Nursing Classroom Education: The big bang of powerpoint slavery - page 2

I have recently graduated and having a fair amount of time on my hands (jobless, thousands of applications filled out and resumes polished) I wouldn't mind giving an open, honest opinion of... Read More

  1. by   serenity1
    This was 100% my ADN program. BSN online was better as we had guidelines and read our own material. I was so disappointed when I began my nursing program. I asked my clinical instructor if this was normal or if I had a crappy instructor. She basically stated that this is the way it is. I felt like I could stay home and read the power points to myself. I agree with the other poster that stated you realize when you get a job how little the program really taught you about being a nurse. I am beginning my program for MSN in Nursing Education and I vow not to be an instructor that reads power points to my students.
  2. by   Altra
    While engaging speakers / lecturers / professors are worth their weight in gold ... welcome to adult learning, which is self-directed. YOU are there to discover your passion in the material ... not have it foisted upon you. That dry theory/pathophysiology will be the foundation of your nursing practice.

    Good luck in your studies.
  3. by   duckyluck111
    Thankfully we've only had one instructor who reads from the PowerPoints. But she _literally_ reads...verbatim, in a super monotone voice and seems really bored and annoyed that she even has to do that. Once, she even had us take turns reading each of the slides like 3rd graders.
  4. by   AndrewCraigRN
    Quote from Altra
    While engaging speakers / lecturers / professors are worth their weight in gold ... welcome to adult learning, which is self-directed. YOU are there to discover your passion in the material ... not have it foisted upon you. That dry theory/pathophysiology will be the foundation of your nursing practice.

    Good luck in your studies.
    I agree with you but at the same time I don't. I'm not asking to be spoon fed and I am responsible for learning. However, teaching, I believe, in the adult realm should be of higher caliber. Nursing has high standards as we know. I think my experience in my nursing program was mediocre (not near high).
    I'm all for dry theory. Give me the troponin-tropomyosin complex of the cardiac muscle or the carbonic acid-bicarbonate system. I love to hear it. Any material can be presented in a moderately interesting way. 4 hours of monotone, and verbatim. No thank you.
  5. by   AndrewCraigRN
    May I also say that I've heard primarily from nurse educators. I wonder why that is. Maybe some educators out there could explain to me the current state of nursing education.

    Is is hard to break the traditional mold of information delivery?

    How do educators learn to try new techniques? Must be individualized.
  6. by   Amnesty
    I feel for both sides of this topic. I'm currently in A&P I + Lab and Pharmacology, and I'm very lucky to have an anatomy professor who is very engaged in his subject. He knows it inside and out, he is always adding in little extras that help me remember some of the subject material, and he often asks if we have questions. The downfall to this is that a lot of students ask what I'd consider irrelevant questions, so we often get behind. We're two days behind now, and so as it stands, we're going to have to cover a chapter or two at the end all on our own.

    My pharmacology professor is the complete opposite. I get that pharmacology isn't that interesting to teach, but this woman shows up and reads the same information from the same packet the college has been handing out for years and years now. My sister took this class 3 years ago (has to retake it now because it's only valid for 1 year) and she literally knows all the answers because they're the exact same as they were when she took it before. She's a nice lady, the pharm prof, but I find myself seriously wishing I'd signed up to take that class online instead of doing it from 8-10 am every Tuesday!

    I think that the right teacher can take any subject and be interested in it enough to spread that interest to students who have a desire to be there and a fervor for learning, which I definitely do. I find some subjects (like how things physiologically function) more interesting than others (like learning a billion different bone features/surface markings), but I love the subject and I love being there. I wouldn't trade my anatomy professor for anyone else, regardless of the fact that I've been told other profs have easier exams and will let students retake tests and do extra credit and blah blah. No, thanks!
  7. by   dt70
    When I first went to college no one used PowerPoint . I think it existed , but I never heard of it, even with an IT major. The instructor read little from the book and a lot that existed no where else. No handouts, cell phones. You had to take very good notes or else.
    Decade later my classroom instructor read from book, word by word, and used power points often with many hand outs.
    At work one person creates a power point presentation and emails it around for changes until meeting where all discussion is directed to the PowerPoint.
    Electronic format captivates your attention better,
    but paper format reading resonates longer.

    Electronic format is great for test practice questions, but I always go for paper for textbooks even with the weight inconvenience .
  8. by   AndrewCraigRN
    Quote from dt70
    Electronic format captivates your attention better
    I agree as long as electronic methods are used properly. I wonder if the powerpoint issue is really rooted in technology boom. Nursing instructors are attempting to cater to the young people, like myself, who has grown up into the technological word. However, maybe, the instructor isn't versed enough to make presentations and lectures, as you say, captivating. There may be a generational issue here as well and technology being an issue. The more I think about this I want to hear an educators point of view. Or, maybe, someone to point me into the right direction to understand this better. There must resources and research about nursing education as well as nursing instructor difficulties.
  9. by   WannaBNursey
    I'm with you OP! If I wanted to just read the book and power points, I would stay home and just read the book and power points. Unfortunately attendance is mandatory in nursing school. I can't just sit in the comfort of my home at a desk and read my book on my own at my leisure instead of going to class. I love being read to, but that's usually before I'm ready to go to sleep. I don't understand how anybody thinks that reading the text and power points, which obviously haven't been reviewed prior to reading them to the class, is supposed to help anybody learn or ever successfully pass a test.
  10. by   passion4people
    It's good to know that others felt the same way in lectures. My mind would drift off shortly after lecture started. I guess I'm okay after all. Something needs changing within the method of teaching. Thanks for the post.
  11. by   HM-8404
    My first semester was exactly as you described. Starting with the second semester I enrolled as a hybrid student. I only show up on campus for tests, labs, etc. I do not attend any in class lectures because I can listen to the lecture online and follow the Power Points without having to drive all the way to class.

    One reason I think the instructors follow the Power Points so closely rather than teaching from their own experience is there is a real difference in NCLEX and "real world" nursing. They are trying to teach what will be on the NCLEX.
  12. by   sailornurse
    I taught for 9.5 years in a BSN program. Most of the textbooks if not all of them come with the PowerPoints. The idea if faculty are going to use them is that they edit them to fit the learning needs of the students. They were never meant to be used the way you all are describing. How sad! But then I know faculty that walked out of lecture if the students had not read and if no one had questions would walk out. I disagree with that. My job was to prepare a lecture. The university I worked at would give workshops so faculty could improve their teaching. One I attended was called, "DEATH BY POWERPOINT" which is why I never used powerpoints in lecture, nor movies either. I would make the powerpoints available online to students as some like to printout the handout to take notes. Sadly I don't think anyone evaluates if faculty is doing a good or bad job!!!
  13. by   JBMmom
    I had the same problem the first two semesters with wanting to die of boredom with the powerpoints. I'm a second career nurse, and my first experiences with college and grad school were before the powerpoint days. What I had to start doing was pretend that the powerpoints didn't exist, and I approached class as a time to listen and take notes. I pretended they weren't reading from a slide, and I wrote what I heard- making my own connections- physically- to link the notes together. When powerpoints were in front of my I was a completely inactive learner, making that one switch helped me. Then, my review time later was spent with my notes and the powerpoints to see how closely my notes had matched what they were trying to emphasize. I was also the annoying student in class that asked questions relatively frequently when I wanted clarification of something.

    I don't know about other fields but for me science and nursing were both the same- the academic learning is a basis for gaining employment, and then that's where I learned how to "be" that professional. (well, I'm still working on being a nurse- only three months into my first job)