the province) but if you stand your ground, you're good to go.
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    Quote from mtreyes
    it is not necessary to have trainings back home...

    . . .

    the interviewer replied: "that is your asset. because it is better to train people that to untrain them."
    Quote from k3immigrant
    what we are trying to point here is:it is NOT a disadvantage not to have an acute hospital experience at all - and i am basing it through my own experience.
    this was also the feedback I got from RN friends who are now working in the US.

    from what I know, agencies in the Philippines are the ones insisting on Philippine nursing experience.
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    Quote from pinoy_guy
    this was also the feedback I got from RN friends who are now working in the US.

    from what I know, agencies in the Philippines are the ones insisting on Philippine nursing experience.
    Yup, it's only the agency requiring these...to protect their names perhaps.
    From a personal experience during my interview w/ a U.S. employer...the chief nurse said that its ok for them to hire fresh grads even w/o hosp. experience because they themselves have lots of fresh grads who were fast-learners.
    Anyway, since there's a retrogression, it would be a better move to gain some hosp. experience for continued learning. And just because hosp. experience is not required in the U.S., doesnt mean you would altogether neglect your career growth when you're still in your home country. Dont work in a job that pays (e.g. call center)>> still opt for nursing-related though you get minimum wage...argh!.
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    Quote from lawrence01
    That's how it is done here. That's the system. If it's correct or not is open for debate.

    However, once a nurse becomes a regular staff every routine procedure should be done 1st by the staff and they get only 1 try then suppose to pass the "buck" to the next in line w/c are the interns then in turn to the residents.
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    both ways, none of that should be acceptable (i.e. the doctor relying on the nurse's assessment or the nurse depending on the clerk/intern). nursing and medicine are considered distinct professions answerable to different practice standards. nurses aren't doctors' handmaids hence it is only right that they assess their patients separately as well as make their own nursing diagnoses to carry out. doctors write medical diagnoses and whatever treatment/management they order will be collarborative with nursing or other professional interventions.
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    Quote from nrswnabee
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    both ways, none of that should be acceptable (i.e. the doctor relying on the nurse's assessment or the nurse depending on the clerk/intern). nursing and medicine are considered distinct professions answerable to different practice standards. nurses aren't doctors' handmaids hence it is only right that they assess their patients separately as well as make their own nursing diagnoses to carry out. doctors write medical diagnoses and whatever treatment/management they order will be collarborative with nursing or other professional interventions.
    Yes, you are correct. Unfortunately, that is how it is done in most hospitals here, esp. w/ those that have both medical clerks and interns.

    But just want to make some clarifications (to be fair) that consultant doctors never rely on the nurse's assessments but they rely on their residents and the residents sometimes rely on their interns and/or clerks.

    If you would notice.. the medical clerks and/or interns do the V/S, follow-up the labs, maintains the NGTs and other cathethers and tubes, does the daily wound-care, administers medications (except for the routine ones), etc..

    I'm sure you observed these here.
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    Quote from lawrence01
    Yes, you are correct. Unfortunately, that is how it is done in most hospitals here, esp. w/ those that have both medical clerks and interns.

    But just want to make some clarifications (to be fair) that consultant doctors never rely on the nurse's assessments but they rely on their residents and the residents sometimes rely on their interns and/or clerks.

    If you would notice.. the medical clerks and/or interns do the V/S, follow-up the labs, maintains the NGTs and other cathethers and tubes, does the daily wound-care, administers medications (except for the routine ones), etc..

    I'm sure you observed these here.
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    first, i miss the doggie avatar, hehe.

    yeah, i'm simply saying how things should be (as we've been taught it should be). i never really had the chance to see how it is home but from what i remember my sister tells me, way back when she was an md student, they would often ask the nurses about how-to's (foleys, IV, etc...) as they USUALLY know better hands-on than some doctors who must have stopped touching pts after medical school, hehe. (NO generalization here and no offense directed to anyone....)
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    Quote from nrswnabee
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    first, i miss the doggie avatar, hehe.

    yeah, i'm simply saying how things should be (as we've been taught it should be). i never really had the chance to see how it is home but from what i remember my sister tells me, way back when she was an md student, they would often ask the nurses about how-to's (foleys, IV, etc...) as they USUALLY know better hands-on than some doctors who must have stopped touching pts after medical school, hehe. (NO generalization here and no offense directed to anyone....)
    Yes, you are correct. Non-surgical consultant doctors pretty much stop doing procedures after their residency training.


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