Shocked by new grads at job fair - page 6
I'm a BSN/RN with 5 years experience and I'd like to share my experience with a recent job fair. It was advertised as a job fair for "Experienced RNs ONLY!" (I won't say what organization put... Read More
9Jun 30, '12 by Ruby Vee[font=courier new]i find it interesting that being overweight (fat, obese, however you choose to put it) is looked at for the purposes of this thread the same as wearing shorts and flip flops to a job fair. i can tell you that fat people can (and do) make the effort to dress professionally and appropriately. being fat is not the same as being ill-mannered, unprofessional or inappropriately dressed.
4Jun 30, '12 by Laila1219Quote from Ruby VeeAgreed. While I completely agree with the OP regarding the unprofessionalism of the clothing, nails, and loudness I was wondering what the obesity had to do with it.I find it interesting that being overweight (Fat, obese, however you choose to put it) is looked at for the purposes of this thread the same as wearing shorts and flip flops to a job fair. I can tell you that fat people can (and do) make the effort to dress professionally and appropriately. Being fat is not the same as being ill-mannered, unprofessional or inappropriately dressed.
0Jun 30, '12 by whitebunnyi am shocked by this article. i am glad i have never made such awful appearence to any interview or job fair. I am glad i always tell myself simple things like arriving on time, not using cell phone, not using facebook, well grooming i have always obeyed the rules so i dont get into trouble. i have seen lots ppl losing jobs for those common sense, which is really not worthy the pay.
2Jun 30, '12 by Passion4Nursing2Quote from mclennanI'm a BSN/RN with 5 years experience and I'd like to share my experience with a recent job fair.
It was advertised as a job fair for "Experienced RNs ONLY!" (I won't say what organization put this on, I'm not here to bash them). It was deceptive; when I registered I was instructed to check in at noon, which I found unusual.
I arrived at 11AM, in a suit, a crisp white lab coat embroidered with my name and credentials, business cards in my pocket, and a stack of nicely bound resume portfolios. My nails were short and clean, and I wore my hair pulled back and minimal makeup.
I quickly figured out that the MORNING portion of the job fair was for new grads, and at NOON the experienced RNs were allowed in.
For the next hour while I waited for my turn to enter, I observed what I assumed were all new grads (all had the color-coded badge for new grads on) as they streamed out of the auditorium:
*Most were wearing casual/street clothes, even jeans and flip-flops. Some were wearing dirty scrubs. I didn't see a single suit or even business casual type outfit at all. Lots of open-toed shoes and exposed tattoos.
*Most were in groups walking together, laughing and giggling, screaming and yelling, on their phones, and being REALLY loud and inappropriate. Generally acting like teenagers!
*I saw lots of extremely obese women with HUGE sprayed hairdos and long, claw-like painted nails, yelling on their phones.
*Also, a lot of angry-looking moms who actually dragged their KID(s) to this!
*ALL were loaded down with freebies, tote bags, mugs, etc.
I went into the auditorium and it looked like a tornado had hit it. The recruiters at the booths looked exhausted. There was no food, coffee or freebies left. I even saw a couple of recruiters packing up to leave! I asked one, "how was the morning?" He shook his head and said "way worse than I was prepared for. They took everything." He had 4 banker's boxes full of resumes. He said, "there might be ONE in there worth hiring." I asked another wiped-out looking recruiter how things were going and she had the same reaction, with a lot of disgust. She had no more brochures, and was way over capacity for resumes, and expressed that she thought "most of these kids looked fresh out of high school recess."
I ended up standing in line at a booth with another RN, a military guy who decided to say hi, "because you're one of the few I see dressed appropriately!" He was in a suit also. We marveled at how insanely unprofessional the new grads seemed, and even most of the experienced RNs. He had 10 years experience and was really saddened at how much professionalism and dignity has disappeared from the profession. I agreed.
Please do not put all of us student or newly graduated Nurses in that category. I agree with you that a lot of nurses now seem to be lacking in professionalism and what I like to call class. I am a new older LPN graduate and am what you would call obese, but when it comes to my appearance and my actions I take them very seriously. I believe that a lot of the professionalism went out he door with the white uniforms. When I was taking STNA training I had an older RN instructor whom was very strict on how we presented ourselves as nurses, we wore the white uniform, short unpainted nails and hair up off the shoulders. When we had "dress down" days we still had to present ourselves as professionals. That has stuck with me for many many years and will alwasy stick with me. When I walk into a group of professional medical people I want to be looked at as a peer not as a " Kid or New graduate" Maybe companies and hospitals need to reevalutate dress code, the nails are a major no no in my book. I recently did a clinical at a long LTC facility and the LPNs there had tatoos up and down their forearms, huge ear rings, long nails, and long hair! what set them apart from the visitors but their wrinkled, faded scrubs? So I agree with you! These new grads need to step it up, older patients do not like disrespectful, unprofessional nurses, so look and act the part!!!
0Jun 30, '12 by KrystelMychelle, BSNOh dear. I am a new grad from Puerto Rico, I must say that it makes me sad that some colleges or universities doesnt teach the students how to prepare for the profesional environment. I live in an island where you can't, literally, look for a job in jeans and flip flops, not even for a dishwasher job. (And im not underestimating any profesion) You always have to look profesional, clean and secure about yourself. This only shows the lack of profesionalism of some institutions.
3Jun 30, '12 by SweetPEII sure did miss the obese statement. It was specific too... What I got from it is that only the obese people had"HUGE" sprayed hairdos, long claw-like nails while yelling on their phones. Perhaps they couldn't hear through their huge hairdos??
Seriously, professionalism also includes eliminating disrespect and refraining from down-talking others. Hopefully this is not reflected in your job as a healthcare professional.Last edit by SweetPEI on Jun 30, '12
1Jun 30, '12 by leenakWell I think the obese statement was uncalled for as well.
On your other comments, did you go to a job fair when you graduated? Were students like that then?
I'm coming from a completely different field and I graduated college (the first time) 14 years ago. We had frequent job fairs, our school had highly sought after candidates, we were in a boom in our industry and basically recruiters were fighting over new grads. This was also in California where people are known to be a bit more casual. Lots of students wore suits, I wore a dress suit, other women wore similar. Now you would see the guys that would wear jeans but this was an industry that was ok with that and generally if someone wore jeans, it meant that they had no intentions of ever wearing a suit and wanted a more casual work atmosphere. (again, recruiters were fighting over new grads so casual dress wasn't frowned upon, especially for those companies with more casual atmospheres)
It is unusual to hear of people dressing inappropriately to a job fair though, I imagine someone should provide the students with tips on talking with recruiters and asking the right questions as well as appropriate behavior.
0Jun 30, '12 by steffuturelpnWow I am a new grad lpn and I have seen this while job searching, its sad but I would never in a million years do this, but I see it all the time, I get fully dressed like im going on a interview just to fill out apps I guess that's y I had a job in 3 weeks after passing my boards