New Grad RN-->No Jobs, Then what? - page 4
I have been reading through these threads and haven't seen an answer to this question. I know that it is tough to get a new grad RN position and some say they are still looking after a year post... Read More
1May 11, '10 by JasonGCAI graduated last June and have sent also too many applications to count. I did my ADN and have my RN license and now going back to get my BSN. If the job market is still terrible when I'm done I am seriously considering joining the Navy Nurse Corps, which is a worst case scenario. They have great benefits and would offer awesome training, but the idea of being their property for three years is scary. However, its that or I don't know what else.
0Jun 23, '10 by wannabenursevrWow! Where can you get PALS, ACLS, and BLS certification? Usually they offer it through the hospitals, but it sounds like you took the time on your own to do this. I am not sure there is a program here that is not associated with the hospitals in some way.
2Jun 25, '10 by BamasnIts funny but sad and depressing at the same time.... I just graduated last month and cant find a job. This post started in 2005 (I think) and things arent looking any better for RNs. I submit about 20 apps per day!!!!
I agree that the schools are really being greedy and OVERPRODUCING nurses. I havent recieved any calls yet but I have recieved emails about not being "qualified". How can I get experience when 9/10 jobs require experience?
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......ok I've vented now back to the job search. Oh yeah and the ACLS and PALS cost money that I dont have right now.
0Jun 25, '10 by ORRocksRNconsider the ACLS and PALs an investment. One you need to make in order to get the job to make the money to pay for them. charge them to your credit card if you have to. there are plenty of other people wiling to do this and that shows employers which grads are willing to work hard and make sacrifices for them. I know the job market sucks, but one month isn't that long. It takes HR that long just to get their office door open. Keep applying. You never know where your application will end up, and keep taking classes that add to your resume. Get another job in the meantime to live on. Good luck.
2Jul 4, '10 by whewWeWon1*** it doesn't matter where the foreign nurse is educated the us federal department of labor states it clearly the a citizen cannot be refused employment and a non-citizen be given the job, or continue to fill the position. check this on your computers by going into the site and search the subject.. takes about 2 minutes. please read on!!
the federal department of labor clearly states that; united states citizens take precedance and a non-citizen cannot be employed if a united states citizen is available for the job. but this is not the case! rn's that are united states citizens are not given precedance, united states citizen new grad rn's are not being given precedance either. here is a link that has a power point from the california institute of nursing and health care, that states on page 7 that 16% of the rn's in california are foreign nurses. whether they are on visa's or have green cards (e3's, etc. and/or have permanent residency - green card), these nurses should not be employed when a rn who is a us citizen needs a job! furthermore, the foreign nurses are getting employed without verifiable job references and proof of positive employment histories. the foreign nurses are gaining experience while employed here, which further disables us citizen new grad rn's from getting hired. us citizen nurses job history backgrounds are scrutinized and a foreign rn who doesn't even have verifiable (cannot prove the legitamacy) job references etc. can get the job instead. in california 16% = 64,000 foreign rn's (we have a total of approximately 400,000 rn's). i would say that number is greatly affecting us rn's from getting jobs!! this is just in california.. another point is that the cinhc estimated that in 2009, 5,768 california new grad rn's would get hired for jobs and 3,812 california new grad rn's would not get a job (page 23 of the power point). yet, the cinhc wants to continue to flood the market in california. with new grad rn's that will not get jobs. the reason for this is that they want to receive the annual $60,000,000 for the states budget for nursing education - because this pays for their nursing instructor salaries. here is the link - http://www.cinhc.org/wordpress/wp-co...ionsed0809.pdf
2Jul 4, '10 by whewWeWon1WHY aren't the UNIONS helping with this??? Something has to be done! I worked as a LVN for 5 years and just got my RN license, too. I have high GPA, commendations up the ying yang, years of volunteer work in the community, etc.. I cannot get a job, I do not get phone calls, all I get are emails that turn me down. This has to stop!!!! In California we have approximately 64,000 Foreign RN's taking our spots!! They continue to block us because they are said to have experience - well guess what - that doesn't matter!!! New grads have to be trained, and we cannot be turned down or refused employment and a NON-citizen have the job - regardless of the excuses that Hospitals make!!! Look at any VA job posting, they state right off the bat that the RN candidate MUST be a citizen of the USA, not a permanent resident, not on a visa, etc. The VA states that because it is FEDERAL LAW set forth by the Department of Labor. This Federal Labor Law applies to ALL employment whether it is private sector and government... SOMETHING must be done - I am not going to be unemployed and a NON CITIZEN has MY job... No way.. so since I don't have a RN job right now, putting the word out all over the place has become my job!! Nursing advocacy for work deprived USA Nurses. Permanent residents can gripe that they pay taxes, etc. etc. well that doesn't mean they can have a job over a USA Citizen, even though this violation of USA citizens rights is occuring in LARGE numbers. Oh and I have to repay my $50,000 loan for the RN program... I better get a job, cuz I am getting ******!
0Jul 4, '10 by himilayaneyes, MSN, APRNIt's hard to find a job in nursing as a new grad. I swear I applied to 50 places and was rejected by most of them as a new grad. However, I got a preceptorship on a tele unit. I think aiming for a preceptorship as a new grad rn is going to be your best bet. It'll require a contract, but in the end it's worth it to get the experience. Call your local hospitals and ask for new grad rn programs. Good luck.
9Jul 4, '10 by Freedom42I graduated in December 2008. Fifty-seven applications later, I started getting responses. Now that I've been working for 16 months, not a week goes by that I don't reflect on how lucky I am to have been hired, let alone hired for a job I really wanted. But it wasn't easy. I had to be very persistent.
First, I accepted a job on a skilled unit in a rehab center. Since I'd expected to be in an ICU training program -- one that went south with the economy -- I was crushed. It turned out to be great experience. Consider rehab. I had to work with IVs, PICCs, Foleys, all kinds of meds, peg tubes, complicated dressings.
Second, I looked for opportunities to network and gain other experience wherever I could. Rehab was fine, but I wanted ER! I told myself I'd stick with rehab for six months -- the minimum commitment expected by the institution -- then start looking. When my state put out a call for health care volunteers, I signed up immediately. I wound up working at flu shot clinics, and since the governor had waived liability for volunteers, organizers were happy to have a newbie. It made a nice entry for my resume, particularly since I worked with immigrant populations and children. It was also a great opportunity to get out there and network with experienced nurses.
Third, I contacted the hospital where I'd done my clinicals and asked if I could attend inservices and skills fairs. Again, another chance to pick up skills and meet nurses. One of them eventually tipped me off to the job I landed 10 months after getting my license. If this isn't an option for you, and you're worried about maintaining your skills, how about asking your alma mater for some lab time? Just getting in there and working with Sim will help you stay current and boost your spirits. You've probably got classmates who are in the same boat. Work together.
Right now I'd keep an eye out for summer camp nurse jobs -- they're still cropping up. You could also contact your local school department to ask if they need substitute RNs when someone calls out sick. (My state only employs RN-BSNs in schools, so they frequently call on substitutes.) No go? Contact the school nurse to see if s/he needs help with physicals, hearing and vision screenings, or even contacting parents to update information on file. It's experience, it's networking, and it looks good on a resume. Is there an organization in your area that works with migrant workers? They'd probably be thrilled to have someone with your skills to help with patient teaching, especially if you speak a second language.
I do think that certifications like ACLS help on your resume. But it's expensive to do that on your own. Most of the hospitals in my area specify that you are expected to earn that certification within one year of hire, and they'll pay for it. Not having it didn't hold me back.
Are there nursing organizations in your area that you can join? You never know who you'll meet. Always, always have a current copy of your resume in your car or your briefcase, and be ready to offer it. I often tell my husband how lucky I am; when I do, he kindly reminds me that luck is when opportunity rewards preparation. Make your own luck. Be prepared.
2Jul 4, '10 by tothepointeLVNQuote from whewWeWon1Your posting the same thing over and over again. Do you realize how bigoted this makes your sound? I hope you don't express these views in person and I certainly hope you don't do it in an interview. Just because your a "citizen" it doesn't mean anyone owes you a job. This is america the land of opportunity not the land of a sure thing.WHY aren't the UNIONS helping with this??? Something has to be done! I worked as a LVN for 5 years and just got my RN license, too. I have high GPA, commendations up the ying yang, years of volunteer work in the community, etc.. I cannot get a job, I do not get phone calls, all I get are emails that turn me down. This has to stop!!!! In California we have approximately 64,000 Foreign RN's taking our spots!! They continue to block us because they are said to have experience - well guess what - that doesn't matter!!! New grads have to be trained, and we cannot be turned down or refused employment and a NON-citizen have the job - regardless of the excuses that Hospitals make!!! Look at any VA job posting, they state right off the bat that the RN candidate MUST be a citizen of the USA, not a permanent resident, not on a visa, etc. The VA states that because it is FEDERAL LAW set forth by the Department of Labor. This Federal Labor Law applies to ALL employment whether it is private sector and government... SOMETHING must be done - I am not going to be unemployed and a NON CITIZEN has MY job... No way.. so since I don't have a RN job right now, putting the word out all over the place has become my job!! Nursing advocacy for work deprived USA Nurses. Permanent residents can gripe that they pay taxes, etc. etc. well that doesn't mean they can have a job over a USA Citizen, even though this violation of USA citizens rights is occuring in LARGE numbers. Oh and I have to repay my $50,000 loan for the RN program... I better get a job, cuz I am getting ******!
Your stats sound good and by all means you should have a job by now but if you are in person the way you are coming across online then your not sounding like a good potential employee and coworker. R
5Jul 5, '10 by StrawberryBananatothepoint-
I think they're just upset. We live in the USA. We are citizens. Yet we watch foreigners replace us DAILY in the workplace.
What country do you know of that will hire us over their own citizens? Let us know and perhaps we can all move there...because the USA is going down the drain. It is a fact that foreigners have been hired, repeatedly, before qualified citizens. Those who aren't angry about this are only allowing our country to be pushed further down the drain.
Let's face the music. I'm not a racist. I'm not a bigot. I'm an angry tax-paying citizen that is tired of watching MY country (that I LOVE) go down the drain. I'm tired of watching my fellow Americans struggle to find jobs that are filled with foreigners...but I'm mostly tired of close minded people that call me a racist or bigot because of that.
3Jul 5, '10 by tothepointeLVNThe main point I am disagreeing is the argument that citizens should be preferred over permanent residents.
Should we be importing foreign trained workers of any kind when we have domestically trained workers from any industry no of course not
What I am objecting to is the sentiment that seems to have cropped up in the last few years trying to differentiate between those born here and those not. I have lived here all of my adult life (10+ years) I am US educated. I am eligible to be a citizen if I wish I just have to file the paperwork and spend the thousands it will cost to file. I don't like being told I'm suddenly a evil foreigner when this is my home too.
6Jul 5, '10 by StrawberryBananaI don't think you're an evil foreigner and I don't have anything against foreigners. I understand where you are coming from.
My main idea is: Our economy is in absolute shambles. We should take care of our citizens first. We *should* favor U.S. graduates over foreign graduates. No more exporting and importing....too many people are jobless and it's silly.