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OK we get it STUD, you're straight - page 6

Something has been bothering me for quite some time on this forum and I have not known exactly what it was. Well I figured it out and y'all may not like it. So often when reading posts on the... Read More

  1. Visit  cpl_dvldog profile page
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    Quote from caryrey02
    The problem goes both ways... by posting this you are generalizing gay nurses (which should just be NURSES the same way str8 nurses are should only be seen ase NURSES) as being feminate and wearing female scrubs.... not the way to express yourself... I am gay, I wear male scrubs, really cool ones with lots of pockets, I conduct myself professionally (thats why I go to the hospital: because I am a health care professional) and I am EXTREMELY proud of being gay, my patients, fellow nurses and employer love the way I am and how I do my job...but I refuse to accept people describing gay individuals the way you just did it... it doesn't make you any better, it doesn't make you any "straighter"...

    We should all go the hospital trying to save our patient's lives and improve their quality of life period...but expect us the gay community to take same sh*t that we dont have to take because that is not written in any contract.
    I rarely see straight people, nurses or otherwise, go out of their way to make it known they are straight. Believe it or not, but simply being gay is not a big deal to most men. It is when they act in extreme ways is where the problem is. Men talk about other men all the time. We talk about the guy with the mullet, the guy that only owns wife-beater t's, the one with the 70's porn mustache, and such. If we see a guy prissing around, or in women's clothing we talk about him too, gay or not. If we see a woman built like a linebacker, in a flannel shirt and a wallet with a chain, yep, we'll talk about her too. I have worked with several gay men and women over the years. Some nobody knew were gay unless they were told, others you could spot from a mile away. Being gay in the workplace is just like being gay in high school, they will be made fun of, along with everyone else in school that makes it known they are different. It is not strictly a gay thing.
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  2. Visit  caryrey02 profile page
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    Quote from cpl_dvldog
    I rarely see straight people, nurses or otherwise, go out of their way to make it known they are straight. Believe it or not, but simply being gay is not a big deal to most men. It is when they act in extreme ways is where the problem is. Men talk about other men all the time. We talk about the guy with the mullet, the guy that only owns wife-beater t's, the one with the 70's porn mustache, and such. If we see a guy prissing around, or in women's clothing we talk about him too, gay or not. If we see a woman built like a linebacker, in a flannel shirt and a wallet with a chain, yep, we'll talk about her too. I have worked with several gay men and women over the years. Some nobody knew were gay unless they were told, others you could spot from a mile away. Being gay in the workplace is just like being gay in high school, they will be made fun of, along with everyone else in school that makes it known they are different. It is not strictly a gay thing.
    you dont go to whatever facility is that you work at to talk about people period...and if you do I don't think people will be interested in knowing...BTW people that make fun of other (like for example gay folks) for being "different" should be in the nursing career....that is so old...who told you gays are different ? If you didn't know we are just the same as you are, we just choose to sleep with a different gender and that doesn't affect you.
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  3. Visit  cpl_dvldog profile page
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    Quote from caryrey02
    you dont go to whatever facility is that you work at to talk about people period...and if you do I don't think people will be interested in knowing...BTW people that make fun of other (like for example gay folks) for being "different" should be in the nursing career....that is so old...who told you gays are different ? If you didn't know we are just the same as you are, we just choose to sleep with a different gender and that doesn't affect you.
    The only people I know of that go to work to talk about other people are comedians and talk show hosts. If a black guy walks by with a Rick James jerry curl hair-do somebody on my floor will make a remark about it, or a male nurse has a Hello Kitty scrub top on someone will make a remark about that too. It is not like anyone sits around and has a protracted conversation about those people.

    By the way, like it or not, gay people and straight people will always be considered different. The difference is mental, not physical. If gay people and straight people were not considered different the words gay and straight would not exist to describe the two.
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  4. Visit  caryrey02 profile page
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    Quote from cpl_dvldog
    The only people I know of that go to work to talk about other people are comedians and talk show hosts. If a black guy walks by with a Rick James jerry curl hair-do somebody on my floor will make a remark about it, or a male nurse has a Hello Kitty scrub top on someone will make a remark about that too. It is not like anyone sits around and has a protracted conversation about those people.

    By the way, like it or not, gay people and straight people will always be considered different. The difference is mental, not physical. If gay people and straight people were not considered different the words gay and straight would not exist to describe the two.
    I am donw with you "dude" I have couple of more interesting things to do but I go at peace knowing the majority is not as superficial and couple of other things...have a good one str8 stud ;-)
  5. Visit  Irishpsychintern profile page
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    Gay male nurses?????? Hahahahaha in Ireland its taken for granted youre gay if youre a "male" nurse... Ive given up being perplexed by this assumption and just let people wonder.
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  6. Visit  steveogurule profile page
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    I'm new to this website and happened upon this thread. I'm surprised by the number of thoughtful responses, there seems to be a general pattern of mutual respect and introspection here. I think it's important that these kinds of discussions take place in order to increase our nurse like qualities. I did read a small squabble transpire towards the end of this thread. I read a comment that condemned feminine gay men. You know what I'm talking about if you read this entire thread. I would encourage this student to watch the movie Pageant as part of their higher education. I would encourage you get to know an annoying flaming femme or two. You need to understand that some men can't control how femme they are..gay and straight. You need to get those uncomfortable feelings out of your heart if you are to be an inspired nurse that people admire and respect. Good luck!
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  7. Visit  Chemistry Sux profile page
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    I don't have a problem with "Male Nurse"....I don't care for "Murse" because that is also the short way to say man purse. I think the outside preception is that if your a male nurse something must be wrong with you. Obviously when posting on this forum it is not necessary to justify why you chose nursing, but to most of society, it is still a little abnormal. I think this effects pre req students and 1st semester nursing students a little more than most, and therefore you may see a grater need in that population to "prove" that they are "normal".

    I know this much, if I'm a pt I want a GOOD NURSE, male, female, gay, straight, black, white, jewish, gentile or muslim, does't matter.
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  8. Visit  Zaraza profile page
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    Quote from Chemistry Sux
    I don't have a problem with "Male Nurse"....I don't care for "Murse" because that is also the short way to say man purse. I think the outside preception is that if your a male nurse something must be wrong with you. Obviously when posting on this forum it is not necessary to justify why you chose nursing, but to most of society, it is still a little abnormal. I think this effects pre req students and 1st semester nursing students a little more than most, and therefore you may see a grater need in that population to "prove" that they are "normal".

    I know this much, if I'm a pt I want a GOOD NURSE, male, female, gay, straight, black, white, jewish, gentile or muslim, does't matter.
    Exactly! A good nurse! That's all that matters.

    When I say I'm a nurse, I say it with pride, I wear that title like rappers wear chains. I've noticed it's more the younger crowd that laughs at male nurses. I laugh when they laugh, because I know, the moment they need a nurse they won't say ****! Haha.

    Be proud of it and people will respect you. I loved nursing school, great gorgeous girls, nothin better.

    See what I did there?...reinforced straightness Lol. Looks like I'm no different.

    On a serious note, glad I discovered this forum. Gotta find a job now.
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  9. Visit  GM2RN profile page
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    Quote from Conqueror+
    I think the problem starts when a man or woman gay or Straight, feels the need to shove it down your thoat and start going on an on about their preferences and escapades. I think sex is like politics, don't make it your soapbox at work/school and you won't run into this kind of garbage. I also refuse to live in fear of the PC police so if you ask me a direct question you will get an honest answer that you might not like. It isn't my job to walk on eggshells so some hypersensitive whiner doesn't get offended. I love Jesus, unborn babies and guns. I don't bring it up at work though. If you get in my face about it that's a different story. Don't put it out there if you don't wanna hear about it.

    Well said!
  10. Visit  Rob72 profile page
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    Quote from Conqueror+
    I think the problem starts when a man or woman gay or Straight, feels the need to shove it down your thoat and start going on an on about their preferences and escapades. I think sex is like politics, don't make it your soapbox at work/school and you won't run into this kind of garbage. I also refuse to live in fear of the PC police so if you ask me a direct question you will get an honest answer that you might not like. It isn't my job to walk on eggshells so some hypersensitive whiner doesn't get offended. I love Jesus, unborn babies and guns. I don't bring it up at work though. If you get in my face about it that's a different story. Don't put it out there if you don't wanna hear about it.
    Pretty much in line with everything you've said. The "problem" is when one makes their sexuality the core of their identity. Straight, gay, male, female, if what/who you bang is "who you are" there are more serious unresolved issues than superficial social acceptance. A co-worker who has to screw anything female and remotely breathing will receive the same flak as the guy with the lisp, sashay in his step and Hello Kitty scrubs.

    Healthy sexuality is an integrated part of one's personality; when one has to conform one's personality to a behavior, it is commonly recognized as a pathology, be it gambling, drugs, or sex. Pretty much the same arguments made in the tats thread. Respect is earned, not given, nor is it given on the basis of non-coherent behavioral patterns. No one has the right to have their predillection "respected".

    Having the right to pursue happiness, in private, is generally a given (barring children, most animals and some archaeic laws), pursuing happiness in public means that the pursuit is readily open to criticism based on individual reactions, and social norms.
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  11. Visit  Anoetos profile page
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    I am just thinking this through so bear with me:

    A problem I have is when anyone takes their act too far. I understand that a lot of effeminate men can't help it, but what they can help is becoming b****y, talk-to-the-hand divas. In the same way, other dudes can't help being hairy-backed, somewhat loud aggressors, but they can help being sexist, BMOC Douchebags.

    Neither extreme is really emblematic of anything, the former isn't really feminine and the latter isn't really masculine, both are unpleasant for everyone and more than a little pathological (as has been said).

    So for me, I don't really care who you're having sex with, just don't be a jackmonkey.
  12. Visit  cpl_dvldog profile page
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    I had a Western Civ. Professor that put it the best way. "In this country you have the right to life liberty and the persuit of happiness. You also have the right of free speech. You do NOT have the right to force others to accept your choices . You do NOT have the right for your free speech to be heard by others. Also you will, no matter who you are, be criticized for some of your life choices, so be prepared for it. If you can not handle the criticism, make better choices".
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  13. Visit  Roy Fokker profile page
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    Interestingly enough - I have yet to meet a single homosexual [I'm not fond of gay/straight term] health care professional.
    I have a few friends and acquaintances that I know are homosexual - but not a single health care professional (male or female).

    My standard reply to "so you're a male nurse?" (I borrowed it from a nurse here on AN).
    "Yeah. Becoming a female nurse is kinda expensive - what with all the surgeries and hormone therapy and all that. And to be honest with ya - I kinda like being able to pee standing up..."



    cheers,
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