Obamacare: are you for it, against it, or unsure? - page 2

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I am just curious how the nurses on here feel about it. What is your vote? Do you think obamacare will be good or bad for our country? How will it affect nurses?... Read More


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    I'm for it as long as we follow a model that works in other countries that have socialized healthcare. Question for Jewels... you do know that UK (and pretty much every modern nation) has socialized healthcare too right? So by hypothetically moving there is it because their system is better or you didn't know it was socialized?
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    Quote from chaka_1709
    I'm for it as long as we follow a model that works in other countries that have socialized healthcare. Question for Jewels... you do know that UK (and pretty much every modern nation) has socialized healthcare too right? So by hypothetically moving there is it because their system is better or you didn't know it was socialized?
    The NHS is faaaar from perfect, terrible system and full of holes. Still better than the largely privatized system of America though.
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    Totally 100% against anything that taxes, or threatens Americans with jail if they don't wish to spend their hard-earned money on something that they don't agree with, believe in, or want. We live in a free society for a reason. If you want socialism or communism, go somewhere else. I prefer what little bit of freedom I have left.

    I also do not believe that the IRS, a government entity that currently can not run itself, should be monitoring whether or not people have insurance. They already have too much un-constitutionalized power as it is.

    While I love being a nurse, I did not become a nurse to make $10 an hour, which is what is estimated may happen if this law is allowed to go through.

    I do not believe that a 25 year old grown man or woman should be able to hang on mom and dad's apron strings for health insurance either. When I turned 18, I had a full time job with full benefits, and I believe that's how it should be- when you're 18, you're an adult and should be treated as such. I do not have much hope for the future of young people who have been molly-coddled and have no personal accountability or responsibility these days and it sickens me.

    I am against anything that tells religious organizations in this country that they have to go against their faith and beliefs and bow down to what the government says, when we are given the right to worship and practice that worship as we please.

    I am against this law because the members of our congress, and many big buddies of the Obama administration have been given "get out of jail free" passes on having to follow this law. If it's "good enough" for the American people, why is it not good enough for them? That's completely unacceptable.

    I could go on and on and on, but you get the picture. I am still shocked that Supreme Court let it stand. I felt very betrayed as an American citizen that day, as I was sure it would be declared unconstitutional.
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    Quote from chaka_1709
    I'm for it as long as we follow a model that works in other countries that have socialized healthcare. Question for Jewels... you do know that UK (and pretty much every modern nation) has socialized healthcare too right? So by hypothetically moving there is it because their system is better or you didn't know it was socialized?
    No, I was aware it was socialized healthcare. But I have looked into nursing over there, and the conditions seem to be better. Nurses still make a living wage and can support their families. I don't know why that is, if its because the system has been in place longer so the kinks have been worked out. If there is less corruption over there (I doubt this is the reason, but its possible). If there is less abuse of the system. I honestly have no clue why. But either way, I named the UK off the top of my head, I have not really started seriously looking at other options for work. I suppose I am just hoping that the ACA gets overturned. Probably just wishful thinking...
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    Not that it matters anymore, but I am against it. I could do the food is a right, housing is a right, nice clothes are a right, etc. Heck even cell phones/land lines are a right these days. Why work?
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    ... are you for or against " corporations are people" ruling from the right-wing nuts too ...
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    So its either "corporations are people" or entitlement for everyone. Hmm, I don't want to live on this planet anymore...
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    First some basics pinciples. All men are created equal does not mean equal entitlement. At the moment of conception, DNA is different. Pre and post natal care are different. And at birth, the environment and nurturing your receive are different. What is the same is everyone has the same opportunities over time to become all you can be. That includes achieving the ability to afford the type and quality of healthcare you want. If you want free clinics, pay as you go, fee for service, or pay first then service, you have a free well to make your choices. But don't take healthcare and put everyone in the pot, stir it, and say you have a homogeneous mixture. You and I were different conception and unless you are my clone, we are definitely different throughout life. Quality healthcare is service that meets one's expectations, at a fair price, and in a timely manner. However, your expectations may or may not be the same as mine; and for that reason alone, Obamacare for all is bad. Obamacare takes the entire poplulation/divides it by the number of medical practicioners and providers, and the result is watered-down medicine for all. No thank you. I worked for what I get today; and do not intend to see it become less.
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    There's a new rule... name your state that you were raised in, and grade level.
    Last edit by laborer on Nov 5, '12
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    Quote from SweettartRN
    Totally 100% against anything that taxes, or threatens Americans with jail if they don't wish to spend their hard-earned money on something that they don't agree with, believe in, or want. We live in a free society for a reason. If you want socialism or communism, go somewhere else. I prefer what little bit of freedom I have left.

    I also do not believe that the IRS, a government entity that currently can not run itself, should be monitoring whether or not people have insurance. They already have too much un-constitutionalized power as it is.

    While I love being a nurse, I did not become a nurse to make $10 an hour, which is what is estimated may happen if this law is allowed to go through.

    I do not believe that a 25 year old grown man or woman should be able to hang on mom and dad's apron strings for health insurance either. When I turned 18, I had a full time job with full benefits, and I believe that's how it should be- when you're 18, you're an adult and should be treated as such. I do not have much hope for the future of young people who have been molly-coddled and have no personal accountability or responsibility these days and it sickens me.

    I am against anything that tells religious organizations in this country that they have to go against their faith and beliefs and bow down to what the government says, when we are given the right to worship and practice that worship as we please.

    I am against this law because the members of our congress, and many big buddies of the Obama administration have been given "get out of jail free" passes on having to follow this law. If it's "good enough" for the American people, why is it not good enough for them? That's completely unacceptable.

    I could go on and on and on, but you get the picture. I am still shocked that Supreme Court let it stand. I felt very betrayed as an American citizen that day, as I was sure it would be declared unconstitutional.


    Well said!!!!!! And I couldn't agree with you more


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