LPN in Cebu?...help.....

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Hello,

good day, does anyone know of a school that has LPN course? especially in cebu. i want to enroll this semester and i have no idea what school offers this new 2-yr nursing course(Licensed Practical Nursing-LPN).

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Try the school right across Cebu City medical center. I forgot its name but if you're from cebu, you'll find it. I'm not sure if Ruiz is offering. LPN isn't very big yet here in cebu.

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If you are doing it to work in the US, don't bother. It will not get you a visa to work in the US. It will not give you immigration approval for other countries, as well.

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Hi All,

Thanks its my first post though ive been reading and learning a lot of valuable inputs. I have to say Suzanne and the rest of the moderators are highly commendable for giving us the right information thanks alot for your hardwork and patience to answer our query.

Im just really really curious like maybe most of those who are interested on this LPN course that is being advertise. You see im an aspiring nurse aswell who wuld like to get the chance to work in US and bring my family, the way the LPN is being presented looks ideal for me and while im still doing research bumped by the fact that its not actually the right course for US nurse aspirant.

Let me just post here an excerpt of the write up from the local paper. I hate to think this is mere publicity and way to lure poor students like me. My heart bleeds...

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CEBU: WANT TO BE A NURSE? YOU CAN TAKE A 2-YEAR COURSE!

CEBU CITY, November 5, 2004 (STAR) INSIDE CEBU By Bobit S. Avila The Philippine Star 11/05/2004

This means parents have to send their children to a four-year college course so they can graduate as registered nurses (RNs). However, when I was in the US, I heard that nursing there is only a two-year course. So it got me into asking: why can’t we have a two-year course for nursing here so that we can satisfy the world demand for nurses?

Well, I got my answer a couple of weeks ago when I interviewed on my TV show Arturo Lacuesta, chairman of the board of the Philippine Paramedical and Technical School of Davao, and their consultants, Jake Marques and Gregory T. Howard, chairman of the Standards Committee for Licensed Practical Nurses at the Commission on Graduates of Foreign Nursing Schools (CGFNS) in the US and president of the National Federation of Licensed Practical Nurses in the US, and they have wonderful news for parents who want to send their kids to nursing school, but can ill-afford to pay for their tuition in the next four years.

Howard and Lacuesta suggest that students take what is called the Licensed Practical Nurse (LPN) course — it’s also known as the Licensed Vocational Nurse course — and all you need is to be in school for two years, after which the LPN graduates can take the NCLEX and the CGFNS. Well, they’re doing this in Davao City now, and it will soon be available in Cebu City. If and when they pass these exams (which nurses who take the four-year course have to pass, too), then they can apply for jobs in the United States or other countries.

Well, I have always known about the RNs, but we really didn’t know that LPNs existed. So I asked if there is any difference between the two. Howard gave his insights from a study of nursing in the United States. Here are a few differences between LPNs and RNs. Perhaps, because the LPN course is a two-year course in the US, there are fewer LPNs who are immigrants as compared to RNs who mostly come from abroad.

RNs work in hospitals in greater numbers than LPNs. On average, RNs and LPNs work for about the same number of hours per week — between 36 and 38 hours. But here’s the most interesting part: the hourly pay rate of RNs and LPNs increased by 19 percent between 1984 and 2001. LPNs are paid a little lower than RNs, but then that’s because it took the RNs two extra years to be where they are. In short, RNs have certain duties that LPNs cannot do, but the bigger percentage of their workload is very much the same.

Howard puts it quite simply, or should I say, militarily. RNs are the sergeants, while the LPNs are the corporals. Hence, in a squad, we don’t have to be sergeants. Howard only has praises for the quality of nurses from the Philippines, and coming from a former chairman of the CGFNS, that is a very good compliment. But the reason why our RNs get good jobs is simply because there’s really a huge demand for nurses out there so hospitals hire RNs even though they just need LPNs!

No doubt that through the years, nursing has always been known as a four-year course, while only a few people know about LPNs. Well, that would soon change and I reckon that many students would opt to take a two-year LPN course simply because it would cost their parents much less in tuition and more importantly, they can immediately take all the needed exams to get a job in the US or elsewhere. So when LPN grads are in the US, there really is no stopping them from further studying to become RNs. But by then, they would be RN graduates in the US already. So let’s watch the growth and development of LPNs coming from the Philippines.

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Hi All,

Thanks its my first post though ive been reading and learning a lot of valuable inputs. I have to say Suzanne and the rest of the moderators are highly commendable for giving us the right information thanks alot for your hardwork and patience to answer our query.

Im just really really curious like maybe most of those who are interested on this LPN course that is being advertise. You see im an aspiring nurse aswell who wuld like to get the chance to work in US and bring my family, the way the LPN is being presented looks ideal for me and while im still doing research bumped by the fact that its not actually the right course for US nurse aspirant.

Let me just post here an excerpt of the write up from the local paper. I hate to think this is mere publicity and way to lure poor students like me. My heart bleeds...

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CEBU: WANT TO BE A NURSE? YOU CAN TAKE A 2-YEAR COURSE!

CEBU CITY, November 5, 2004 (STAR) INSIDE CEBU By Bobit S. Avila The Philippine Star 11/05/2004

This means parents have to send their children to a four-year college course so they can graduate as registered nurses (RNs). However, when I was in the US, I heard that nursing there is only a two-year course. So it got me into asking: why can't we have a two-year course for nursing here so that we can satisfy the world demand for nurses?

Well, I got my answer a couple of weeks ago when I interviewed on my TV show Arturo Lacuesta, chairman of the board of the Philippine Paramedical and Technical School of Davao, and their consultants, Jake Marques and Gregory T. Howard, chairman of the Standards Committee for Licensed Practical Nurses at the Commission on Graduates of Foreign Nursing Schools (CGFNS) in the US and president of the National Federation of Licensed Practical Nurses in the US, and they have wonderful news for parents who want to send their kids to nursing school, but can ill-afford to pay for their tuition in the next four years.

Howard and Lacuesta suggest that students take what is called the Licensed Practical Nurse (LPN) course-it's also known as the Licensed Vocational Nurse course-and all you need is to be in school for two years, after which the LPN graduates can take the NCLEX and the CGFNS. Well, they're doing this in Davao City now, and it will soon be available in Cebu City. If and when they pass these exams (which nurses who take the four-year course have to pass, too), then they can apply for jobs in the United States or other countries.

Well, I have always known about the RNs, but we really didn't know that LPNs existed. So I asked if there is any difference between the two. Howard gave his insights from a study of nursing in the United States. Here are a few differences between LPNs and RNs. Perhaps, because the LPN course is a two-year course in the US, there are fewer LPNs who are immigrants as compared to RNs who mostly come from abroad.

RNs work in hospitals in greater numbers than LPNs. On average, RNs and LPNs work for about the same number of hours per week-between 36 and 38 hours. But here's the most interesting part: the hourly pay rate of RNs and LPNs increased by 19 percent between 1984 and 2001. LPNs are paid a little lower than RNs, but then that's because it took the RNs two extra years to be where they are. In short, RNs have certain duties that LPNs cannot do, but the bigger percentage of their workload is very much the same.

Howard puts it quite simply, or should I say, militarily. RNs are the sergeants, while the LPNs are the corporals. Hence, in a squad, we don't have to be sergeants. Howard only has praises for the quality of nurses from the Philippines, and coming from a former chairman of the CGFNS, that is a very good compliment. But the reason why our RNs get good jobs is simply because there's really a huge demand for nurses out there so hospitals hire RNs even though they just need LPNs!

No doubt that through the years, nursing has always been known as a four-year course, while only a few people know about LPNs. Well, that would soon change and I reckon that many students would opt to take a two-year LPN course simply because it would cost their parents much less in tuition and more importantly, they can immediately take all the needed exams to get a job in the US or elsewhere. So when LPN grads are in the US, there really is no stopping them from further studying to become RNs. But by then, they would be RN graduates in the US already. So let's watch the growth and development of LPNs coming from the Philippines.

such a shame that things like this are being printed as for immigration to the US you must have a RN a LPN will not do :angryfire

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Julienezz,

You are smart to do your research.

The people opening these new LPN and 2 year programs with the intent of 'helping' students meet US immigration requirements should be ashamed of themselves for swindling poor folks out of their money.

Don't they know that the whole family most of the time chips in to put a student through nursing school?

If a program does not offer you a BSN you will not meet US immigration requirements. Make sure you read this board and ask lots of questions. Always check every rumor you hear.

The US will need nurses for YEARS to come. Don't worry about retrogression, running out of visas or any such thing you may hear. Even if it take you 7 years to finish your BSN, it will be worth it. Slow and steady wins the race.

Good fortune to you...

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Oh My Gosh... I jsut re-read that article you posted.

The "consultants" for this program are two AMERICANS...

Well, I got my answer a couple of weeks ago when I interviewed on my TV show Arturo Lacuesta, chairman of the board of the Philippine Paramedical and Technical School of Davao, and their consultants, Jake Marques and Gregory T. Howard, chairman of the Standards Committee for Licensed Practical Nurses at the Commission on Graduates of Foreign Nursing Schools (CGFNS) in the US and president of the National Federation of Licensed Practical Nurses in the US, and they have wonderful news for parents who want to send their kids to nursing school, but can ill-afford to pay for their tuition in the next four years.

ALERT! UNLESS YOU ARE ALREADY A US CITIZEN OR HAVE A GREEN CARD, THE LPN PATH WILL NOT GET YOU A NURSING JOB IN THE US!!!!

It may take as many as 10-20 years to immigrate on this education!!!

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Perhaps, because the LPN course is a two-year course in the US, there are fewer LPNs who are immigrants as compared to RNs who mostly come from abroad.

This is a very misleading statement (if not fraudulent). The reason why there are fewer LPN's who are immigrants is that you cannot be sponsored as an immigrant with an LPN. You have to be an RN and if from the Philippines with a BSN.

A lot of LPN's are also minorities (African-Americans, Hispanics, and Asians) who are already immigrants before they became LPN's.

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Guys thanks for the comments. The way the whole thing is presented base on the clip, LPN's are the easier path to becoming US nurse for Filipino. It's more dangerous because its being advertise and i bet we even have members here in the forum who are actually enrolled if not planning to enroll on this LPN course with the hope of landing faster job in the US.

This is really alarming!

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Guys im sorry to rubbed it off but here's another confusing lead regarding Information for Internationally Educated Nurse: Becoming a Licensed Nurse in the US issued by National Council of state Board of Nursing NCSBN, this is on pdf form so i coudnt copy and paste it here but you can see the link from below it explains the procedure for both Internationally trained RN and LPN. Though it doesnt tackle the immigration side but more on licensure but does it mean that since it talks about foreign educated LPN , does it also mean that the LPN's are indeed viable for immigration after all? I dont have the answer and i hope to get more of your inputs. Thanks

http://www.ncsbn.org/pdfs/InfoForeignRevised.pdf#search=%22foreign%20LPN%20immigration%20to%20US%22

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Again, there are many that are in the US already with a visa that permits them to work, the green card. Or they could not pass the NCLEX-RN butr could the NCLEX-PN.

Bottom line is that they still had to graduate from a four year degree to qualify for a visa to work in the US, if they did already have one from some other means.

Having a license to work in the US means absilitely nothing. You must have a visa that will permit you to work, and the only one that will get you the visa is the RN after your name, and from the Philippines, it means a BSN after your name. Currently no way around it.

The only back door way and you are then a SLAVE. We actually did away with slavery years ago, but it is alive and well in nursing, there are those that like to sell bodies and could care less about it.

To do things legal, you mut have RN after your name.

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Oh My Gosh... I jsut re-read that article you posted.

The "consultants" for this program are two AMERICANS...

ALERT! UNLESS YOU ARE ALREADY A US CITIZEN OR HAVE A GREEN CARD, THE LPN PATH WILL NOT GET YOU A NURSING JOB IN THE US!!!!

It may take as many as 10-20 years to immigrate on this education!!!

What about ASN? Courses are being offered by the same group saying that ASN or Applied Science in Nursing is equivalent to an RN degree there. Is this true? Most nurses from the Phillippines migrating to the US have a BSN degree not ASN that's why I'm asking. ASN is a new concept here in the Phillippines as well. hope to hear from you soon on this

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