Any males out there tired of the drama? - page 7

by HumptyDumpty

Anyone out there get real tired about the constant drama, anxiety, and non stop worrying exerted by your female classmates? To me, it seems like the majority of them have nothing to talk about other than nursing school, tests,... Read More


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    I've found that study guides prepared by someone else don't really help much - part of the learning and studying value you get is from actually compiling and organizing the study guide yourself in a logical outline fashion. Helps you organize your thoughts and show you how everything fits together. And 150 pages is a bit much. Better to make a brief one (maybe no more than 20 pages) from notes taken in class and complement that with other sources like textbooks, powerpoint slide shows etc. That's what works for me anyway.
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    I'm not a male, BUT I have been a nurse since 1974...I'm sorry to inform you...the drama does not end! Working with a majority of women breeds drama and uninteresting topics of conversation. I have had my fill, all these years, of the petty gossip, major 'hurt feelings' (boo hoo), whining and simply ridiculous way women treat others and themselves (this includes the eating of new nurses).

    I'm sure this is going to cause a backlash, but it's the truth.

    I have been fortunate to have at least a few male nurses and RT's working in my NICU the past 20 years; before that, I had males on the staff of my two dialysis units. It truly does create a kind of balance that I have found to be very valuable to maintaining my sanity. I could not work twelve hours and only have conversations about the latest celebrity fashions, who has the best bargain on designer purses and the cost of that ugly haircut. It's just not interesting, and I tend to glaze over rather quickly.

    And the b******* and back-biting never ends. Young nurses or old, it goes on and can last for years, hurting relationships and patient care. I've also seen it ruin a couple of careers.

    The men with whom I've worked tended to let stupid pettiness just roll off, or yelled it out and went for a beer (and it didn't come back the next shift). They didn't want to talk 'shop' all the time but could with the best of us. The conversations tended more toward subjects out of medicine, more toward the rest of life that doesn't occur within the four walls from 7 to 7.

    I feel males generally are able to balance their work and home lives a bit better than women I have known and perhaps, that is because we ARE women. Maybe it's in our nature. I'm too old now to care about figuring it out. I just know I won't work in an all female environment.

    Wishing all the men out there a good balance in their work.
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    dbscandy:

    I am 56 y.o., male, and in school for nursing. In all the years I've worked, I've always made it a conscious deliberate practice to keep my work & professional life totally and completely seperate from my home life. I don't bring work problems home with me, or home problems to work. I think it's a good practice no matter where you work or what you do. I think too that over the years things like gossip at work and backbiting have generally gotten worse everywhere in the workplace..... You have to try not to buy into any of it, and try to just let it go in one ear and out the other. I've always practiced that no matter where I work, and will continue to make that a practice when I'm a nurse as well..... I honestly believe that as more men enter this profession, the nature of a lot of these things may change in nursing. Like the thing about "eating their young" - this has got to be the most illogical, counterproductive thing I've ever heard of.... it's like people actually want to see nursing in general killed as a career. If someone is an experienced nurse, they ought to take a young newbie one "under their wing" so to speak, and quietly and without fanfare be their unofficial mentor. I know it would give me a lot of personal satisfaction to see someone like that succeed, and know that in large part I had a big hand in their success. When I finally get to that point, where I'm a nurse with maybe ten or fifteen years under my belt, maybe I can be that sort of mentor to someone just starting out......
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    Quote from AragornSkywalker
    I cant believe people make those 150 page study guides...
    I could not agree more. I receive these 150 page study guides and look through them and find myself saying "75% of this crap is completely irrelevant to the material on the test." Which is why a lot of these people do so bad. They cannot distinguish between whats important and what is not. Seriously, for most tests, a nice consolidated study guide of 15-20 pages will suffice.

    As far as the entire CRNA route many of you have suggested to me because of your assumption that I am not a "people" person is complete BS. You do not know me in the least. Every single patient I have dealed with in clinical loved me, maybe for not being a superb "caring" happy go lucky nurse, but for being REAL. I can assure you, I will be a highly successfuly nurse practitioner.
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    Quote from ~Mi Vida Loca~
    LMAO, I don't care who you are, that was funny. I needed that today, thanks
    There is a lot of truth in all of these, but remember girls and boys, every one have different level of limits, so be kind with your words to our fellow nurses. Those who boast is asking trouble , cause nobody wants to hear this-------this is one of the problems w/ us nurses----we fight each other instead of fighting together. Who knows, if we truly unite, we can lobby in Washington and get higher pay and benefits as nurses instead of scratching and backbiting each other other. So be a true professional and know what is petty and what is important. True, you need to know your tolerance and preference before selecting a specialty.
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    Quote from TuTonka
    Hmmmmmmmmm just browsing the age group. So informative . Good Luck Gentlemen....you are going to need it.
    Your response couldn't have proved the drama the threader was referring to more perfectly!! Thanks a lot for your input!! From my experience I've found that men and women bring different expertise to the work environment and it benefit everyone just as it has in Law Enforcement.

    P -But it's the small disruptive men-eating minority like yourself that feed off creating drama and conflict that is the problem. And my guess is that you haven't analyzed yourself enough to know it's true!!!

    I - There is NO DOUBT in my mind that bringing more males into the nursing industry would drastically reduce this nonsense of men haters like yourself.

    E - ??? Waiting on the change in attitude and demographics!!
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    Quote from 1a2s3d
    Your response couldn't have proved the drama the threader was referring to more perfectly!! Thanks a lot for your input!! From my experience I've found that men and women bring different expertise to the work environment and it benefit everyone just as it has in Law Enforcement.

    P -But it's the small disruptive men-eating minority like yourself that feed off creating drama and conflict that is the problem. And my guess is that you haven't analyzed yourself enough to know it's true!!!

    I - There is NO DOUBT in my mind that bringing more males into the nursing industry would drastically reduce this nonsense of men haters like yourself.

    E - ??? Waiting on the change in attitude and demographics!!


    It is always good to have a "mixture" , whether that is race or gender. The different inherent qualities from each culture(race) and gender, complements from what is lacking . Look at the mutt dog-----no in breeding, and more healthy and some even smarter than their pure breed counterparts.
    We need to get along w/ everybody, specially at work. some people carry some garbage----- so do not let their garbage be yours! Hang out w/ positive people as much as you can ---they have a lot to offer and teach you.
    or try to soar w/ the eagles, and forget the turkeys below ?
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    i'd say ignore it, you will run through the same crap working in a hospital or any other clinical setting. basically forever, women have had to put up with what they think is stupid & petty in a largely male dominated workforce forever, so don't sweat up guys, just move on to what you need to get it done. i've done CNA work for almost 3 years now & can clearly see the " good ole girls network" everyday! that said, not all women in nursing are that way, in fact, most are wonderful. i've had more trouble with pompous CNAS, nurse managers, and clinical coordinators who won't give me any needed overtime, but give the gals all they want, than with female nurses. i've soo admired most of all the gal nurses i've worked with & think the feeling is mutual. move on guys, just cause most (not all!!) of the female nursing students are , well, flighty, does'nt mean you have to be. takes two to argue, i don't play , you don't have to either. let it go, do your work, be proud of your accomplishments & don't lie down with the dogs. there are plenty of smart , savvy, female nursing students, but i can admit most are'nt 21!!
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    Quote from 1a2s3d
    Your response couldn't have proved the drama the threader was referring to more perfectly!! Thanks a lot for your input!! From my experience I've found that men and women bring different expertise to the work environment and it benefit everyone just as it has in Law Enforcement.

    P -But it's the small disruptive men-eating minority like yourself that feed off creating drama and conflict that is the problem. And my guess is that you haven't analyzed yourself enough to know it's true!!!

    I - There is NO DOUBT in my mind that bringing more males into the nursing industry would drastically reduce this nonsense of men haters like yourself.

    E - ??? Waiting on the change in attitude and demographics!!
    Talk about "drama" -- I see only a possibly critical reference in the post you quoted to age, not to gender. How on earth did you arrive at the conclusion that the poster is a "man-eater" and "man hater"?? Do you even know for sure that the other poster isn't male? Guess the "drama" isn't limited to just the females in the biz ...
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    wow! this thread has me wondering a few things:

    #1. is there really such a thing as a 150 page study guide? or even a 15 page study guide? at what level in nursing do i get to look forward to this? we get a one-page exam outline and our text books..... which i guess may count as a 1500-page study guide?

    #2. i'm interested in knowing the different locations of some of the various posters in this thread. i see people ranging from zero study to 150-page study guides... and opinions on nursing ranging from mediocre to divine. in michigan, rn school is rarely scoffed at as an easy a endeavor. there are a couple of students, like myself, who try to make it look easy as we scurry in the darkness to make sure we’re on top of things. i guess we just take the profession a little more seriously in my class? i can’t imagine a student with such a ‘ho hum’ attitude. the instructors at my school would have them for lunch.

    #3. do they teach nurses in england how to write properly?


    uhoh, sounds like i'm buying in to the gossipy ****** nurse already.... i'll fit in nicely!




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