Obamacare Survives, Supreme Court Rescues ‘Big Health’ - page 4

obamacare survives, supreme court rescues ‘big health’ just a quick comment on the supreme court’s decision to uphold the constitutionality of the obama healthcare legislation, i.e. that the single mandate stands. i... Read More

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    What I meant was how can there be more jobs if say the reimbursement rate to providors is extrememly low? Or what I see is that here comes another management position while the floor continues to struggle.

    Badgercare has copays currently. I've had pts with very low copays but still don't have the cash to pay the copay to be seen. When questioned, it continues to come down to feeding their children or paying the copay to be seen. I guess that just because you have insurance, it doesn't necessarily mean you can afford to use it. If you don't have it, and get fined, how can you pay the fine if you don't have the money? I will bet my paycheck my facility will not add on additional RN's to staff the floor. Just my two cents though.

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    I've spoken to several Canadians who've left Canada to seek medical attention..."from the USA broken system" They are all in horror in seeing what is happening here. Socialized medicine does not work.
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    I fixed link to view actual Supreme Court opinion.
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    Indeed, the middle class is struggling and fighting against extinction. What they cannot afford is health insurance outside of this provision or a health encounter in our expensive system without insurance. Doing nothing is not a good plan for our country...this reform is a start in a very needed reform of our health system.It is paramount to keep the discussion going. This is not a cure for a system under thumb of the insurance giants, but the catalyst for change. When many voices come to the table, the issue is teuley
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    Does anybody besides me get tired of the government telling us what to do?
    What to buy. Where to eat. What to eat. What to drive.
    The government can now corral me into the health care system they choose. I'm about to get funnelled like a cow at an auction barn.
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    I worry that my job will be in jeopardy when this goes into full swing, because they are gonna have to cut corners somewhere to recoup losses in reimbursement and they always start with nursing.

    I don't think the government should be in my pocket sucking more money from it, or in my house telling me how to live and what I need to buy.

    I don't think the working class should carry the weight of the burden that is Obamacare, but it is what it is. We'll all be the ones shouldering it so that everyone can have free healthcare while we actually work for it.

    I know of several friends (who live in Canada) who have had medical problems that they were put on a waiting list for. 6 months before they could be seen because the doctor was so booked. Then, if they needed surgery, another 3-6 months before they could get THAT taken care of. One lady I know has a daughter with special needs and was told her daughter had a genetic abnormality, so she didn't qualify to have her scoliosis repaired. If she wanted to appeal it, go ahead--that would take 8 months, then on to the surgical waiting list which she would be at the very bottom of because other people were more "deserving." This is the direction we are heading. Child with scoliosis who can hardly walk from it, but she is a "defective" so she can do without.

    I am so looking foward to this "free" healthcare that I will pay out the nose for so that I can get poopier and less than timely medical care. Can't wait.
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    I don't think this is the answer but I know that keeping on the way we have been in our medical system is not the solution.
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    This seems to have turned into a Canada v/s USA thread concerning healthcare. Here is a link from the AARP with 5 myths that are addressed. I found it interesting in comparison to all the horror stories people spread.
    I have never lived outside the USA, but I have travelled extensively and have learned quite a bit about other healthcare system models. All in all I think the main difference between our system and "socialized" medicine, is an exphasis on preventative medicine. Other countries spend more money on prevention, and people are expected to attempt to mitigate their healthcare costs. Here, people expect to run to the ER for every little runny nose, headache, stomach ache, etc... When I was training in the ER I was shocked at the trivial things people came to the ER for. I am often told this is because people don't have insurance, so they can't go to a doctor's office, so they come to the ER instead. But I see many of these people do have coverage. They will go to a doctor and get a prescription for a antibiotic. If they are still experiencing some minor discomfort 2 days later they will go to the ER wanting a pill to alleviate their discomfort. Or if their child wakes up at 2 am with a runny nose they will bring them into the ER. With a single payer system I believe people will have to adjust their thinking and be more proactive instead of reactive with their health.
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    My husband is from the UK and he hates the National Healthcare. He says you wait..and you wait..and then you wait somemore. He loves it here and the fact that when your MD tells you to go to a specilist you can Usually get an appt within a few weeks. He says it sometimes takes a year or more to see one in the UK.

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    I don't agree. I am from Europe, lived there most of my life and decided to get my nursing degree in the States. I will never go back to their nationalized health care. What you read is not real, just bunch of the words to make them feel better about themselves. Ordinary people just suffer there.

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