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I'm a new nurse with an ethical and practical problem. I was fortunate to be hired right out of school in exactly the job I wanted - on a specialty unit, with great support for new grads and a long orientation. In exchange, I signed a contract promising to stay 2 years, with financial penalties if I don't.

The work itself is great - reasonable management, humane working conditions, great coworkers, interesting patients. Amazing training for a new grad. I'm grateful to have it.

Here's problem #1: money. I make just over $20/hour, and it's not a particularly low-cost city; Houston TX is roughly comparable. I'm a second-career nurse, in my 40's, and my employer contributes nothing to my 401k (there is a pension, but 0% vested for 5 or 7 years I believe). Raises are minimal; I could expect to increase maybe $1/hr in the next couple years.

Of course, I knew the pay when I was hired. Somehow it didn't translate to the reality that my monthly net pay barely covers our rent after health insurance is deducted. I'm not able or willing to work a bunch of overtime or get a second job. This isn't a sustainable situation.

Problem #2: my whole family is elsewhere, in a city with a comparable cost of living and nursing salaries that are 30-50% higher.

I'm thinking about bailing at the end of my first year, when I'm no longer a "new grad." Part of me feels terrible about the idea - because I don't believe in blowing off commitments, because the unit managers have trained and treated me well, and because I think it's harmful to the job prospects of new grads coming behind me.

Part of me is awfully cynical about hospitals generally, and notices that (apart from managers and a handful of staff nurses) the most "senior" nurses in my department have been there for 1.5-3 years. There is a lot of turnover, which is probably why they require the payback. I could view my contract as business, more like a lease than a personal promise - if I leave early, I would of course pay back the required money.

At the root of things, no one knows how much time we have, and all things considered I'd rather spend mine close to family.

My questions are:

1) Has anyone considered a similar dilemma? What did/would you do?

2) Practically speaking, what are the implications? Are they likely to refuse to give me references or actively torpedo my job applications? (I would, of course, acknowledge to any prospective employer up front that I left my contract early).

Doesn't feel right to take all the training and walk away a few months later. But then, it doesn't feel great to be broke and far from home either.

Thanks for reading and considering.

In this market today, stay at least 2 years before you move on. One year experience isn't enough, over 2 seems like too much. This market is getting picky, and once you are coming up on that 2 year mark I'm pretty confident landing another job will be much easier. One year nowadays just isn't enough to get the job interviews rolling in.

Specializes in Emergency/Cath Lab.

I have bailed 1 year into a 2 year and owed money back. I had nothing bad happen because of it. I left a facility I did not like and now am at one I liked more. You do not have to disclose that you bailed on a contract at the previous facility so what difference does it make. Go where you are happier after a year. I have my commitment just about paid off and am damn glad I did it.

Specializes in Clinical Research, Outpt Women's Health.

How much money will you owe back? That would be the final determining factor to me.

You do not have to disclose that you bailed on a contract at the previous facility so what difference does it make.

And you don't think the previous employer is going to mention that little tidbit when they are contacted by a potential employer??

Specializes in Emergency/Cath Lab.
And you don't think the previous employer is going to mention that little tidbit when they are contacted by a potential employer??

Guess it didnt matter. I got the job and was given a new 2 year contract with the new hospital. I really doubt my manager knew the exact conditions of my hiring. Maybe I am naive about that, but I dont think they know the contract parts for all their employees. That is more HRs dealing.

Specializes in Pediatric/Adolescent, Med-Surg.
And you don't think the previous employer is going to mention that little tidbit when they are contacted by a potential employer??

Uh no first they are not allowed by law to give out information related to your work history without your consent. None of my employers since seem to know I broke a contract. Instead, they see references from past supervisors about my work ethic.

Uh no first they are not allowed by law to give out information related to your work history without your consent.

In every state I've lived and practiced in over the years, previous employers are free to say whatever they want as long as it is true, and the fine print over your signature at the bottom of the application form says that you are giving consent, by signing the application, for them to contact your previous employers. Many employers have a policy of not releasing more than hire/termination dates and eligibility for rehire, but, in my experience, there hasn't been anything legally preventing them from saying more.

I'm glad things worked out well for you and That Guy, but I don't think that means everyone can assume something like this could never hurt them later on.

Specializes in LTC Rehab Med/Surg.
Uh no first they are not allowed by law to give out information related to your work history without your consent. None of my employers since seem to know I broke a contract.

Instead, they see references from past supervisors about my work ethic.

I'm not picking on ChristineN. This sentence struck me as ironic, considering what the OP wants to do.

Breaking a contract says a lot about a work ethic.

I'll admit I come from a different time. I wouldn't break the contract. The hospital did nothing wrong. They were honest. There were no secrets. The OP went into the agreement with eyes open.

I recognize the realities of the world I live in. Things change. A handshake means nothing. A verbal agreement is empty air. Even a written contract can be broken if you're willing to pay the penalties.

I just wouldn't do it.

Specializes in Gerontology RN-BC and FNP MSN student.

I have not been in a similar situation.

If I had to give advice...it would be - finish your deal then gracefully bow out. You will have a good solid 2 years of experience. You will have kept your end of the contract. Learn from it....and move when the time is right. Start looking now for your next job. Make contacts and let your future prospects when you'll be available.

I hope it works out for you! Congratulations on finding a great job you wanted right out of school. Don't lose sight of how much at one time this job was a blessing to you.

I just looked in detail at the contract. I should've read it more carefully in the first place.

It basically says: "Hospital and employee recognize that the training program is costly for the hospital. The employee therefore agrees to reimburse the hospital for training costs as follows (list of time frames and corresponding amounts to be paid); employees who remain employed for more than two years full-time will be exempt from paying back training costs. The employee or the hospital can individually or mutually choose to terminate employment at any time for any reason, and that process is governed by usual HR policies." It goes on to list some exceptions (military service, illness) and describe how/when to make required payments. The payback amounts are relatively modest; it would be $1-$1.5K in my case.

I was certain the contract said that I intended or committed to staying two years, but it clearly does NOT say that. No one asked how long I'd stay in my interview, and I certainly didn't volunteer any information on the topic at that point or afterward. This financial agreement from the training program appears to be separate from my other HR stuff.

It does read like a lease (you buy a house or your job gets transferred mid-lease, you have to pay some extra money while your landlord finds another tenant - but everyone generally moves on without hard feelings, if you were a good tenant to begin with).

There are still the questions of my marketability as a barely-not-a-new-grad nurse, how strongly hiring managers feel about "job-hopping," whether my current manager is inclined to give me a good reference in the first place, etc. So, no guarantee that moving or finding a new job is possible. But I don't think leaving before two years will automatically lead to "do not rehire" or a lousy reference. And, I feel better about making the decision with the info in front of me. They'd obviously rather I stayed a long time, or they wouldn't bother making a contract, but I didn't promise to do so.

Lesson: carefully read contracts before you sign them!

Specializes in Gerontology RN-BC and FNP MSN student.

Best wishes to you. I wish hospitals paid more....I work LTC and make about 10 more dollars an hour than the local hospitals. It was a no - brainer to stay in LTC....until further notice and I finish my masters.

I'm glad you are able to move on. As nurses it is important to be happy outside of our worklife. I hope you get close to your family soon.

If your contract specifically says that either party can choose to terminate the relationship at any time, that's a different situation. Best wishes for your job-hunting --

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