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Jun 03, 2009 08:58 PM

Good care with staffing ratios?

Updated Jun 03, 2009 at 09:53 PM by Pooksmom1996

I have worked as a staff RN at several LTC's where the nurse/patient ratio was about one nurse to 20-25 residents, give or take. In every facility, the RN/LPN staff had to cut major corners in order to get everything done. Doubling up on med pass times, skipping some treatments, and definately not having the time to check up on multiple items in the treatment book, like protective heel cushions, siderail positioning, skin checks and many other things
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If we had a resident or family who had TLC needs that needed a little extra time..taking the extra time was very difficult, although I tried my best It broke my heart!! This was true with every nurse, even the fastest and most experienced. I felt like I was giving bare bones care that neglected the needs of my residents.

Also, from a legal standpoint, nurses were constantly having to sign off on things that they had not done, since management expected everything to be done by end of shift. We can ask nursing assistants if things were done, but that is not a substitute for our legal responsibility for personally checking on items in the treatment book.

I would like to stay in LTC-I love working with residents and I would like to be a good floor nurse or manager some day who makes sure that the best of care is given. My heart is really in this.

But my experiences make me wonder...

I would love to hear if you have been able to set things up at your facility so that good care is done without the need for shortcuts, or what challenges you face with this issue.

Thanks!

Pooksmom


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from arelle68
Old Jun 04, 2009, 12:13 AM

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The only way to give the care that I need to give to my 23 residents would be to have 2 nurses instead of one, and 3 CNA's and a shower aide instead of two CNA's and a shower aide. Corporate will not pay for the help we need, as you very well know. We are streched too thin for our care to be our residents deserve, and what their families are paying $6200 a month for. We stand between the corporate monster of greed, and our defensless residents. We have got to stop being intimidated, and fight for the rights of our patients to have the care that they need!
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Old Jun 04, 2009, 03:13 PM

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Well...I think acuity has a lot to do with it too. Would be nice if we could staff based on that. Somedays the 24 residents I have is totally doable, others..heck no. Having a desk nurse would help us out or even one that would do treatments or just work part time as a treatment/ desk nurse. Getting all the "other" duties off on nursing would help too.
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from lovemyfam
Old Jun 04, 2009, 03:29 PM

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At the facility I am currently at, staffing ratios seem to have gone down the toilet. We have 3 nurses and 4 to 5 aides for 60 residents on dayshift! I find myself taking 3 hours on my first med pass because I'm setting residents up with water to bathe, toileting, feeding, trying to prevent falls.
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Old Jun 06, 2009, 09:52 PM

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OKAY so I know I'll be called old, but I used to have 30 subacute patients for meds, treatments, assessments, notes, IVs, Gtubes and I still had time to do everything and give good care. You have to learn to do more than one thing at a time. The lady who is so slow taking her meds....assess her while you're waiting. Check heel protectors when you're in the room doing something else.
I'm a DNS now and my nurses have it easy. Never more than 21 residents each, 5 CNAs and a nurse manager for the day shift. It amazes me that they think they are over worked.
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Old Jun 07, 2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CapeCodMermaid View Post
OKAY so I know I'll be called old, but I used to have 30 subacute patients for meds, treatments, assessments, notes, IVs, Gtubes and I still had time to do everything and give good care. You have to learn to do more than one thing at a time. The lady who is so slow taking her meds....assess her while you're waiting. Check heel protectors when you're in the room doing something else.
I'm a DNS now and my nurses have it easy. Never more than 21 residents each, 5 CNAs and a nurse manager for the day shift. It amazes me that they think they are over worked.
Hey, can I come work for you??

Actually, I don't have it bad at all........currently 24 residents with 2.5 CNAs and a med aide who is shared between two units. I even have time most evenings to hang out with the residents and shoot the breeze while I check FSBS and give meds; thankfully I'm fairly efficient for an old nag with arthritis and a big weight problem, so I really can't complain about ratios when it's all getting done in the allotted time AND I'm not killing myself to accomplish it.
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from lovemyfam
Old Jun 07, 2009, 03:38 PM

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ok...well I know its not just me. None of the nurses seasoned or not get lunch break time.
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Old Jun 07, 2009, 05:54 PM

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lol....does 'seasoned' mean old??? I always made sure my nurses got their meal breaks even if I had to cover the floor while they ate. At this facility, it's not an issue.
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from lovemyfam
Old Jun 07, 2009, 06:31 PM

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Thats nice!
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Old Jun 10, 2009, 05:58 PM

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We are lucky in a way, I am the Unit Manager, I have a Unit Secretary and a specific wound care nurse. That does make a difference but the floor nurses still work their a***s off. Med nurses I salute you
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