work abroad w/out experience.. possible? - page 3

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    imo, experience would do a new nurse more good... NOT to satisfy anyone else's requirement but simply for your own benefit. wouldn't it be enough reason that experience gives you the chance to perfect your skills, handle all kinds of temperaments and be unperturbed with the stress of it all? any profession values experience because of the learning opportunities that come along with it. how much more important should it be for health care? even if you plan to work somewhere else, i don't see environment to be such a big issue. with your experience, you'll be more confident to face whatever challenge served on your plate....
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    regarding your question, YES it is possible and US immigration laws do NOT require experience to be petitioned for an immigrant visa
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    Quote from balutpinoysabutuan
    with or without experience is not a problem when youre planning to work overseas coz it is a new ball game and a new setting.it is your desire and willingness to learn that matters most.
    that sounds so promising and uplifting to us new nurses who took the initiative to take all the exams first then later on will go on duty as staff nurses.

    but the scenario here is that agencies do require at least a year of experience before a local nurse would be hired for overseas work. as i assessed it, the purpose of this could be for protection-- agencies doing the screening, hospital and patients and ultimately the nurse her/himself. but since the immigration will take a while, i heard there is a minimum of 14 months processing? i see this period as the time that a new nurse (nurse who passed the cg/nclex and english exams) like me can indulge in apprenticeship but the processing of petition should start right away. time is maximized this way.

    im quite taken aback with this scenario. i need to go on duty first for a year before i become so marketable. im one of those who are most willing to learn and improve my craft. see, all the exams, are results of my own initiative and determination. but since im burried with my own world--- i am reviewing for nclex right now and i got a lot of stuff to attend to-- i havent known in my circle that an employer hired a nurse who has no experience but passed the cg and ielts. is there anyone here who was lucky, very lucky, to be employed even without experience??? please shout! and uplift my spirit.

    since im just new in the arena and i havent explored yet the internet, im also thinking that i could have probably not yet tapped the right person or connection who can help me out. huhhhh! i'll try to manage this concern after my nclex in october. i'll see.

    heiyeah, thanks!
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    You will be hired if you passed NCLEX and IELTS even if you don't have experience. But right you are, the agency will ask you to gain experience during the waiting time, which I think is sensible.

    The issue here is whether it is ok or not to go to US to work even if one does not have experience. If US hospital accepts a newbie, why not? US hospital always hires a newbie graduate from American school so why not hire a newbie graduate from a Philippine school as long as everything is done legally?
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    No matter what your experience in the Philippines it wouldn't matter here in US let alone 10 years of ICU there. Just know your basic nursing skills and the rest will be taught to you during your orientation in the hospital. As I said a right amount of orientation will be given to you depending upon the unit of your choice or whoever hires you. The hospital that hired you or even your manager to Director of Nursing wouldn't even have the slightest idea of what your "agency" requires. It doesn't go beyond that you're being judge because you don't know anything and reflects back to where you came from and what agency hired you, and the "agency" is accounted for. It's nothing like that here at all...believe me. Whatever position you have in the Philippines, it wouldn't matter here at all. Everybody is equal from Filipino to Indians, Mexicans, Hispanics to newly graduate US nurses. All that is newly hired will be treated in equal amount of orientation. And the designated preceptor will evaluate his/her orientee weekly, and weekly meetings as well with your nurse educator, manager plus the preceptor and the orientee. I am a preceptor/charge nurse here so basically I know this. And have grounds to say that your experience in the Philippines doesn't matter. The CPR credential or certificate that you obtain from Philippine Red Cross is not recognized here at all because it's not accredited by American Heart Association. We have what we call BLS card (Basic Life Support) then to ACLS (Advance Cardiac Life Support)...and more certification. Save your money because you will need it, then read your nursing books over and over again, believe me, it'll help a lot. Because orientation doesn't only involve evaluation on skills but also knowledge. Yes I mean exams...weekly..every systems..and BTW did I say basic computer skills too? Yup, tests/exams are given computer based just like your NCLEX or TOEFL. And also just for your info, most hospitals don't handwrite their nursing notes to doctors order anymore, it's all computer based as well..so really just stay put and save you're money and energy because you will need it.
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    Quote from asianrn
    No matter what your experience in the Philippines it wouldn't matter here in US let alone 10 years of ICU there. Just know your basic nursing skills and the rest will be taught to you during your orientation in the hospital. As I said a right amount of orientation will be given to you depending upon the unit of your choice or whoever hires you. The hospital that hired you or even your manager to Director of Nursing wouldn't even have the slightest idea of what your "agency" requires. It doesn't go beyond that you're being judge because you don't know anything and reflects back to where you came from and what agency hired you, and the "agency" is accounted for. It's nothing like that here at all...believe me. Whatever position you have in the Philippines, it wouldn't matter here at all. Everybody is equal from Filipino to Indians, Mexicans, Hispanics to newly graduate US nurses. All that is newly hired will be treated in equal amount of orientation. And the designated preceptor will evaluate his/her orientee weekly, and weekly meetings as well with your nurse educator, manager plus the preceptor and the orientee. I am a preceptor/charge nurse here so basically I know this. And have grounds to say that your experience in the Philippines doesn't matter. The CPR credential or certificate that you obtain from Philippine Red Cross is not recognized here at all because it's not accredited by American Heart Association. We have what we call BLS card (Basic Life Support) then to ACLS (Advance Cardiac Life Support)...and more certification. Save your money because you will need it, then read your nursing books over and over again, believe me, it'll help a lot. Because orientation doesn't only involve evaluation on skills but also knowledge. Yes I mean exams...weekly..every systems..and BTW did I say basic computer skills too? Yup, tests/exams are given computer based just like your NCLEX or TOEFL. And also just for your info, most hospitals don't handwrite their nursing notes to doctors order anymore, it's all computer based as well..so really just stay put and save you're money and energy because you will need it.

    Thank you for imparting your knowledge and experiences. These will help out many Filipino RNs wishing to work in the US.

    Hope they listen to those who have actual experiences with these things and not just any local professor, reviewer or some staff in agencies that aren't even licensed in the U.S. or the very least applied for the NCLEX and passed it.
    Last edit by lawrence01 on Aug 11, '06
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    yeah thanks asiarn for sharing those infos!
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    Quote from asianrn
    No matter what your experience in the Philippines it wouldn't matter here in US let alone 10 years of ICU there. Just know your basic nursing skills and the rest will be taught to you during your orientation in the hospital. As I said a right amount of orientation will be given to you depending upon the unit of your choice or whoever hires you. The hospital that hired you or even your manager to Director of Nursing wouldn't even have the slightest idea of what your "agency" requires. It doesn't go beyond that you're being judge because you don't know anything and reflects back to where you came from and what agency hired you, and the "agency" is accounted for. It's nothing like that here at all...believe me. Whatever position you have in the Philippines, it wouldn't matter here at all. Everybody is equal from Filipino to Indians, Mexicans, Hispanics to newly graduate US nurses. All that is newly hired will be treated in equal amount of orientation. And the designated preceptor will evaluate his/her orientee weekly, and weekly meetings as well with your nurse educator, manager plus the preceptor and the orientee. I am a preceptor/charge nurse here so basically I know this. And have grounds to say that your experience in the Philippines doesn't matter. The CPR credential or certificate that you obtain from Philippine Red Cross is not recognized here at all because it's not accredited by American Heart Association. We have what we call BLS card (Basic Life Support) then to ACLS (Advance Cardiac Life Support)...and more certification. Save your money because you will need it, then read your nursing books over and over again, believe me, it'll help a lot. Because orientation doesn't only involve evaluation on skills but also knowledge. Yes I mean exams...weekly..every systems..and BTW did I say basic computer skills too? Yup, tests/exams are given computer based just like your NCLEX or TOEFL. And also just for your info, most hospitals don't handwrite their nursing notes to doctors order anymore, it's all computer based as well..so really just stay put and save you're money and energy because you will need it.
    it is so enlightening! thanks for sharing us your knowledge and your experience.

    good thing it is a fair playing field out there where everyone is equal regardless of race or work experience. new hirees, as you say, will undergo hospital orientation.

    so would you say it is better to be directly hired by hospitals than go thru an agency? most of the agencies here i inquired from have requirement of at least a year of experience. so to do away with that, new nurses like me, who already passed cg/nclex and ielts, have to check out hospitals willing to sponsor RN's here in the phils. hehehey. the net!

    so as it is necessary, a good resume and cover letter can help us out. well. after i passed my cgfns, i tried emailing several hospitals applying for RN position but my search was nill. they dont sponsor or they refer me to their agencies here which of course, would require me to have work experience. will see. and will try again my luck.

    ohfairygodmotherhelpme.

    good day to everyone! thanks asianrn! im delighted to read your post. will be monitoring.
    Last edit by asyana on Aug 12, '06
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    Quote from Tuy Nurse
    yes very possible! those who require experience are the employment agencies only. my sister has a tourist visa, a walk in applicant in CA and she is working for 6 months now!
    Hi there. I just wonder how is it possible to just have the tourist visa instead of a working visa? Can you give me an advice regarding this? Thanx!
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    Quote from asianrn
    No matter what your experience in the Philippines it wouldn't matter here in US let alone 10 years of ICU there. Just know your basic nursing skills and the rest will be taught to you during your orientation in the hospital. As I said a right amount of orientation will be given to you depending upon the unit of your choice or whoever hires you. The hospital that hired you or even your manager to Director of Nursing wouldn't even have the slightest idea of what your "agency" requires. It doesn't go beyond that you're being judge because you don't know anything and reflects back to where you came from and what agency hired you, and the "agency" is accounted for. It's nothing like that here at all...believe me. Whatever position you have in the Philippines, it wouldn't matter here at all. Everybody is equal from Filipino to Indians, Mexicans, Hispanics to newly graduate US nurses. All that is newly hired will be treated in equal amount of orientation. And the designated preceptor will evaluate his/her orientee weekly, and weekly meetings as well with your nurse educator, manager plus the preceptor and the orientee. I am a preceptor/charge nurse here so basically I know this. And have grounds to say that your experience in the Philippines doesn't matter. The CPR credential or certificate that you obtain from Philippine Red Cross is not recognized here at all because it's not accredited by American Heart Association. We have what we call BLS card (Basic Life Support) then to ACLS (Advance Cardiac Life Support)...and more certification. Save your money because you will need it, then read your nursing books over and over again, believe me, it'll help a lot. Because orientation doesn't only involve evaluation on skills but also knowledge. Yes I mean exams...weekly..every systems..and BTW did I say basic computer skills too? Yup, tests/exams are given computer based just like your NCLEX or TOEFL. And also just for your info, most hospitals don't handwrite their nursing notes to doctors order anymore, it's all computer based as well..so really just stay put and save you're money and energy because you will need it.
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    if i'm not understanding the flow of this thread and where you're coming from as a nurse-preceptor, i'd surely balk at your pronouncement that experience doesn't count for anything. for procedures, policies and certain standards relevant to the company, i'm not denying instruction is absolutely necessary, however, it wouldn't hurt to have some exposure to hone some nursing skills, effective communication, interacting, some critical thinking skills or even learning how to deal with what's unlikeable about the work, would it? as a nurse-wannabe (obviously), i wouldn't shirk at the chance to garner experience for my personal enrichment :spin: . people learn differently and through different ways, too and inorder to maximize that potential, i think it's not at all useless to immerse one's self in the practice. i want to be good in this profession and thoroughly appreciate the process involved to achieve it. i know it seems cotton-candy ideal but really, that's how i want this second career to be. ok, you can pull the rug off my feet now.


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