Any Lpn's that would never become a RN?

Nurses LPN/LVN

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Just curious if there are any LPN's that have no intention on becoming a RN? If so why not?

Nursing school was harder on us than the RN's. Be Proud!

I don't care for that statement at all. What makes you say that?

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Specializes in ER, Pulmonary.

You do not have to like the statement, but it speaks the truth. We were treated as lower class citizens, an after thought. Not only by the RN students, the faculty. They had one clinical day, we had two, they had paperwork we had more. It's as though we had to prove ourselves twice as hard because we weren't in the RN program. Ask any of the 30 of us who attended the LPN program at Illinois Central College. None of us have any desire to go back and bridge after that hell. At least not at that facility.

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Well, that was your experience. I was an LPN for several years before I became an RN. My RN program instructors were much harder on students that the LPN ones were. We had more than twice the clinical hours, and about 5 or six times as much paperwork. Also, we had the responsibilty of supervising LPN students in clinicals, and were held responsible for their actions.

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Specializes in ER, Pulmonary.

Everyone's experience was different. But you almost sound resentful you were in charge of those LPN's students in clinicals. If anything, being an LPN first would have made you a little more compassionate. If you didn't want the responsibility, you shouldn't have bridged over to RN. They are ultimately the individual's that are responsible. You defend your RN title and I will defend my LPN title. We all are in it for the same reason, to care for people and make their experience with medical issues a little more bearable. There will always be a pissing contest between the two professions. I respect the RN's for their knowledge and expertise. I just expect the same respect for my scope of practice. I may bridge one day myself, I am of leadership quality and enjoy delegating and making things flow smooth. I like teaching the non-confident individuals. I expect alot more responsibility and I know I can handle it. I will remain respectful of those who work for me as I do now. So, I apologize for any wording that may have been misconstrued.

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I did resent having to supervise one LPN student. The others, I enjoyed.

With this one, we were in med surg. A confused pt was thrashing around and trying to get OOB. I instructed the LPN student to stay with him and keep him safe while I went to see if the pt had a PRN Ativan order or anything like that. He said ok. The pt did not have an order. I worked with his assigned nurse to get an order. When I returned to the pt's room, I saw that he had climbed over the side-rails, fallen out of bed, pulled out his IV, and foley, and was injured. He was a big bloody mess. I found the student in the break room flirting with the female staff. The student was male.

I was held responsible, and I was not one bit happy.

In your post, you did not say that LPNs had it harder than RNs at your particular school. Your statement sounded like you were saying LPNs have it harder, period.

I don't assume to know how hard things that I have never done are.

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Wait, I don't understand. How could an RN student be responsible for supervising a PN student? You had no license. Students work under their instructors license and the colleges insurance.

Were you "buddied" with the student?

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We were told this was the supervisory part of our schooling. Each RN student was assigned an LPN student to supervise. I was not held legally reponsible for the other student's neglect. I was held responsible in the nursing program and written documentation of what the student did went into my record in the nursing program.

We were told that this was practice for when we would be charge nurses and reponsible for the actions of other nurses.

I did not think it was fair, because I delegated properly, gave clear instructions, and followed-up. The student was insubordinate and negligent, in my opinion.

Anyway, I was put-off by the statement the other poster made, saying "we had it harder than the RNs."

I can imagine the furor that would erupt if the roles were reversed in that statement.

That would be the same as me saying "ADNs have it harder than BSNs". I am not a BSN, but I'm pretty sure that BSN programs are generally tougher than ADN programs.

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Specializes in Sub-Acute.

JUST AN AID? Well, I am "just an LPN Student" going into my 3rd term now, and my second term of my clinical rotation. "Just an Aid" you say? I can not tell you while doing my rotations in long term care last term how much I depended on those folks that call themselves "just an aid" to find out info on my patients, or get help with AM care with a tough patient. With most of the nurses on the floors I worked on, having anywhere from 30 to 50 patients to hand out meds to, those Aids where my best friends, still are, and always will be. They have always been there to help me out, and when I am finished with my patient, waiting for post conference, I always ask if I can give them a hand. They are more than "Just Aids" they are a huge part of the health care team in today's healthcare environment, and I will never forget that. Also, at 51 years old, at this time I have no desire to continue towards my RN. It will take at least 2 years for me to recover from the sensory overload I am in now! :rotfl:

Gary

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I can see everyones point here and all are valid. It is important to understand amd appreciate the CNA and the hard work they do each and every day for their patients. As well I value all LPNs and I see them as a valuable part of the health care team. It is sad to see such division amoungst CNA, LPN, and RN. I worked my way up the ladder from CNA to LPN and then on to RN. I think this has helped me to appreciate each role. Even amoungst Rn's there is division between ADNs and BSNs, which is the "better" nurse. EMts versus paramedics, they too have disagreements over which is better educated and best prepared for the emergency role. I will say in ending that there has to be a point at which we become content and proud of our accomplishments and not always seeking the next step, as if that will bring fullfillment. Sure it may bring in a better paycheck, but when do you just say enough, I am proud of where I am in life with my career. I do respect and admire those whom are confident in there health care roles wether it be CNA, LPN or RN etc.

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Specializes in Med-Surg, Home Health, LTC.

I am an LVN 8 years that once considered and in fact started a step up program to get my RN.

At the same time I was working full time on a busy med surg floor.

I believe it was the combination of ignorance at the school I was attending ( I had to fight with them to get in because I already had my AS in nursing and they argued I could not attend a 2 yr college LVN to RN program) and the political process I began observing in a medical system driven by profit rather than what was best for the patient, and other misc things when I decided to not become an RN.

I am totally happy as an LVN...make good enough money as I am single -it is other people that sometimes seem concerned or irritated about it. and...opportunities are really increasing!

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Specializes in Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health.
I am an LVN 8 years that once considered and in fact started a step up program to get my RN.

At the same time I was working full time on a busy med surg floor.

I believe it was the combination of ignorance at the school I was attending ( I had to fight with them to get in because I already had my AS in nursing and they argued I could not attend a 2 yr college LVN to RN program) and the political process I began observing in a medical system driven by profit rather than what was best for the patient, and other misc things when I decided to not become an RN.

I am totally happy as an LVN...make good enough money as I am single -it is other people that sometimes seem concerned or irritated about it. and...opportunities are really increasing!

I am a bit confused; you have your AS in nursing? Is it that you decided not to take the exam, or what was it (if you don't mind me asking).

I totally agree with the political mess going on, and the drive for profit situation...those, along with not feeling I would be any happier and really hating school aided to my decision to stay where I am. If I do go back to school, it may be for physical therapy. One never knows, I never say never, but being an RN would not solve my problems; it would actually add to them.

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HA!!!! I guess things have not changed AT ALL at good ol ICC AKA Illinois Central College!!!! The LPN program is HELL. I am a tough person and have great grades but I am quitting!!! It is ridiculous!!! Yes, it is as if you have to prove yourself. The paperwork is INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think it is even worse now. I have a BA and never in my life have I dealt with anything like this. They lost HALF the class last year and 8 weeks into this year we are down 8 students (out of 32!!!), does that tell you anything????

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