LPNs Often Fare Better Than Some Degree Earners - page 7
by TheCommuter 18,352 Views | 88 Comments Senior Moderator
Some readers might be aware that a college bubble is forming in the United States. Since so many people in this day and age have earned college degrees when compared to previous generations, the value of having one has decreased... Read More
- 2Aug 18, '12 by BrandonLPNIt goes without saying that, overall, RNs make more than LPNs. But people would be surprised how much a LPN can make in certain facilities. If (when) I become a RN, I'm almost certain to take a pay cut since I'd be considered a "new grad" as my years as a LPN don't count as nursing experience most places. Really puts a damper on the motivation to go through nursing school all over again....
- 1Aug 18, '12 by UpstateNyDollCnaI'm a CNA and for the past 2 years,I have been in and out of college and jumping from one major to the other because I wasn't sure what I wanted to do,I wasn't completely happy with any major. I just knew that everyone was expecting me to go to college. I jumped from going for my RN to wanting to get a grad degree in OT,to accounting but always in the back of my head I was thinking of becoming an LPN. I applied and was accepted to a tech school for LPN but because of personal issues,I dropped out. I am too late to apply for the September 2012 classes,but I plan to apply to some tech schools near by who offer LPN for their September 2013 class. I'll be 25 next month,and I'm tired of going to college when it's obvious I'm not happy there. In the future maybe I'll go back to get my BSN but for now I'm just focusing on getting my LPN.
- 1Aug 18, '12 by nursecolleenI focused on earnings in my quick little blurb, however, that is certainly not why I became a LPN. I don't feel superior to anyone especially my FRIENDS with Master's degrees. They are the ones that comment about what a waste their degrees have been as they can't find jobs in their fields. One is working as a records clerk for $12/hr. Do I feel superior? Hell no. Do I feel that I made the right choice for me? Absolutely. I am almost done with my RN program. The education I received as a LPN was well worth it as I am having no trouble passing the courses as it is information that I already know. I was working 12s when I made $69k but got hired at a high rate because they were having a hard time filling the position. I wasnt bragging, just making a point (maybe not very well albeit). Best wishes.
- 2Aug 18, '12 by TheCommuter Senior ModeratorQuote from tothepointeLVNClick on the link below if you wish to read about a young lady who accrued nearly $100,000 in student loan debt to earn a degree in women's and religious studies. She now works a lower-end job as a photography assistant and has monthly student loan payments of $700+.Yup as a nursing professor once told me there are worst things to be while your working your way through RN school than being a LVN and it's true I've been able to take time off on my educational journey without being stressed about making ends meet. If I fall sick again then I'll land on my LVN butt not with a minimum wage aide job.
I'm assured that this woman now has a broadened worldview and extensive knowledge combined with the ability to engage in critical thought due to her education at a prestigious university, but she states in the article that she would gladly give it all back if she could.
- 0Aug 18, '12 by ShinnichiThis makes me wonder....
I'm still trying to complete the pre-reqs for the RN path. Each semester brings a new struggle with financial aid and a never-ending road of delays. I looked up the pre-req requirements for the LPN path and honestly I'm just as close to qualifying for that program as I am for the RN. The LPN program isn't as long as the RN program,... just makes me wonder :/ ....
- 3Aug 18, '12 by whatdoIdonow?I went all the way through to RN at a tech school Wish I had gotten my LPN after the first year so I could work parttime and learn the basic skills. So, now that I am out working, I am in LTC doing the LPN job because that is the extent of our patient acuity. The local hospitals wouldn't touch me without one years experience or a BSN or both. I am well paid at my facility, which is nice. It's even better than the average around here. But, I can see that if I did not have my RN (and will be starting my BSN in the fall next year) I would feel stuck at the LPN level. I want to be open to do so much more than the routine that goes in LTC.
More education is never a mistake. Education is an investment in your future. You never know where that road will take you. Because I earned my BA in my twenties, I was able to be accepted immediately in my program without having to take the pre-nursing prereqs and then apply (that would have made the waiting list about two years longer). Because I have my BA, I was able to transfer those credits to my BSN program so I again have only a few courses to take before the fall of next year. Because I have my BA, I was legally allowed to home educate my children in states that require the parent to have a BA to teach high school at home. Because my husband has his BA (in classics from UF) he was able to be in management in his industry (something his brother could not do with the same company because he didn't finish his degree).
Some majors in college may seem fluffy, but it's all about the individual and their resourcefulness once they earn that degree. Higher education is an investment in your future. You may not see an immediate monetary return (like with a tech degree) but it will open many doors in the future and prevent there being a ceiling being placed on future advancement because of the lack of a degree. It show committment to employers. It show that you can do quality course work.
Does college need to cost as much as it does today? No.
If someone didn't have the funds to go after high school, I would suggest a tech degree so they could start working. Then take classes as an adult professional in the evenings. Eventually, they will have that bachelors. There is more than one way to skin a cat!
I would never advise someone to skip the college degree because they are making good money today. That is a short sighted view of the future. Degree earners fare better in their overall lifetime earnings than those who don't have degrees, studies have proven.
The general tone of this whole thread seems to me like the tone of reverse racism- LPN's striking back at those with college degrees, declaring themselves smarter and better while waving their checkbooks in the air to prove it.
Again, the measure of the worth of someone's education is not based on the size of their paycheck. Are teachers worthless, social workers? Many fields produce lower incomes in the real world. That doesn't make the field less needed or worth pursuing.
- 6Aug 20, '12 by StephalumpQuote from brilloheadHah! My husband is a welder/machinist and he makes a better salary than I will out of nursing school, for sure. He received on the job training, so he has absolutely no debt and is moving up the ranks into management far more quickly than I could ever hope to!This editorial cartoon was in my newspaper today....
My little brother, however, just graduated from college with his business degree and landed a respectably entry level job, but it drives him up the wall that my "uneducated" husband with a blue collar career makes more than him. It drives him absolutely nuts.
He can make all the snotty comments about manual labor he wants - we'll be laughing all the way to the bank. And the reality is, my husband would waste away sitting in an office at the computer all day, so not only is he paid well, but he's happy.
- 3Aug 20, '12 by brilloheadQuote from StephalumpMy niece will graduate with her BSN around the same time I graduate with my ADN. She'll have spent over $100K and I'll have only spent ~$10K, maybe less. We'll make the same wage. Granted, she'll have the opportunity to get into management at some point if she wants to, but I'm in my 40s now and my goal is to get OUT of mgmt, so I don't see the point in spending six figures on something that I don't want to use.My little brother, however, just graduated from college with his business degree and landed a respectably entry level job, but it drives him up the wall that my "uneducated" husband with a blue collar career makes more than him. It drives him absolutely nuts.
Quote from StephalumpThat's the thing... everyone should be able to do something they enjoy, or at the very least do something that they don't detest. The world will always need plumbers and carpenters and car mechanics and all that jazz, and all of those trades earn very healthy wages. Why would anyone think that they have the right to look down on someone who is making a living at something legal and paying their own way in the world?He can make all the snotty comments about manual labor he wants - we'll be laughing all the way to the bank. And the reality is, my husband would waste away sitting in an office at the computer all day, so not only is he paid well, but he's happy.