Mount Sinai.....Getting a foot in the door - page 2

Ok, so I'm trying my hardest to get a job at this hospital, yes, even as a new grad (the glass is half full, right?). The thing is, each and every time I call the nurse recruitment office, the receptionist either tells me that... Read More

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    you mean like Jacksonville FL...r they hiring new grads there too...

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    Quote from Paco69
    I can't help to wonder whether there is a Mt Sinai nurse recruiter or two lurking on this board just sniveling as they read this thread ...

    One would hope! They should be sniveling; they are not doing their jobs at all. I'm supposed to be well-versed in customer service etiquette as a nurse, and yet the nurse recruiters aren't? Please! I have since stopped trying with Mount Sinai. I've done all that I could, time to focus on other places. I never put all my eggs in one basket anyway....
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    It has absolutely nothing to do with customer service. For a lot of these hospitals you can't walk in to even fill out an application. I have tried more than a couple of times and the question that I get is, "Do you have an appointment?" My response usually is, "No, but I would like to apply for a job and drop off my resume." They usually say well the best thing to do is apply online and if u would like to still submit my resume I can leave it at the front desk and we will give it to them. So alot of times you can't get to HR without an appointment.
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    Quote from GotIn2009
    It has absolutely nothing to do with customer service. For a lot of these hospitals you can't walk in to even fill out an application. I have tried more than a couple of times and the question that I get is, "Do you have an appointment?" My response usually is, "No, but I would like to apply for a job and drop off my resume." They usually say well the best thing to do is apply online and if u would like to still submit my resume I can leave it at the front desk and we will give it to them. So alot of times you can't get to HR without an appointment.
    .....And that's if you're lucky and catch the receptionist on a good day. Any other day, she will just give you the business card and wave you off. Next to NYP, Mount Sinai hires like no other hospital in the city. But they are full of BS. No one will take your resume. I even here that the people who have formerly worked as unit clerks while attending a nursing program to obtain their BSN cannot even land a job as an RN there. It's pathetic. They recently had an Open House for experienced nurses. When I called to ask about whether they will hold an Open House for new grad RNs, the receptionist told me they're not sure.
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    Anyone know if Mount Sinai will consider someone like me? I am an Associates Degree RN with almost 2 years experience in med/surg/tele. Will be done my BSN next year (God Willing)

    I am desperate to find a hospital job in the city! I am not giving up but there are times I want to! I know people will say I'm wasting my time applying since I don't have my BSN, but I still believe there's hope for us ADN's!
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    Quote from GotIn2009
    It has absolutely nothing to do with customer service. For a lot of these hospitals you can't walk in to even fill out an application. I have tried more than a couple of times and the question that I get is, "Do you have an appointment?" My response usually is, "No, but I would like to apply for a job and drop off my resume." They usually say well the best thing to do is apply online and if u would like to still submit my resume I can leave it at the front desk and we will give it to them. So alot of times you can't get to HR without an appointment.
    To be fair in this post 9/11/01 NYC world if not even before many hospitals began tightening up security including controlling access. This was in part due to various crimes committed including rape, infant abduction, theft, etc...

    Many NYC hospitals are big barns of places built in another era. Back in the day usually the only security was one lone guard and sometimes not even that, just a person sitting at the front desk. With all the normal comings and goings of a hospital ( patients, visitors, staff, etc...) people can and often did saunter right past that desk with no questions asked. If persons knew the routine such as nurses shift changes even better. Just dress up in whites and blend in with others reporting for duty.

    Because of their size it is often difficult to impossible to control where persons go once they enter a hospital. They may say they are going to "HR" or to visit a patient but unless escorted directly once in often they are free to roam at will.
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    Consider that the reason there are many nursing grads on this forum complaining about not getting jobs is that you don't sound like professionals who understand how the business and healthcare worlds work right now. And that is your fault, not the hospital's. Complaining on a website will not get you a job. Instead, spend your time learning how to join the professional world - how do you appropriately contact people at large businesses, how do hospitals hire (they haven't accepted paper resumes and walk-ins for years), how do you beat ATS software, what should be included in ATS in order to get you filtered, etc. Navigating the professional world is just as important as being able to fill in boxes on the NCLEX, and people who know how to do it stick out and get hired.

    So stop complaining about recruiters and start learning - read articles in Forbes or LinkedIn on how ATS works, create professional networks with people who already know the field and have jobs, look for changes to meet the recruiters (like through NSNA meetings), learn what's important to hiring managers. I have met, spoken with and taken hospital tours with all of the Mt.Sinai nurse recruiters. They are engaged, professional people who answered all of my questions and told me what Mt. Sinai is looking for and what their goals are.

    In short, if you are not getting hired, change something about yourself. What you're doing isn't working and it's not because the hospital world is full of unprofessional people, it's because you don't yet know how to be one of those professionals. It's time the nursing profession adopted more of the high caliber behavior of other (and unfortunately, more respected) healthcare professionals.
    jayc1157, Mabelcee, All4NursingRN, and 1 other like this.
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    Quote from fairdinkum
    Consider that the reason there are many nursing grads on this forum complaining about not getting jobs is that you don't sound like professionals who understand how the business and healthcare worlds work right now. And that is your fault, not the hospital's. Complaining on a website will not get you a job. Instead, spend your time learning how to join the professional world - how do you appropriately contact people at large businesses, how do hospitals hire (they haven't accepted paper resumes and walk-ins for years), how do you beat ATS software, what should be included in ATS in order to get you filtered, etc. Navigating the professional world is just as important as being able to fill in boxes on the NCLEX, and people who know how to do it stick out and get hired.

    So stop complaining about recruiters and start learning - read articles in Forbes or LinkedIn on how ATS works, create professional networks with people who already know the field and have jobs, look for changes to meet the recruiters (like through NSNA meetings), learn what's important to hiring managers. I have met, spoken with and taken hospital tours with all of the Mt.Sinai nurse recruiters. They are engaged, professional people who answered all of my questions and told me what Mt. Sinai is looking for and what their goals are.

    In short, if you are not getting hired, change something about yourself. What you're doing isn't working and it's not because the hospital world is full of unprofessional people, it's because you don't yet know how to be one of those professionals. It's time the nursing profession adopted more of the high caliber behavior of other (and unfortunately, more respected) healthcare professionals.

    i agree with you fairdinkum.. it has something to do with "YOURSELF"..
    without further ado, do something with yourself first before complaining ;D

    i am a new grad here and looking forward for a better future ;D
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    Sorry, but it is all about who you know and also you MUST have a BSN. It's a very big issue if you're trying to get into Mount Sinai and NYP without a BSN. The job market is very competitive now and with a lot of people holding a BSN and hospitals wanting to maintain their magnet status, all their nurses have to be BSNs without exception. I just got hired within the Mount Sinai system and it's because of a connection. I also know a unit manager in another hospital within the MS system and he was going to hire me, but I took another position in another MS hospital. The bottom line is the unit managers are the ones doing the hiring. The recruiter begins the hiring process after the unit manager chooses you. So I recommend that you go out there and take jobs in nursing homes, agencies and network and become friends with your coworkers because your coworker could move on to Mount Sinai, NYP, whatever hospital of your dreams, and be your hook. That's exactly what happened to me.


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