Healthcare is NOT a basic human right.

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If one were to read the Constitution one would realize that the Constitution does not grant anyone freedoms, liberties, or rights. The Constitution only protects freedoms, liberties, and rights from transgressions on part of the government. A right is something that is inherent to the individual, comes from that individual, and is maintained by the individual. You are born with such rights like the right to speak freely, the only thing that can be done to that right is to have it infringed. No one can grant a right to another, only limit or impede the exercise of that right.

Healthcare is a human invention that does not exist in the natural environment. Only through the work of others and through the taking of resources from one party and giving to another does healthcare exist. You cannot force someone to give effort and resources to another and call that a right. In the absence of human intervention the individual would live their lives and succumb to the natural forces which would act upon their bodies.

Do I think we should provide preventative care and basic primary care? Sure. Do I think that we can? Maybe. Do I think that healthcare is a basic human right? Absolutely not.

Specializes in CRNA, Finally retired.

What, exactly, should the government do about it? And how much health care should everyone get? Personally, I have no faith in a group of legislators making a plan for dinner. I'll take THEIR health care anytime they're willing to give it up to me. Having this merry band of mostly nimcompoops run a rational health care system is asking far too much - actually I think the brightest people in the kingdom could't do it. Designing the ACA in the middle) of the night and having it signed without being read (do you think anyone actually read the whole bill? I think not0 was an effrontery. We need thousands of pilot programs to be completed to figure out what the actual consequences of good intentions actually are. Could you really not see it coming that businesses were going to shrink their employees work weeks so that they would not have to provide coverage? So now middle class people will have no health care coverage along with smaller paychecks - brilliant! It's WAY to complicated for any one person, entity or government to have the hubris to come up with a "plan. It will take decades of doing the studies, making the tweaks required and getting the public to accept that the old American order of health care is over. How much money do we want to dedicate to futile care while the elderly get

almost nothing in LTC? WE ALL have to figure this very hard stuff out. Of course, I'm nursing for 41 years and know that, in the end, money dictates ethics and that's not always a bad thing.

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
What, exactly, should the government do about it? And how much health care should everyone get? Personally, I have no faith in a group of legislators making a plan for dinner. I'll take THEIR health care anytime they're willing to give it up to me. Having this merry band of mostly nimcompoops run a rational health care system is asking far too much - actually I think the brightest people in the kingdom could't do it. Designing the ACA in the middle) of the night and having it signed without being read (do you think anyone actually read the whole bill? I think not0 was an effrontery. We need thousands of pilot programs to be completed to figure out what the actual consequences of good intentions actually are. Could you really not see it coming that businesses were going to shrink their employees work weeks so that they would not have to provide coverage? So now middle class people will have no health care coverage along with smaller paychecks - brilliant! It's WAY to complicated for any one person, entity or government to have the hubris to come up with a "plan. It will take decades of doing the studies, making the tweaks required and getting the public to accept that the old American order of health care is over. How much money do we want to dedicate to futile care while the elderly get

almost nothing in LTC? WE ALL have to figure this very hard stuff out. Of course, I'm nursing for 41 years and know that, in the end, money dictates ethics and that's not always a bad thing.

^THIS...I'll take THEIR insurance too...and all the while let the troops-US nurses, help tweak the system. :yes:

Specializes in ICU, BURNS, TRAUMA, TRANSPORT, HH.

We don't have a right to health care anymore than we have a right to fire protection, police, electricity, running water, or flush toilets. Let's not even begin to discuss our right to access the internet or cell phone coverage. There is no right to radio, television, newspapers, or books.

What's the beef, exactly?

if we have no right to anything then its like prison.hehe

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
if we have no right to anything then its like prison.hehe

Last time I checked, I was a free woman. :)

Specializes in ICU, BURNS, TRAUMA, TRANSPORT, HH.
Last time I checked, I was a free woman. :)

As free as your state legislators allow you to be...

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.

As free as your state legislators allow you to be...

...and as free as the federal government wants me to be...and it's pretty free, and comfortable for me and many of us :yes:

Specializes in ICU, BURNS, TRAUMA, TRANSPORT, HH.

In my opinion, state government can be just as intrusive and regulatory in our personal lives as the federal government, perhaps more.

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.

Not intrusive to me...especially when private companies are usually ones that are riding in the backs of the people more than the government.

I truly believe in "WE THE PEOPLE"...WE are the government...still trying to form a more "perfect" union...I also believe in really removing barriers to make it accessible, regardless of income, culture, disability, personality issues, whatever. :)

Specializes in LTC, Memory loss, PDN.

my first thought was healthcare is not a basic human right, because it is a service

provided to an individual by others, however,

article 25 of the universal declaration of human rights says it is

Instead of dictating who pays for what, it should have been addressed why we pay so damn much... Starting with we must be about to negotiate prices with Big Pharma and medical device companies.

Oh and everyone must pay something for medications, even if it is only $3, for example. Except for the truly disabled.

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