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- Jul 9, '02 by AHRNThis was one of features on TV news tonight in Little Rock, AR. I'll attempt a cut and paste the feature.
Nursing Shortage in Arkansas Reaching Critical Stage
Posted - July 08, 2002 4:51pm Reporter: Kerri Jackson Posted By: Tony Tabor
New Rules May Mean Better Patient Care at Hospitals
Statewide - The nursing shortage in Arkansas reaching a critical stage. By the year 2010, it will take at least 30,000 new nurses entering the medical field in Arkansas to fix the problem. But at the same time, other states are recruiting Arkansas nurses with better pay and bonuses. Monday the Legislative Nursing Commission met to find some solutions. Kerri Jackson has more on what the committee recommends.
They are recommending both short-term and long-term solutions. They say the nursing shortage is complex problem with no simple solution. But most require more money.
They say if the problem is not addressed, patients will have problems from a harder time scheduling elective surgery, to more emergency room diversions because there are not enough nurses to take care of them. In the short-term, the committee recommends offering higher salaries to nurses and incentive programs to keep Arkansas nurses in the state and lure nurses from other states. Long-term, more people have to go to nursing school. Which means more people have to become nursing teachers. Right now, qualified professors have to take a pay cut to become an educator. That's one area many feel where the legislature can have direct influence.
(Barbara Williams/UCA Nursing Dept. Chair) "I think the legislators have got to look at the salary of the nursing faculty. There's got to be something to encourage the schools, either an incentive to encourage the colleges and universities to raise the salaries. Something's got to be done in that area."
(Sen. Brenda Gullet/(D) Pine Bluff) "We feel that a lot of communities do not realize what impact this is going to have on their local hospital."
The committee is putting together a final report to give to the full legislature this fall.
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Edited post for correct url and pertinent topic. KarenLast edit by NRSKarenRN on Jul 9, '02
- <WE DO NOT HAVE A SHORTAGE HERE. In fact there is a weekly threat of layoffs>
do you mean theres no shortage of bedside nurses at your hospital or there is no shortage of bedside nurses in your state?
The nurses I was referring to had said they had no shortages in their states. Hard to believe when all the documented reports show that EVERY state is currently experiencing a shortage of nurses who are willing to work at the bedside.
Incidentally, if a hospital has to rely on outside agency to staff its pt care units then it does have a staffing problem.
- <the committee recommends offering higher salaries to nurses and incentive programs to keep Arkansas nurses in the state and lure nurses from other states. Long-term, more people have to go to nursing school. Which means more people have to become nursing teachers. Right now, qualified professors have to take a pay cut to become an educator. That's one area many feel where the legislature can have direct influence.......... (Barbara Williams/UCA Nursing Dept. Chair) "I think the legislators have got to look at the salary of the nursing faculty. There's got to be something to encourage the schools, either an incentive to encourage the colleges and universities to raise the salaries. Something's got to be done in that area........The committee is putting together a final report to give to the full legislature this fall. ">
So the Arkansas state legislature is going to be looking at establishing laws to help solve the shortage of bedside nurses & not a word is there about fixing the WORKING CONDITIONS you all are describing. What exactly are the recruitment/retention incentives that they will be considering? Are they hearing only from those nursing executives who dont think there are real problems at the besides & its all about getting new nursing students & paying professors better (although they do need to do that too)? Hopefully staff nurses in the trenches in that state will give those legislators an earful.
- Jul 9, '02 by live4todayHi jt...I hear you make big nursing bucks where you work, so I have tracked you down to ask you what state you live in and where you work that pays nurses top dollar for their expertise? Feel free to send me a "PM" so as to keep your place of employment top secret...must do that around here since we have a "lurker" without a life ready to report whatever she thinks is not kosherly told. Thanks!
- Jul 9, '02 by nurseykimHey Ya'll. Lived & worked in Mississippi. DON's treat you like dirt. Up to 9-10 pts per nurse. Begging & taking GNs fresh from school, turning them loose as soon as 4-6weeks. Been there, done that. North MS schedules 2 on, 2off, q other weekend (they call it built-in OT). Pay sucks, too. DONs & Mgrs call round the clock begging you to work OT, even on other units (thand God for caller ID). Same old stuff, people trying to make it sound good, when they don't even work the floors.
- <I have tracked you down to ask you what state you live in and where you work that pays nurses top dollar for their expertise?Feel free to send me a "PM" so as to keep your place of employment top secret...must do that around here since we have a "lurker" without a life ready to report whatever she thinks is not kosherly told>
Oh my!!!!! What did I miss???
Anyway, its no big secret where I live. If the lurkers just look to the left of the page & under my name, they can figure out what state it is by reading the city I listed as my location.
And for details of our salaries & other compensations like past experience pay, they can read these kosher press releases:
Nurses at Presbyterian Approve Breakthrough Contract
Westchester Med RNs approve landmark contract
New Saint Vincents Contract Sets the Pace
Mount Sinai nurses approve new contract
Staten Island University Hospital Nurses Approve New Contract
Abolishes mandatory overtime & guarantees safe staffing levels
St. Catherine’s RNs approve contract that limits overtime and ensures safe staffing http://www.nysna.org/NEWS/PRESS/pr2002/pr030902.htm
Samaritan Nurses Approve New Contract http://www.nysna.org/NEWS/PRESS/PR2001/PR092001.HTMLast edit by -jt on Jul 9, '02
- Jul 9, '02 by biscuit_007Lafayette Louisiana here and we have a definate shortage here. Our managers cannot hire people because there are no applicants to be had. We are losing tons of people to agency and traveling and from what i can tell there has been zero attempt to retain nurses. Heck when I let my manager know of my intention to move on to greener pastures I was never even asked to stay.
3 more weeks left in this state and then on to the great state of texas!!!!!!!
- Jul 9, '02 by NRSKarenRNCheerfuldoer:
If you don't want to live in NY, can come to Philly burb. Can find nice homes around $120,000 with quality Blue Ribbon schools.
Nurses at Crozer ratify contract---Look what they $$$ won
......With an average base salary of $54,000, Crozer nurses had been seeking a limit to the number of patients assigned to them per shift. The union proposed reducing to 5-to-1 the ratio of patients to nurses in medical and surgical units and 2-to-1 in critical care.
Wages for nurses with one year of experience begin at $25 per hour and increase to $37.54 per hour for nurses at the top of the wage scale. In two years, the range will be $27.22 to $41.38 per hour.......Last edit by NRSKarenRN on Jul 9, '02
- Jul 9, '02 by kewlnurseJT I'm in the same state as you, just on the "other" coast. Didn't say there wasn't a shortage in the rest of the state. Just no shortage here. Why do people work for such low wages? People , for reasons unbeknownst to me are very reluctant to leave this hell hole. I am trappped here because my wife won't move. Don't know why othres stay. Residents that are here for school say they are leaving the day after they Graduate. People who do leave only come back for one reason, their elder family members are sick and they need to be with them. Knowbody move to here because they want too, 'cept maybe some foreigners who don't know better
- Jul 9, '02 by eltripHonest & for real, ya'll, whoever those folks were who claimed that there isn't a nursing shortage was telling a BIG story (a story is the southern term for a lie)
In my 8 years as a nurse, I've never seen a time when nurses weren't in high demand! As for the shortage, My sister-in-law & I saw it coming 4 years ago. I get postcards from hospitals in Nashville & from agencies frequently. We have a hospital in my area that offers $4,000 sign-on bonuses for their non-ICU staff & $5,000 for their ICU staff.
One of the reasons I left the ICU position I held in an area hospital was mandatory OT...it was built into the schedule. It is a common practice in my part of Tennessee. Part of why I'm not floor nursing on a full-time basis as well.
No matter what those administrators said, there is a shortage.