Nurse Anaesthetists

  1. I read in the Nursing Times recently that Nurses were finally being allowed to move deeper within the world of anaesthetics. i awas looking at anaesthetics in the U.S. where not only did i discover that 65% of all anaesthetics in the US are given by Nurses! But that anaesthetics was the oldest Nursing specialty with records of the practice going back to the early 1900's. A Certified Registered Nurse Anaesthetist (CRNA), undertakes 24 to 36 months of intensive training to gain a Master Degree and license to practise as a Registered Nurse Anaesthetist. There are currently some 29,000 CRNA's practising all over the US.
    I personally feel that this training model could be imported over to the UK with no problems at all. The course is not solely intended for theatre nurses. In fact many recommend that Intensive Care nurses should consider it as a career as in their job they monitor the patient closely and see the effect of the drugs and also make tough decisions on what is best for the patient. By the way the average salary for a Nurse Anaesthetist is $123,000!! (Which is 83,900!!!)
    So who is with me? Anaesthesia can be a Nursing Specialty!!!!!!!!!!
    Last edit by jjjez on Jul 27, '03
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  2. 28 Comments

  3. by   Scotty
    I wonder if you will get paid more than E Grade for that?

    It does sound like a great career option though.
  4. by   jjjez
    Definetly it would suit Nurses working in dead end F and G grade posts. i really do think that the U.S. CRNA course could be transferred over here immediately. i hope it does very soon!!!!!!!!
  5. by   Good_Queen_Bess
    Originally posted by Scotty
    I wonder if you will get paid more than E Grade for that?

    It does sound like a great career option though.
    LOL!
  6. by   cathy949
    I did the JBCNS 182 course in Anaesthetic nursing in 1982. Althouhg I could not fully utilise it in UK, I could practise abroad. Anaesthesia is absolutely fascinating!!
  7. by   tenkev
    I'm interviewing for a couple of nurse anesthesia schools here in the US. I lived in the UK for a couple of years and am interested in comming back in a few years, most likely to just visit, but would like the option to work too. Does the UK use nurse anesthetists yet?
  8. by   Cricoid911
    UK Nurses are currently undertaking a 2.5 year masters course in anaesthesia and will upon training completion become fully fledged anaesthesia practitioners or AP's.

    The training has already begun and is about half way through for the first batch. I do not know wherte it is run but believe many uk nhs hospitals now are on board.

    I have been told that their job desc. includes pre assessment, induction, maintenance and reversal of anaesthsia. It also includes resus and transfers and trauma life support interventions.

    I have one friend who mworked with a trainee ap and he was putting in swan sheaths, fem lines, neck lines and art lines in addition to anaesthesia duties.

    sounds very interesting. This is in the infancy i am led to believe but will undoubtedly become a major workforce in the uk.

    JRD : Anaesthesiologist
  9. by   Cricoid911
    As for the pay...rumour has it it will be around 50,000 uk GBP upon completion of the course. Anyone clarify this?
  10. by   Silverdragon102
    Quote from Cricoid911
    As for the pay...rumour has it it will be around 50,000 uk GBP upon completion of the course. Anyone clarify this?

    that sounds way too much. I know NP's who have done masters and work very much independantly and don't get anywhere near that much. I think a lot would be on each individual hospital and seeing as they are having financial difficulties not sure how they are going to be able to pay this amount
  11. by   sunnyjohn
    1 US Dollar$= 0.543067 GBP (Pounds, UK)

    50,000 UK= 92,071.85 USD

    That is about average for CRNA's in the US. Actually, a bit low. You don't think they will get the same amount at CRNA's in the USA?

    I suppose with things the way they are in the NHS it will be difficult to find that kind of salary for anyone.
  12. by   keira
    How true IS it that the salary of a nurse anaesthetist is $500 per hour? How much you're going to spend to become a CRNA? thank you...
  13. by   Silverdragon102
    Quote from keira
    How true IS it that the salary of a nurse anaesthetist is $500 per hour? How much you're going to spend to become a CRNA? thank you...

    Not sure if we are looking at $500 per hour definately not in the UK may be work looking and posting this in the CRNA forum
  14. by   Nurse2BMonique21
    Hi i just want to say that this is what I will be doing once I get to the states and have some ICU experience. i have to have a bachelors degree..if you look on salary.com if will show you the salarys of a CRNA, and yes they are very high!..Some CRNA's work self employed and it has reported that some CRNAs earn more than Pediatricians . I have looked into doing something like this here in the Uk, and they are piloting the Anesthetic practioner program which will probably pay about 40k to 50k, money is not everything! but it means a lot but i dont think the NHS would ever pay me something like those salarys in the USA. I gathered that by me the time i have 3 or 4 years work experieince as a CRNA i will have the equivalent salary of a surgeon in the UK, which is in the range of 80k to 100. There are also oppurtunities to become a Chief Aneasthetist earning over the 200 mark. Gaswork.com lists all the jobs available too. im really determined to do this, so im going to make sure I get a 2:1 or a first before I get to the states.

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