Concealed Carry...as a nurse? - page 17

by mcknis

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With the current news over gun control and gun rights legislation being pushed through Congress as a result of the tragedies of Aurora, CO, Newtown, CT and the others like them, the thought of concealed carry among healthcare... Read More


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    Statistics show that here in Alaska we have a gun in just about every household, our rate is something like 2.4 deaths per 100,000 people. Do you want to know why we don't have many deaths compared to any other state? Because everyone knows that there is a gun behind just about every door in every house in Alaska. Plain and simple, you wouldn't break into a random house here without a 99% chance of getting shot.
    Banning guns is not the issue. The issue is that there are some people that shouldn't own guns, and for your information, you also do not need a conceal carry permit here in Alaska.
    Alaska is different than any other state, we all will fight to keep our guns, it is a way of life for many of us. Just because a few crazies decide to shoot people on an everyday basis in the lower 48, does not mean that Alaska will roll over on its back and let guns be striped from our hands. We are proud of our way of life, and our state.
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    Quote from AlaskaHopeful
    Statistics show that here in Alaska we have a gun in just about every household, our rate is something like 2.4 deaths per 100,000 people. Do you want to know why we don't have many deaths compared to any other state?Because everyone knows that there is a gun behind just about every door in every house in Alaska. Plain and simple, you wouldn't break into a random house here without a 99% chance of getting shot.
    Banning guns is not the issue. The issue is that there are some people that shouldn't own guns, and for your information, you also do not need a conceal carry permit here in Alaska.
    Alaska is different than any other state, we all will fight to keep our guns, it is a way of life for many of us. Just because a few crazies decide to shoot people on an everyday basis in the lower 48, does not mean that Alaska will roll over on its back and let guns be striped from our hands. We are proud of our way of life, and our state.
    Alaska actually has the most firearms deaths per 100,000 of any state, only D.C. has a higher rate of firearm deaths.
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    Geez, according to that chart at StateMaster.com, NY is already SAFE. The only things worse than statistics are incomplete statistics (i.e., lies, damned lies, and statistics).

    Note: Any web site that has a "factoid" at the top of its page prompts some deeper thought, no?

    Oh, well... it's on the Internet, so it must be true.

    Seriously, too many people follow the news (and comment) media and choose sides among them as though they were rooting for favorite sports teams, while not following the simple and effective advice of Mr. Thomas J. Watson... "THINK".
    Last edit by Overland1 on Feb 11, '13 : Reason: SpellCzech
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    Quote from MunoRN
    Alaska actually has the most firearms deaths per 100,000 of any state, only D.C. has a higher rate of firearm deaths.
    In 2011, there were 29 reported homicides in Alaska, vs. 108 in Washington, DC.

    FBI — Table 4

    The FBI / UCR data in this table does not include self-inflicted gun-related deaths, but does provide additional information.
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    DC, which has a high crime rate why? They have a tough gun restriction. Chicago, high crime rate and children dying daily why? Toughest gun restriction in the US. .

    As to the topic, I'd be fine with concealed carry as I already do so outside of work.
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    Quote from Altra
    In 2011, there were 29 reported homicides in Alaska, vs. 108 in Washington, DC.

    FBI €” Table 4

    The FBI / UCR data in this table does not include self-inflicted gun-related deaths, but does provide additional information.
    You did look at the massive population differences between Alaska and DC, right?
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    Quote from twinmommy+2
    DC, which has a high crime rate why? They have a tough gun restriction. Chicago, high crime rate and children dying daily why? Toughest gun restriction in the US. .

    As to the topic, I'd be fine with concealed carry as I already do so outside of work.
    This tired argument...as usual people tend to not truly understand what causes crime in the first place. Most notably poverty...that is another discussion. But...to once and for all dispel this ludicrous argument that the reason all this gun violence happens in places with tougher restrictions is a falsehood...as per your(common) premise...if more people in these areas had weapons on their person, less crime would occur...wrong! Their is already plenty of people in these areas that have weapons...gangs etc...and most of the crime is gang/drug/poverty related...it takes the scared-white guy-suburban-gated community aspect out of this equation so the argument does not work! I am happy that you and others get to feel safer carrying a gun...that also dispels your argument...especially if it is concealed carry...do you really think that a criminal intent on doing harm is going to ask if you are carrying a weapon? How many times have any of you ever actually used a weapon in self defense outside of your normal everyday paranoid fears? And for that matter unless you venture into one of these inner cities to get involved in the drug/poverty/gang phenomenon, how can you even connect that to your argument? Also I am sure you will counter by saying that criminals choose these "no-gun" zones because they know there will be less weapons...also ridiculous with the amount of people that still carry regardless of the signage and the indisputable fact that inner city gang on gang violence is a reality that still is not looked at in this country...nor are the underlying causes of the educational gap and poverty. The two arguments do not jive...sad that each day in this country some mother is losing her child in the city yet it's never discussed by the nra etc...but as soon as we have a mass attack it's all over the news...tell that to the thousands upon thousands of people immersed in poverty that lose their loved ones every day...all over this country...gun-free zone or not!
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    Quote from dirtyhippiegirl
    You did look at the massive population differences between Alaska and DC, right?
    Well the comparison is between Alaska as a state, and Washington DC specifically, unless I misunderstood...
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    Inner city gang violence? I live in one of those "scared white guy gated communities" and trust me we have violent gang problems in the suburbs as well, and infact sometimes even higher crime rates than inner city areas. The old idea of gang violence being in inner cities only is way long gone.
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    Quote from classicdame
    our facility has a policy against carrrying weapons, regardless of whether or not the individual is licensed to do so. Exceptions are law enforcement officers.
    Ditto
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