Hey RN students aren't you red hot mad at this!!

  1. If you guys havent heard, as of last Summer RN students are no longer allowed to sit for the NCLEX-PN, I know some people who were going to get their PN while in RN school to make good money to help with school etc..., what do you guys feel about the phasing out of the PN boards in RN programs?? For more info here's the link..http://www.op.nysed.gov/nurse2EQelim.htm
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  3. by   Lovely_RN
    I know that the RN students do not like it but it's a regulation that benefits LPNs. The job market will not be flooded with temporary part-time workers who are going to move on within 6 months. Workers who are likely to not care too much about decent wages or benefits because they know that they will be moving on shortly to RN wages and benefits.

    I think that licensing 3rd semester RN students is partly the reason why LPNs are in the predicament they are in now. Instead of being recognized as a serious career track the LPN license is now seen as a stepping stone to "better" things.

    It isn't going to hurt the RN students that much because once they reach the point where they qualify for the PN boards they are only one semester away from graduating.
  4. by   Wsmith16
    I think the whole thing sucks.
    I was hoping that I could become an LPN to earn some extra cash and to gain valuable experience. I know many RNs who worked as LPN until they passed the boards. If LPN's are given incentives to transition to the RN license by taking classes why can't RN students do the same?
    Anyway, I am going to focus on trying to pass the first semester so I can hopefully one day become an RN and maybe find other jobs to help gain experience. Back to studying.....
  5. by   Sparklet
    Is that possible for NY nursing students to take NCLEX-PN in NJ or Connecticut and work there (i mean it is not so far from NYC, and I know a lot of people who work in NYC but live in NJ and CT)?
  6. by   gt4everpn
    Quote from sparklet
    is that possible for ny nursing students to take nclex-pn in nj or connecticut and work there (i mean it is not so far from nyc, and i know a lot of people who work in nyc but live in nj and ct)?
    hmm this seems like a great way to evade this new measure the nysbon has enacted,but i'm guessing bon is two steps ahead of this plan!! usually in order to practice in one state with another state license one has to apply for reciprocity!! maybe it can work, but if your accredited school is in ny, will nj accept an application from a school that isnt under their jurisdiction?? the mystery remains...
  7. by   RNDreamer
    I was annoyed when I found out, but oh well...I asked this question in the NJ forum and was told no, because NJ does not allow this either....I checked the CT BON website, but I can't find info on the PN exam, let alone whether or not RN students are allowed to take it...let me know what you find out!


    Quote from Sparklet
    Is that possible for NY nursing students to take NCLEX-PN in NJ or Connecticut and work there (i mean it is not so far from NYC, and I know a lot of people who work in NYC but live in NJ and CT)?
  8. by   pagandeva2000
    Many of the RN students thought that this rule sucked, and even signed a petition at my school. I remember reading about this, and disagreed with it as well. However, Falon brought up some very good points. Why take up the space of an LPN that does not have the opportunity (or wishes) to become an RN?

    I still think that this should have been an option, personally. They are still allowed to sit for NCLEX-PN upon graduation, although by then, it really makes no sense. They will be focused on NCLEX-RN by then.
  9. by   Lovely_RN
    Thanks Pagandeva, also why is no one addressing the reasons why the BON has changed their rules?

    From what I am understanding the change was made because of issues with patient safety.

    If you have read what the BON has to say about it what do you think?

    Several factors resulted in the Department’s position to phase out this option. Based on a number of patient safety concerns the Department re-examined its policy regarding this issue. Our investigation found that:

    As a result of curricular changes in registered professional nursing programs, the fourth semester of the program may contain all of the didactic and clinical assignments related to certain content areas such as obstetrical or psychiatric nursing, for example. Students not taking this last semester and licensed as LPNs under the 2-EQ option, therefore, might have little or no contact in these areas.

    We have concluded that the assumption of substantial equivalence can no longer be supported.

    Persons licensed as LPNs under this option have had no content on the differentiated scope of practice of LPNs and RNs and therefore do not know how to practice as an LPN.


    Individuals so licensed are not able to be licensed in other jurisdictions as the requirement in other states is for completion of an LPN program.

    This option is not available in any of the 47 professions regulated by the Department.

    Within the past year staff has met with members of the Council of Associate Degree Nursing, Inc., the Council of Deans of Nursing, Senior Colleges and Universities of New York State and the LPN Council. There has been wide spread support for elimination of this option among all three groups of educators as well as nursing professional associations.
    Last edit by Lovely_RN on Dec 19, '07

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