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Do LPNs Get the Respect They Deserve? - page 2

ok, well, i am a pre-nursing student. i am waiting to see if i get accepted to an lpn program right now. i later plan on finishing up and getting my degree after i have worked as an lpn for awhile.... Read More

  1. Visit  itsme profile page
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    I just think that respect is something that is earned, not a given. No matter what your degree. I am an LPN, I know my scope of practice, and I do my job well. I have EARNED respect from coworkers, I did not just assume I would get it.
  2. Visit  NursesRmofun profile page
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    Quote from itsme
    I just think that respect is something that is earned, not a given. No matter what your degree. I am an LPN, I know my scope of practice, and I do my job well. I have EARNED respect from coworkers, I did not just assume I would get it.
    Definitely true in that. I was proud to be an "on the ball" LPN when I was a LPN for many years. People said they thought I was a RN (after knowing me and working with me.) In general, I think most LPNs that I have met are great nurses. I think LPNs get a lot of respect.
  3. Visit  Marie_LPN, RN profile page
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    Respect is definately something earned, but at my last job, the open hostility between the RNs and LPNs was ridiculous. Everytime a particular LPN and RN got into an arguement, that RN always muttered "she oughta go and become a real nurse before she ever tries to tell me what to do again". The whole situation lacked respect, but then again, no one was doing anythign to earn it either.
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    Quote from LPN2Be2004
    Respect is definately something earned, but at my last job, the open hostility between the RNs and LPNs was ridiculous. Everytime a particular LPN and RN got into an arguement, that RN always muttered "she oughta go and become a real nurse before she ever tries to tell me what to do again". The whole situation lacked respect, but then again, no one was doing anythign to earn it either.
    It's a tough thing....with probably no end in sight. It happens. Some RNs feel that LPNs should think it is a given that they know more or make better decisions,...but in some circumstances, it is not true. Sometimes a LPN has come across a situation before or has read up on something and knows more than a particular RN about a certain topic. None of us know everything. Sometimes we don't make the best decision 100% of the time. We all need to listen to the other person....We might learn something.
    I recently had an encounter with a BSN and had similar problems. Because she is a BSN, she thinks she has all the right answers 100% of the time. She doesn't.
  5. Visit  nurturing_angel profile page
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    I am a RN and let me tell you, I have worked with many LPN's that are just plain awesome.......they are knowledgeable, professional and respectful of both RNs and patients. I could not have asked to work with better co-workers. We have LPN's on my med surg floor and some of them know wayyyyy more than some of the RN's I work with and I definately have 2 LPN's that I would prefer to have backing me up over one of the RN's.
    Don't let some rumors scare you about a RN/LPN feud. Learn your stuff and be proud of your profession. Plenty of us RN's respect you!


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    Quote from nurturing_angel
    I am a RN and let me tell you, I have worked with many LPN's that are just plain awesome.......they are knowledgeable, professional and respectful of both RNs and patients. I could not have asked to work with better co-workers. We have LPN's on my med surg floor and some of them know wayyyyy more than some of the RN's I work with and I definately have 2 LPN's that I would prefer to have backing me up over one of the RN's.
    Don't let some rumors scare you about a RN/LPN feud. Learn your stuff and be proud of your profession. Plenty of us RN's respect you!


    Bless you. You ARE an angel! I just started as a new grad in LTC, my RN preceptor is full of praise and tells me that I don't belong in LTC. Unfortunately in my area I don't have a choice right now. I am very medically knowledgable and it was such a pleasure to get such kudos from an RN. There are "good and bad" nurses. The initials behind the name don't tell the story....the proof is in the pudding. Mutual respect is so very important. We don't have time to do battle, we all have people to care for!
  7. Visit  hopefully profile page
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    I am a LPN student...The RN instructor treats me like crap..
  8. Visit  Dixiedi profile page
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    At this point in time it's almost a funny story.
    30 years ago when I was a student LPN, a classmate asked the instructor a question. I don't even remember what it was now but I do remember her answer. It was: "Y'all are only gonna be LPNs, you don't need to know that."

    It was the last question she answered. Several of us went to our administrator and inquired as to why she would say something like that. She was fired immediately. This one nurse set the stage for us all those years ago.

    Simple fact is, if you know enough to ask a question, you need to know the answer. Period.

    Point is, there are many predjudices in nursing and many of those come from RNs who have no idea what LPNs study in school. Since these RNs do not know enough to ask a question to find out our level of education, they don't need to know the answer. They could not understand it.

    Think of this for a minute.

    When I went to LPN school, preadmission testing required collegiate level scores in the humanities, sciences and English. Then we spent 12 months studying nursing courses. We used the same text books a couple of the RN programs in town were using for at least two of our courses. (one was Good Samaritan Hospital Diploma Program and the other was the University of Cincinati BSN program)
    The ADN program in town offers 2 school years of classes. 9 months each. 1/2 of that is spent in ... what? the same things my school required us to test in before admission. Who got more nursing education? (I won't even go into the sorry excuse the ADN and BSN programs have for clinical experience when compared to our LPN program!)

    Any predjudiices in nursing are stemming from ignorance. Ignore it, it's part of human life, it, unfortunately, will never go away.

    I have worked in numerous states. Always had to have an RN in the building in acute care. Needed an RN "on-call" in long term care and home care. And I don't ever remember having to call them because I was legally unable to perform my duties.

    I am rambling. Nursing education is and always has been a hot topic for me. Sorry but I sure do love the opportunity to vent!
  9. Visit  sixes profile page
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    just a little history first. i was a health care aid and then became a registered nurse assistant then a registered nurse. last year i took a job in ltc as a supervisor, now i am a charge nurse.
    i have the greatest respect for anyone working on my floor regardless of their personal title.
    the hca's work their fingers to the bone, they never hestitate to do something if i ask and the lpn's/rna's are very hard working.
    i seldom need to give them direction. when they ccome to me for direction they are informative and have all the information gathered for me to make an informed decision. rarely they have misjudged something.
    i personally love having rpn's. at out facility the only things lpn's can't do are the following. injections, cathetars unless they have been certified. g-tube feedings.
    i love my lpn's they are intellegent and dedicated

    if you want hands on in ltc lpn is the way to go if you want to push a lot of paper then rn is the way to go
    it is all a very personal choice
    good luck in whatever you do
  10. Visit  Dixiedi profile page
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    Quote from sixes
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    at out facility the only things lpn's can't do are the following. injections, cathetars unless they have been certified. g-tube feedings.
    that's seems like about all i do! cath, meds/injections/g-tube,g-button feeds and change the above when needed. where do you work?
  11. Visit  NursesRmofun profile page
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    Quote from Dixiedi
    When I went to LPN school, preadmission testing required collegiate level scores in the humanities, sciences and English. Then we spent 12 months studying nursing courses. We used the same text books a couple of the RN programs in town were using for at least two of our courses. (one was Good Samaritan Hospital Diploma Program and the other was the University of Cincinati BSN program)
    The ADN program in town offers 2 school years of classes. 9 months each. 1/2 of that is spent in ... what? the same things my school required us to test in before admission. Who got more nursing education? (I won't even go into the sorry excuse the ADN and BSN programs have for clinical experience when compared to our LPN program!)

    Any predjudiices in nursing are stemming from ignorance. Ignore it, it's part of human life, it, unfortunately, will never go away.

    I have worked in numerous states. Always had to have an RN in the building in acute care. Needed an RN "on-call" in long term care and home care. And I don't ever remember having to call them because I was legally unable to perform my duties.

    I am rambling. Nursing education is and always has been a hot topic for me. Sorry but I sure do love the opportunity to vent!
    Are you saying that LPNs in your school, community, or area of your state get more education that RNs? That's very interesting. Why not just call yourself an RN and call it a day. <tongue in cheek> I know. I know....You don't *want* to be a RN.
  12. Visit  1styear profile page
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    "The ADN program in town offers 2 school years of classes. 9 months each. 1/2 of that is spent in ... what? the same things my school required us to test in before admission"

    Ummmm liberal arts, Anat and Phys, Child Dev, Psych, Sociology, Chem, Microbio ---all of those are usually taken BEFORE you begin school for an ADN program. And you can't get tested in, you actually have to complete the credits(not to mention get an A to get into nursing school these days)
  13. Visit  Dixiedi profile page
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    Quote from NursesRmofun
    Are you saying that LPNs in your school, community, or area of your state get more education that RNs? That's very interesting. Why not just call yourself an RN and call it a day. <tongue in cheek> I know. I know....You don't *want* to be a RN.
    Actually yes I am saying the LPNs from my school get more nursing education than the ADN nurses in my community, at least at that time. The hospital school of PN I went to no longer exsists so I have no way of judging any more. When I went to LPN school, there was also a community based school with an LPN program. I do not believe I could be convinced they got the same level of quality education I got.

    I have to wonder if it is still the same way. I did, many years ago begin the proccess of lpn - ADN. Family responsibilities put a stop to the proccess. I have onnly recently begun the proccess again. I never said I don't want to be an RN. Yes, in fact I do. Money is the motivation, it is the only motivation because in my current position (pediatric home health) I have the same responsibilites as the RNs on my cases. I simply do not "take" cases with a c-line.

    Anyway, I started the proccess many years ago and had the liberal arts/sciences and humanities out of the way. I had taken some of the nursing courses. Frankly, I didn't learn a lot more. Of course, I do admit I was an experienced nurse by then and do not sleep on the job. I kept my carreer moving in such a way that I broadened my horizons regularly. That also makes a difference I am sure.

    Just last night I was working a case where there are 4 foster children with special needs in the home. Two nurses on duty. The other was an RN and we did get into quizzing each other to stay awake. With reference books in hand we quizzed each other for an hour or so covering what we do everyday. Vents/gases, fluids/tube feeds, g-button/g-tube changes, skin care, ROM, etc. Question for question we both got 100%.

    Did I learn all that I needed to know in school? Did he? We will never know.


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