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[ Keep your forum goiong guys and don't let a few feminists hold you down! Just don't forget to turn those nice butts in my direction once in awhile! :wink2: Oh come on, you have to admit you look at boobs and/or butts too ************************************************** Thank you LPNer. I believe this was the point I was trying to make, from a female patient's point of view. I agree with you, I don't think it is possible for men to just turn off the male gene. Your honesty is refreshing.

Friends: Thank you all for your comments. It has been, to say the least, most enlightening. This was the first time I had been to this site, and I thought it might be a good place to see what medical personnel really think. As a patient, it does matter to me, very deeply, what the people who are caring for me in such an intimate manner are thinking. They have the power to ease my pain or to make my life an embarrassing hell. I don't think I am alone among patients when I say that it is just a little scary to give over that sort of power to someone. What surprised me the most was the anger and the ugly name-callling. Is that how you treat your patients, or is only something you snicker about behind their backs? I wish you, and all medical personnel, would listen to patients' fears a little more, and without criticizing them and calling them names for daring to ask a question. You know, I grew up Catholic - full bore, Catholic schools right through college. And for two thousand years we Catholics knew that priests were holy and God-like and would NEVER act in a sexually inappropriate manner. To even suggest such a thing was an abomination. Priests could be trusted as you would trust Jesus. They were above having any sexual feelings. Just wouldn't happen. Oops. Are we all now expected to believe that male medical personnel - who have so much power over their patients - are so much holier and God-like than priests, that they must never be questioned? Right. For those of you who wondered, the men in my life are mostly pretty wonderful, but they are also men, and as a mother of sons and sister to brothers, I guess I've seen unvarnished male sexuality upclose. It can get pretty raw, and I think to ignore that fact of life is kind of foolish. Men enjoy seeing and touching naked women. That is not a lie or an evil thing. My question was, how do male medical personnel simply turn off this powerful urge? Or is male sexuality really not a very powerful force after all? For those who want to equate the two genders in this issue, I think there are certainly female sexual predators out there, but again, if we look at the facts, they are almost a negligible number next to the number of male sexual predators. That's just the facts, like them or not. After all, I've never heard of a "train" at a sorority party. And any woman out there (and probably most of the men) will tell you they'd much rather get in an empty elevator late at night with another woman than with a man. Why is that? But yes, in any procedures that involve genital nudity or manipulation in male patients, I certainly do think they ought to be asked if they would be more comfortable with a male nurse. In fact, there are men I know who were asked this question, and they were grateful to be respected in this way. Thank you again for your responses. I'm sorry to say that there didn't seem to be much reassurance for me here. I am not a troll, I don't froth at the mouth. I'm a patient with, seemingly, a question that dare not be asked. Sorry.

Thank you for your reply. I guess that sort of illustrates my point. If men - and I'm assuming that includes male nurses and doctors - leer at women dressed in "provocative clothing", how is it they can just turn off the "leer instinct" when presented with a fully naked girl or woman, posed with her legs spread wide open? I'm just not getting it. Are you a nurse? Do you leer at "provocatively dressed" girls and women? Do you feel the same impulse to leer at your naked women patients? If not, why not and how do you manage to turn it off?

I am not a nurse. I am a female who is, from time to time, a patient. I am going to ask a very indelicate and politically incorrect question, but I am serious and I would like a serious answer. I am the mother of 2 healthy young males in their 20s. I am the sister of 4 (yes!) healthy not-so-young males. I have known males all my life, and I do not understand how the same males that one night are drunk at a frat party and trying to see, touch, expose, etc. any female genitalia they can, or the same males who salivate over Playboy and Hustler one minute, can the next morning just turn off the sexual interest and look, touch, whatever, all the lady partss, privy partses, breasts, buttocks they want to, and not get turned on. How does this work? Is male sexuality really such a an easily controlled thing, that men can turn it on and off at a moment's notice? It seems that for the past few millenia, women have been warned that male sexualty is so powerful, that the mere sight of a woman is enough to drive a man to rape her on the spot. I think this is the basis for the strict female dress codes in Muslim countries, if I am not mistaken. In our own society, a flimy T-shirt or short skirt has been used as a rape defense. But somehow, the same men who can't be trusted with a woman in hot pants can be trusted to spread a woman's legs and do lots of interesting "medical" stuff. I'm not looking to start fights, but I honestly don't understand how this works. Are male medical personnel specifically trained how to sublimate their sexuality and not get turned on by naked girls and women, or is male sexuality a lot less powerful than we have been led to believe? Because I don't understand how this can possibly work, I do not and will not have any male medical practitioners. Period. I look at my two sons, healthy and perpetually horny, and I am appalled that if they were medical students, nurses, etc, they would be given free reign to look at and touch all the naked girls and women they wanted to. Again, I'm serious. How do you all handle your own sexuality?