Why Do We Tolerate This? - page 8

You know, sometimes things have a hidden context. Sometimes, that context can be kind of ugly. When I see that, it causes me to wonder why we allow these things to continue. Hence, this thread. ... Read More

  1. by   greensleeves
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    Keep your forum goiong guys and don't let a few feminists hold you down! Just don't forget to turn those nice butts in my direction once in awhile! :wink2:
    Oh come on, you have to admit you look at boobs and/or butts too

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    Thank you LPNer. I believe this was the point I was trying to make, from a female patient's point of view. I agree with you, I don't think it is possible for men to just turn off the male gene.

    Your honesty is refreshing.
  2. by   Dixielee
    As a female who has worked with a lot of male nurses, I too, find the accusations offensive to men. The OP assumes men have only animal urges and can't control themselves. That stereotype is to men as the ones of the female nurse with the spiked white heels, short white dress and over done make up. Nurses are quick to try to quell those ads that depict women nurses that way.

    I do have a question of the men though. We have lots of male nurses on staff in our ER, and a good mixture of male and female physicians. It still seems that the female nurse, or tech is the one to assist in pelvic exams even if the doctor is female. I have also been asked by a male physician to accompany him when he does a rectal on a female, and not have the male RN go with him if it is his patient. That seems to reinforce this same stereotype, that if 2 men go into a room with a vulnerable female, then they must have sexual thoughts about her! How do you do things where you work? I don't mind being the chaparone, but it seems like a double standard.

    Years ago a non nurse friend asked me if my husband ever got jealous because I was "around so many naked men". I told her that he knew that most of the penis' I saw, had a foley hanging out of them! Somehow that just doesn't evoke any passionate feelings at all!
  3. by   LPNer
    Quote from Dixielee
    As a female who has worked with a lot of male nurses, I too, find the accusations offensive to men. The OP assumes men have only animal urges and can't control themselves. That stereotype is to men as the ones of the female nurse with the spiked white heels, short white dress and over done make up. Nurses are quick to try to quell those ads that depict women nurses that way.

    I do have a question of the men though. We have lots of male nurses on staff in our ER, and a good mixture of male and female physicians. It still seems that the female nurse, or tech is the one to assist in pelvic exams even if the doctor is female. I have also been asked by a male physician to accompany him when he does a rectal on a female, and not have the male RN go with him if it is his patient. That seems to reinforce this same stereotype, that if 2 men go into a room with a vulnerable female, then they must have sexual thoughts about her! How do you do things where you work? I don't mind being the chaparone, but it seems like a double standard.

    Years ago a non nurse friend asked me if my husband ever got jealous because I was "around so many naked men". I told her that he knew that most of the penis' I saw, had a foley hanging out of them! Somehow that just doesn't evoke any passionate feelings at all!
    As crude as it sounds the Doc is simply trying to protect himself and the nurse. In the ER especially you just don't know who you have there and so many women (everybody for that matter) are simply looking for a way to accuse another person of inappropriate behavior. As soon as they manage to make an accusation, they are free to file a suit against the Doc and nurse. By taking a woman with him for the exam, the pt is less likely to sue because if it were two men the pt looking for a law suit can claim one man is simply trying to "cover up" for the other.
    It would not likely survive in court but who in this day can afford to take that chance?! Even out of court settlements are cheaper than fighting the accusations. Our system is way out of control on this and you can't blame the Doc for trying to cover his back side.
    It's childish for people to act this way, but one Doc at one time and one nurse at some other time crossed the line now all have to pay for it.
    Just look at some of the posts we have in this thread, there are nurses who actuallly think other nurses are only in it for the sexual arrousal! With that kind of attitude, how is a man to survive in his job? How can any of us ever expect to be treated as professionals if we do not even believe in the professionalism of our peers?

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