Healthcare is NOT a basic human right. - page 49

If one were to read the Constitution one would realize that the Constitution does not grant anyone freedoms, liberties, or rights. The Constitution only protects freedoms, liberties, and rights from... Read More

  1. Visit  bahhaha profile page
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    Oh and everyone must pay something for medications, even if it is only $3, for example. Except for the truly disabled.
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  3. Visit  mlbluvr profile page
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    For a nurse, a person that makes a LIVING off people with health insurance, while at the SAME time there are tens of THOUSANDS of nurses that cannot find work, to rag against health care as a human right? Like I've said before, and like what is fact- this is just more evidence that nursing eats its own young, and lacks the conviction, the influence, and the political power of professional organizations such as law and medicine, and why nursing is still considered 'declasse'. Like the hired help. Aside from the humanitarian (lacking) of this post? What message does a NURSE send to the world, stating that access to health care is a PRIVILEGE? Eegads.
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  4. Visit  mlbluvr profile page
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    In fact- this post is about as obscene and hypocritical as a defense lawyer claiming that indigent people ought not be entitled to the services of a public defender. Amazing. But not suprising.
  5. Visit  shermrn profile page
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    Quote from marcopollo
    Revolution = freedom from the right mind set ...
    What exactly is the "right" mindset and what do you mean by freedom ? Don't you realize that your comment about making the rich pigs pay, or else, suggests just the opposite of freedom? Sounds like a Charles Manson type statement to me, he does have access to healthcare though.
    Last edit by shermrn on Jul 24, '13 : Reason: blah blah blah
  6. Visit  anothergrumpyoldRN profile page
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    Quote from shermrn
    What exactly is the "right" mindset and what do you mean by freedom ? Don't you realize that your comment about making the rich pigs pay, or else, suggests just the opposite of freedom? Sounds like a Charles Manson type statement to me, he does have access to healthcare though.
    This is a thread about health care and whether or not it is a "right".
    Currently the most taxed group in this country are those who can least afford it...the working classes. All the while their $$ are being used to subsidize big business and the interests of our political elite while they tell us that we cannot afford social programs designed specifically for US.
    The working classes are in need of affordable health care access.
    The wealthiest and best off in the country seem to be telling us that this great country cannot afford that...WE THINK WE CAN.
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  7. Visit  amygarside profile page
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    yes! we can as long as those people in the higher ranks wont put our taxes in their pockets..
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    Quote from anothergrumpyoldRN
    Currently the most taxed group in this country are those who can least afford it...the working classes.
    The working classes are not the ones who pay the most taxes in this country. How about a little honesty in this debate?

    On the subject of being honest, I think we need to acknowledge the fact that the vast majority of Americans, rich and poor, are responsible for the horrible economic condition of this country. For too many years we have failed to hold politicians accountable and have elected whoever the media tells us to without doing any real research. Can we all agree that we should push for a return to the constitutional principles this country was founded on ? Surely the answer to the economic problems of this country, healthcare included, can be found within the framework of the constitution. Does anyone agree with this?

    I think we need to move toward a more intelligent discussion of the issue rather than keep throwing opinions back and forth. I am guilty of conducting myself poorly through some of this discussion, it's an emotionaly charged issue. Lets take emotion out of the equation, throw some ideas together and look at solutions. Also can we honestly and accurately compare our healthcare system to that of other countries? On some measures we excell, on others we fail. Is there one standard upon which we can honestly judge the ups and downs of our current system. How about a list of pros and cons to start with.

    I'm trying to move the discussion forward, I regret my previous emotionally charged rants in this and other healthcare threads and also wish to appologies to tewdles for my behavior.

    Lets move forward and discuss some real solutions.
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    Except I didn't say they paid the most taxes...I said they are the most taxed and can least afford it.
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    Quote from anothergrumpyoldRN
    Except I didn't say they paid the most taxes...I said they are the most taxed and can least afford it.
    Yes, I see, that crossed my mind that that's what you meant.
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    We are to blame because we have voted in the legislators who have been and are continuing to fleece us in the name of capitalism and balanced budgets. Beyond our votes...THEY are the culprits.
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    Quote from anothergrumpyoldRN
    We are to blame because we have voted in the legislators who have been and are continuing to fleece us in the name of capitalism and balanced budgets. Beyond our votes...THEY are the culprits.
    true but their deceptions are too powerful for most of us to notice though..
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    Quote from amygarside

    true but their deceptions are too powerful for most of us to notice though..
    I beg to differ...when you have those "gerrymandering" districts, making them harder to vote out as well as get our voices heard, you still know. I live in a blue learning state, with metro areas predominately blue, but because of gerrymandering, you have more conservative representatives, so there is a constant issue of a imbalance.
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