Young, Thin, and Cute New Hires - page 8
by TheCommuter 52,521 Views | 295 Comments Senior Moderator
My workplace, a freestanding specialty hospital owned by a for-profit corporation that operates multiple facilities across the United States, has been having recent troubles with low Press Ganey patient satisfaction scores. This... Read More
- 0Feb 28, '13 by NickiJulesQuote from ClearBlueOctoberSkySo true!I take exception to this statement. I personally don't care if you smile all the time. I don't care if you don't say hello, good morning and all that jazz. I don't particularly care if you even remember my name.
What I care about is if you have the skill to make sure that I, or my loved one, will make it safely through the night and into the morning. I want to know that you have the experience and the balls to stand up to the doctor to advocate for our well-being and to tell them that they need to rethink their plan of action. I want you to have the experience to trust your gut when things start to go south.
So yes, I might give a low satisfaction score for lack of experience, because often, that lack of experience will shine like a beacon when it comes to patient care and low confidence in the ability to handle the curveballs.
- 4Feb 28, '13 by TheCommuter Senior ModeratorQuote from NickiJulesSome of my coworkers are floor nurses with 30+ years of experience. One graduated from nursing school in '79, another in '82, and so forth. And prior to recent changes in the site management team, the facility where I work used to hire very experienced nurses.I would imagine that most nurses with 15, 20 plus years under their belt would not even desire a job that a new nurse is also qualified for. A lot of them have put in their time and moved on, maybe to admin, outpatient, or something else.
Quote from RNdynamicThey're doing great and everything, but they're not going to stay they way they are, at least physically. One day they'll be 55 years old, constantly skipped over for opportunities, and wondering why it has to be this way.To all the new grads out there: Holla. Rock on, and continue to show your confidence. You're doing great, and you are fine the way you are.
- 2Feb 28, '13 by nursel56 GuideQuote from RNdynamicThis attitude will only cause friction and the development of factions in the workplace because it's full of generalizations and sets up an adversarial relationship right out of the gate. It is annoying when people lump a group together based on an arbitrary characteristic, whether it is a positive trait or a negative trait. This thread doesn't anger me in the least, and I'm not being defensive. Just that you will be working with nurses of a wide variety of ages and levels of experience. Not all new grads are young. Rising numbers are second-career students. Anyway, I don't think Commuter's facility was hiring new grads, just young, thin, cute nurses.Why are there so many negative theads by certain individuals on this board, aimed at lecturing new grads? It's always the same theme, the same people posting it.
Contrary to most of the sheepish comments here, I applaud the facility in the OP for being one of the few who are so willing to hire large numbers of new grads.
Are people afraid of their unit's power structure being threatened or something? Drop the complex already, guys. New grads are the future. The new graduate nurse's role today is more skilled, more technical, relies on a larger body of knowledge, and it is quite honestly way more difficult now than it ever has been. Here's for a change of pace: I applaud all the new graduate nurses who are starting fresh on their orientations. All of them rock, and the more young faces we have, the better off the profession will be, regardless of whether they are thin or not. I know some people resent hearing this, but the young, new nurses are the ones who bring about change to the profession and they are truly the heart of nursing. New grads shouldn't change to the stale culture of their workplace. Instead, they should be actively encouraged to make the workplace change more to their liking.
It is my belief that their young, vibrant personalities and skill with technology will make them far superior nurses than their predecessors have ever been, and I applaud them for that. To all the new grads out there: Holla. Rock on, and continue to show your confidence. You're doing great, and you are fine the way you are.Last edit by nursel56 on Mar 1, '13 : Reason: forgot something
- 3Mar 1, '13 by HolyPeasYeah, I can see that. I think that nursing as a whole is a professional carreer, but some fields are more professional than others. Psych nursing, for example is pretty lax. I am an easy going person but even I look around sometimes and think "what corner did they these people come from?" But the birthing center I had a rotation in was very much a buttoned up type of place.
- 10Mar 1, '13 by joanna73 GuideSomething to mention that many new grads (with the exception of second career nurses) have not developed is life skills. Not ALL, but many....before I get flamed....because this comes with living on your own for a while, working various jobs, and developing a solid sense of yourself. This occurs through time and experience. You just don't know at 23 what you know at 40. However, new grads bring an energy to the unit and they've learned the latest in EBP. We learn from each other, and if a unit hopes to thrive, a mix of new grads and seasoned nurses is beneficial. Quite honestly, all the infighting does nothing positive for the profession.
- 5Mar 1, '13 by madwife2002 Senior ModeratorCommuter, this is a great article and has provoked a great debate, thank you!
When I started nursing back in the late 80's all nurses were young, most of us started at 18 and became an RN at 21-22 years old it was the norm. I was a little older at 26 but still young.
You didn't see many older nurses back then so everybody got looked after by the young and glamorous
Nobody ate us, the difference between today and yesteryear is the way new nurses have been trained period. Less hands on half their life in college a couple of days here and there in clinical.
We spent 8 weeks every 10 weeks working on the floor side by side the nurses, learning hands on care.
I remember talking to an RN who said she had been an RN for 12 years it shocked me LOL I thought gosh I can barely get through the training let alone think I will be in the job 12 years.
So here I am one of those 50 plus year old nurses, who believe it or not has really good computer skills and keep myself abreast of all current situations. 24 years as a nurse! Loved nearly every min of it.
I love the young nurses, I do believe there is room for them however I do believe like life there has to be a great mix of ages and experience.
- 1Mar 1, '13 by Esme12 Senior ModeratorHere is another thread that is experiencing the mass removal of experience from the bedside, http://allnurses.com/nurse-colleague...ml#post7200313.
With the economy the way it is...and the plethora of nurses looking or jobs...this treatment of the profession as a whole will continue until the winds change and the economy recovers
- 1Mar 1, '13 by RNdynamicQuote from TheCommuterIn that case, your OP is even worse than I imagined. No new grads? Sounds like a terrible, anti-education, anti-teaching facility to me. Is this in the boonies of Wyoming or something?I am the OP. My facility hired no new grads.
None of the new hires are new grads, as my workplace would loathe having to spend staggering amounts of money on 3-month new grad orientations. They all have anywhere from one to six years of experience.
I also notice that my workplace hired no 45-year-old newer nurses, even though plenty of 'older' second-career new nurses are looking for work in the metro area where I live.
At any rate, it sounds like your facility is going for the next best thing to new grads: young people with little experience and very open minds. Congratulations to them on doing something right.