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Fiona59

8,343 Posts

One possibility is finishing your ADN in Texas and working there for year while you complete an online RN to BSN program in Canada such as the one at Athabasca or doing that after you get to Canada and are working some other job.

As others have mentioned there aren't many RN jobs in Toronto or Alberta or other Canadian cities right now.

If you can get into an RPN program in Ontario it might be worth doing even without being able to transfer classes. I hear there are more RPN jobs than RN jobs in Toronto.

Alberta said last year that it was going to replace RNs with LPNs. It is a weird situation that RNs are supposed to have BSNs now but the market wants RPNs/LPNs.

1. What visa do you propose? He doesn't qualifty for permanent resident status.

2. Alberta is a province not a city.

3. Ontario's PN programmes have plenty of home grown applicants.

4. You are misquoting Duckitt (and I'm no great fan or defender of his). Alberta is hoping to utilize the appropriate nurse for the unit in question. The difference in scope of practice between an L and an R is very fine. It makes no financial sense to have units that are 8 RNs and 2 LPNs when it could function with a 50/50 split. The skills that divide the nurses on most surgical and medical units are not skills done a daily or hourly basis. The reason that the changes are happening now is there is a huge of lack of funds in healthcare. And many senior RNs are taking the buyout package, opening up jobs that have been held by them for the last 3 or 4 decades. You can't change a position with an incumbent and many of the jobs held by these nurses are perfectly within the LPNs scope.

Alberta's LPNs have not been consulted over the years about changes in their scope, it's merely been decided for them. Just as it has been for the RNs. But bear in mind that the PN that passes CPNRE today has more skills than the graduates of the RN programmes of the '70s and early '80s. The RNs from that era had their skills upgraded in the hospital setting to keep them current with their ever expanding scope of practice.

knina

49 Posts

I apologize for writing quickly and clumsily. I just wanted to help him understand that the nursing job situation is complicated and difficult. You did that better than I.

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Also, there is NO way anyone could work full time while completing the online PN-to-RN course at Athabasca in one year. It cannot be done. Most people who do the course take 5 years to do it.

RNGrad2006

450 Posts

I completed an ADN program in Washington State and then was accepted to do a RN to BSN program in Canada. It is possible. But I would definitely complete your ADN program in Texas first. Not sure if it makes a difference though that I am a Canadian citizen. I ended up completing my BSN in the US though since I am still living and working in the US and it was more practical to do so.

ocalakiter

15 Posts

First of all,

once you become a permanent resident of Canada there are some stipulations, i.e. you can stay a permanent resident if you live in Canada for at least a certain time period. So, make sure that you do not overstep the boundaries and loose your PR.

Second, if you want to live in Ontario, the College of Registered Nurses of Ontario, or the RN governing body, offers a bridge program for ADNs, just contact them and ask them about it.

In my opinion, if you can stay in the US and not loose Canadian PR rights, you are better off getting an ADN, work as an RN under OPT and get in the meanwhile an RN to BSN.

If the retrogression is not lifted by the end of your opt, and it probably won't, then you can go to Canada with a BSN and experience!

Bek1975

33 Posts

Thank you very much you all,

I am traveling to Toronto in July, 2010, so I am going to visit the CRNO to get more detailed info.

sinband

1 Post

dear all,

i am an international nursing student in tx, usa. i have recently got my canadian permanent resident card and willing to move to toronto, since i cannot work in the usa legally. also, i just completed second semester of nursing school (rn) and heading to get a third semester in the fall of 2010. so, how can i transfer my nursing and other prereq. classes into colleges in toronto? i am really confused, i've e-mailed to several colleges that offer rpn programs in toronto. unfortunately, no one has replied yet. i really do not know what to do? i do not want to stay in the usa. or is it better to complete my associated degree in nursing in tx, and then register for canadian nclex??? please help me, your advises would be highly appreciated...

thank you.

i live in bc but got my lpn education in the u.s. my credentials were evaluated by ices international body as i was directed by clpnbc and was accepted to sit for clpn exam in bc. what i'm saying is as long as you have completed the nursing program, lpn or rn, bc is going to accept your credentials after ices evaluation. visit clpnbc and ices for more information. now, i don't know if you are already a lpn as that counts. as for the transfer of credits to a canadian college, i'm scratching my head about it as well coz i need to transfer mine but my little research tells me it is posible, depending on college and the time lapse. if you can stay in the u.s. and complete ur education that's good but if not, there is always a way out. gud luck!

Blakpepa

36 Posts

I realize this post is a few months old, and im surprised that no one has suggested this, but have you considered just going to a school across the border to do your RN-BSN whilst living in Canada? For example, I live in BC and less then an hours drive away across the border is an RN-BSN program offered by U Washington. there are several 1-2 day pr week options across the border from Ontario in New York State that you should consider. It would only take a few semesters and is much quicker then doing an entire 4 yrs and shelling out thousands at an Ontario College for a BSN. There is absolutely no way that your nursing credits will transfer to any Canadian BSN program...they totally frown at the thought and make it clear that they are not willing to make any exceptions (this is also from personal experience). Dont let all your hard work go to waste, just do a RN-BSN program across the border or online and dont even think twice about it. and dont bother to transfer to a RPN again, you invested alot of time and money into an ADN so you might as well do the required BSN.

Bek1975

33 Posts

Thank you soo much Blakpepa!

Most probably I will do the same.

rosamma1

19 Posts

If I complete my BSN in US, am I eligible for writing Canadia Licence Exm?I am planning to move to Canada immediately after I graduate BSN from the school herein US.

OttawaRPN

451 Posts

Specializes in acute care med/surg, LTC, orthopedics.

Not necessarily, you need to contact the nursing regulatory body for the province you wish to practice in, they will determine your eligibility.

PACNWNURSING

365 Posts

Specializes in Emergency Room.

I would say seek other employment in Texas complete your training and land a job as an RN in Texas, Texas is one of the few states who are still hiring RNs.

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