US demand for Filipino nurses declining - educator - page 3

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us demand for filipino nurses declining - educator change in work attitude... i wonder if this is related to the nurses who got "fast track" bsns, all in less than 6 months. cgfns & uscis have to crack down on these... Read More


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    there is only one reason why demand for filipino nurses is declining: retrogression
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    Do not agree with the above entirely, it is definitely not the only reason: walking from a contract is probably at a higher level on the list. This is what has irritated many HR people.

    And then there is the need to wait for any foreign nurse to be petitioned: look at NY state for hospitals, or even the Bay Area. Just not happening, and that was the case before the retrogression kicked in last year.
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    Has somebody in here ever heard of buying out a contract when they no longer want to finish it?

    Those nurses you claimed to have walked from their contracts after receiving their green card ---may have walked from their contracts--but you know very well that there is always a penalty for breaching such contracts.

    Direct Hire, agencies name it-- they dont just make a deal without getting their fair share of money. Once the nurse breaches his contract, he is very much entitled to pay its corresponding penalty.

    Why force oneself to work in an environment that is of no good when the grass is greener on the other side?

    Direct hire, agencies and nurses breaching their contracts: They are all in a WIN-WIN SITUATION.
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    has anyone here ever heard of buying out a contract?


    quote: ''walking from a contract is probably at a higher level on the list. this is what has irritated many hr people.'' what about the nurses welfare? does the hr have the sole right to be irritated by nurses walking from their contract. let's not forget to see why these nurses are breaching their contracts. the environment may not have been good. furthermore, the terms and conditions stated when they signed the contract were not kept just like what happened to the nurses who had been victims of the sentosa firm.

    why would you want to work when you are not well compensated? or simply if what was written in print (contract) just remained in writing--no actions

    direct hire, agencies--they dont just make a commitment where they would end up losing their fair share of the deal.

    yes, they are irritated by nurses walking from their contracts. however, when a nurse breaches his contract, he always gets to pay its corresponding penalty. i still have the contracts here from various agencies and direct hire. for terminating a contract, you get to pay them ranging from $10,000 - $50,000.

    this is what a lot of nurses have done. when they feel that they have not been treated well and they have already received their green card, they buy out their contracts to move on or transfer to another hospital that suits them well; where they feel that they are well-compensated. direct hire, agencies get their fair share of the deal when the nurse pays the penalty for terminating his contract.

    why suffer when the grass is greener on the other side? why suffer when you are not treated well?

    agencies, direct hire and nurses breaching their contracts-- they are all in a win-win situation.
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    You know what Lasagna_RN?! I totally agree with you!!!! There's a reason for everything! And nurses have reasons why they are breaching contracts! That's the fact that employers sometimes don't see.... They just see the point that a Filipino nurses breach they're contract without even looking what they've done for nurses to do that!
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    Quote from lasagna_rn
    has anyone here ever heard of buying out a contract?


    quote: ''walking from a contract is probably at a higher level on the list. this is what has irritated many hr people.'' what about the nurses welfare? does the hr have the sole right to be irritated by nurses walking from their contract. let's not forget to see why these nurses are breaching their contracts. the environment may not have been good. furthermore, the terms and conditions stated when they signed the contract were not kept just like what happened to the nurses who had been victims of the sentosa firm.

    why would you want to work when you are not well compensated? or simply if what was written in print (contract) just remained in writing--no actions

    direct hire, agencies--they dont just make a commitment where they would end up losing their fair share of the deal.

    yes, they are irritated by nurses walking from their contracts. however, when a nurse breaches his contract, he always gets to pay its corresponding penalty. i still have the contracts here from various agencies and direct hire. for terminating a contract, you get to pay them ranging from $10,000 - $50,000.

    this is what a lot of nurses have done. when they feel that they have not been treated well and they have already received their green card, they buy out their contracts to move on or transfer to another hospital that suits them well; where they feel that they are well-compensated. direct hire, agencies get their fair share of the deal when the nurse pays the penalty for terminating his contract.

    why suffer when the grass is greener on the other side? why suffer when you are not treated well?

    agencies, direct hire and nurses breaching their contracts-- they are all in a win-win situation.
    i know about the sentosa situation. i work here in long island.
    sentosa wasn't the only problem agency. there is another hospital.
    i will not elaborate further.

    but what if there is no clause to buy out the contract? what if the employee refuses to buy out the contract and just walks out? what happens when an agency refuses to let go? what now? labor relations had to step in.

    when both parties enter into a contract and no one fulfills their end of the contract....its a feeling of being duped too right? on the part of the agency as well as the nurse itself?

    but you are right... its all about the money. its always all about the money
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    i totally agree with what lasagna_RN said.is there wrong if the nurse wants to get out from the contract especially if she is able to pay the corresponding penalty and if the agency is already abusing her right as a person??? if you are the nurse and you find your agency's rules and regulations inhumane and u have the money to get out of that contract, wont you pull urself out of that situation????........

    i feel that these agencies just came to realize that filipinos now are smart enough to think for themselves,their safety and whats best for them and that theyre just threatened because if during the past 10years filipino nurses sticks to their agency despite of their inhumane treatment,now they just found out that their abusive styles are no longer tolerated by the filipinos and they cant control us like robots anymore.

    tri citi medical center in california still looks for "filipino" nurses. specifically FILIPINO nurses...and theres alot of hospitals all over america specifies filipinos as their choice

    all you out there know the reason why STILL they are looking for filipinos.
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    Quote from pinoy_guy
    interesting observation.



    some "nurses" who got their bsns in less than 6 months--who paid a lot of money for their tors & diplomas--obviously can afford not to work.
    where did you get that info? outrageous!
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    This is all bad news for me because the state I chose to work in is California. If they aren't accepting Filipino RNs anymore, then I've nowhere to go.
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    Quote from jennypanic
    This is all bad news for me because the state I chose to work in is California. If they aren't accepting Filipino RNs anymore, then I've nowhere to go.
    Who said they are not hiring Filipino nurses anymore?


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