Last names on ID badges and retaliation by patients - page 3
I am a nursing student who would like input on her school's policy on ID badges. We are currently required to display our full first and last name on our name tags at our clinical sites. I... Read More
Sep 13, '05I have to agree with other posters that if someone REALLY wants to find out where you live they can.......but it would be SO much easier for those people if your last name is on your I.D. badge!! We used to have our last names on our badges, but a few nurses voiced some concern over this, basically saying that the E.D. nurses and the psych nurses weren't required to have their last names on their badges, only the first initial to their last name with their first name and title. I work on a unit that takes the same patients that those same E.D. nurses take care of, and we get psych patients, too, to stabilize them after their suicide attempts. It didn't make sense that some nurses had the right not to have their last name on their badges but we were required to, regardless of the fact we took care of some of the same patients!! Anyway, problem was solved when we got a contract with a local prison. People just didn't wear their name tags in the room until we got our last name off of them, and it did happen. Anyway, check out the policy at the hospitals your doing your clinicals in....if the nurses wear their last names on their badges, I think your argument will be significantly weakened, unfortunately. If their last names are not given, bring this to the attention of the director of your program....it may help. Good luck, keep us posted!!
Sep 13, '05Quote from Lil_Skipper04I agree. This is exactly what I posted earlier in the first page.I think that if that's the case, then a special ID # should be given out. That way it saves us from having our last names on our badges, and it still easily identifies us. For example, Joe S. RN #2245.
Sep 13, '05I usually only have my first name, and RN on my employee badge. I have an unlisted number, my address is obscure, and NO ONE has my permission to give out any phone numbers I list as contact numbers. No, I am not paranoid, I have a right to privacy. I do my job, I make my own decisions as to whom I want to associate with outside of work. I have had contact with some patients outside of work, others NO WAY am I interested in any contact with them or their familiy. It can be difficult here in my rural area, but it can be done.
Sep 13, '05[FONT=System]I agree with Mr. Huffman on this one.
Joe Shmoe, RN should have a name tag that reads:
"Nurse Shmoe RN"
...........I plan to introduce myself to my patients this way, and will expect EVERYONE to respect my professional title while I'm at work.
Sep 13, '05Quote from James HuffmanI completely agree. I prefer to be called by my first name, but I introduce myself using both. If my colleagues want me to call them by their last names as a sign of respect I do so, and have them call me by my last name as well. Many of my Spanish speaking patients use my last name as a sort of term of endearment when they find out I am trying to learn Spanish (Ola, Seniorita Fergus...").I think the issue of professionalism certainly comes into play here. If nurses want the professional respect and standing that physicians have, going by first name is not the way to do it.
People in professional or business settings are normally known as Mr. or Ms. Jones, or whatever. We don't identify adults by their first name. We call children by their first name, and sometimes adults we consider "beneath" us. But someone we respect is known by their last name. If we wish to be identified by our first name, because of some over-blown fear of harassment, we should not be surprised that we are not treated as professional colleagues.
Jim Huffman, RN
For the people who don't want patients to know their last name: do your patients have a right to see their charts? Ours do. Since the nurses full names are in there it seems like hiding them on our name tags would be a waste of time for us. Maybe that's why I don't see the big deal about the name tags.
Sep 13, '05If you wonder what you can do with a last name, try this out.
http://www.zabasearch.com/Last edit by nialloh on Sep 13, '05 : Reason: Bad spelling
Sep 13, '05Quote from niallohA lot of good my unlisted number does me...grrrIf you wounder what you can do with a last name, try this out.
Sep 13, '05Our hospital does not require last names on the badges. In fact, it's discouraged for staff who work in patient care areas. I don't feel that makes us any less professional.
I don't think patients need to know our last names.
Sep 13, '05I had several home health patients look my name up in the phone book and call me. UH I was not happy.
Sep 13, '05Quote from niallohAmazing, DOB and all :stoneIf you wounder what you can do with a last name, try this out.
Sep 13, '05OMG! I also did that search....a lot of good paying that extra $5 for unlisted service does me! :angryfire
Wow, this is scary to me. I guess to be pro-active, I will get a PO box and only use cell-phones by the time I am a nurse. That is a long way off though....maybe laws in my state will change by then??
Sep 13, '05Quote from BSNDec06Thank you for the link to the OSHA document...I believe that it will come in handy. I work in acute care, but we care for many psychiatric pt's who are unstable and threatening to staff. I'm going to keep a copy of the OSHA document in my locker along with all my other policy/procedure "cheat sheets".The reason I am concerned for our safety is because nurses are at an increased risk of workplace violence and retaliation compared to other professions.
The OSHA document I referred to can be found at:
It is very interesting, and I recommend reading it if you are so inclined.
The reference to using ID badges without last names can be found on page 19 of the PDF.
Thank you all for your input so far.