Frontline staff to lose jobs

celticqueen · Mar 25, 2011

This makes me really REALLY mad. The government are morons. Do they honestly think that by cutting front line staff and services that people will stop being ill, or that people will stop having accidents?????? Of course not, so who do they think is going to look after these people when they need to go into hospital????? magical pixie nurses?????? It will only end in disaster when someone dies because there wasn't enough staff to safely look after them; this will only endanger patients. The newspapers will have a field day - patient neglected and starved as no-one available to feed frail elderly patients or give them a drink, patients left in soiled beds, waiting lists so long it wil be near on impossible to get seen...oh wait thats what is happening already!!!!!! And when push comes to shove, who gets the blame for all this? not the government, but the exhausted and disillusioned nurses who try their very best on each and every shift to deliver the best care they can, that's who!

K+MgSO4, BSN · Mar 26, 2011

And people ask me would I go to England if i got a job! Aus may be far away but at least here I have patient ratios and an OK economy.

Just need to get working on instantaneous transportation! being 6ft tall in economy class for 24 hours back to Dublin is NOT fun!

RGN1 · Mar 26, 2011

This makes me really REALLY mad. The government are morons. Do they honestly think that by cutting front line staff and services that people will stop being ill, or that people will stop having accidents?????? Of course not, so who do they think is going to look after these people when they need to go into hospital????? magical pixie nurses?????? It will only end in disaster when someone dies because there wasn't enough staff to safely look after them; this will only endanger patients. The newspapers will have a field day - patient neglected and starved as no-one available to feed frail elderly patients or give them a drink, patients left in soiled beds, waiting lists so long it wil be near on impossible to get seen...oh wait thats what is happening already!!!!!! And when push comes to shove, who gets the blame for all this? not the government, but the exhausted and disillusioned nurses who try their very best on each and every shift to deliver the best care they can, that's who!

Not to mention the numerous studies that have been done that prove there is a direct link between nurse to patient ratio and morbidity/mortality of said patients!

skylark, BSN, RN · Mar 28, 2011

What I don't understand is why there are never cutbacks in Human Resources. I mean, if there are fewer clinical staff being recruited and employed, why do we need them ?!

allnurses Guide · Mar 28, 2011

What I don't understand is why there are never cutbacks in Human Resources. I mean, if there are fewer clinical staff being recruited and employed, why do we need them ?!

Not sure about where you work but every department of the hospitals in the area I work have had cuts, including clinical and administrative posts

ZippyGBR, BSN, RN · Mar 28, 2011

This makes me really REALLY mad. The government are morons. Do they honestly think that by cutting front line staff and services that people will stop being ill, or that people will stop having accidents??????

the Dear Leader ( Bliar) and the Glorious Leader (bottler Broon) are morons, what they did in 13 years of liarbore mis-rule created the unsustainable situation we are in today,

it's the political commissars that suck the funding out of the NHS but management never slim down management they just move people about and make up new jobs about making up new jobs, i forget the exact figures but under the Lairbore regime while numbers of clinicians increased the number and grading of management roles exploded almost exponentially.

Of course not, so who do they think is going to look after these people when they need to go into hospital????? magical pixie nurses?????? It will only end in disaster when someone dies because there wasn't enough staff to safely look after them; this will only endanger patients.

will it ? or is this just a fact that the local councils have will and continue to fail in the provision of fit for purpose social care combined with GPs who are only proactive where there are QOF points to be had create a huge burden of inappropriate admissions and bed blocking ?

The newspapers will have a field day - patient neglected and starved as no-one available to feed frail elderly patients or give them a drink, patients left in soiled beds, waiting lists so long it wil be near on impossible to get seen

perhaps if the matrons took off their clippy cloppy shoes and put down their clipboards and actually fulfilled the parts of their roles that they are meant to do and that require Them to be registered this would not be as much of an issue

...oh wait thats what is happening already!!!!!! And when push comes to shove, who gets the blame for all this? not the government, but the exhausted and disillusioned nurses who try their very best on each and every shift to deliver the best care they can, that's who!

the blame on Nurses comes from the gutter masquerading as mid market press who have a downer on Nurses thanks to the kind of Rubbish that dear old Clare ' i WAS a Nurse ' Rayner and the like spouted based on clinical experience form 50 years ago, plus the Latter Day Lancelot Spratts who were upset that Nurses Dare question their divine rights as Doctors, because after all 'doctor knows best'.

ZippyGBR, BSN, RN · Mar 28, 2011

What I don't understand is why there are never cutbacks in Human Resources. I mean, if there are fewer clinical staff being recruited and employed, why do we need them ?!

HR are an essential support service , the cuts in management need to be

'assistant patient services managers' on band 7

'service management assitants' on bands 5 and 6

i.,e. the clipboard wielding political commissars to ensure that Tractor Production is in line with the five year plan comrade ...

skylark, BSN, RN · Mar 28, 2011

Agreed!

We have lost 9 nursing posts in our dept, and the hospital has closed maternity and paeds and sold out half of A&E to a private company but we are still recruiting assistant departmental managers!

ayla2004, ASN, RN · Mar 30, 2011

Lack of SW is causin delays of 2-3 day from filed section 2 in ppl being assesed, refer any pt nearing but not deemed medically fit and SW closes the case. then we have bed mangers etc saying we need the bed as pt are waiting on ambulances due to bed crissis again. i hear of more of my cohort being affected by ward downsizing shutting

celticqueen · Mar 31, 2011

the Dear Leader ( Bliar) and the Glorious Leader (bottler Broon) are morons, what they did in 13 years of liarbore mis-rule created the unsustainable situation we are in today,
it's the political commissars that suck the funding out of the NHS but management never slim down management they just move people about and make up new jobs about making up new jobs, i forget the exact figures but under the Lairbore regime while numbers of clinicians increased the number and grading of management roles exploded almost exponentially.
will it ? or is this just a fact that the local councils have will and continue to fail in the provision of fit for purpose social care combined with GPs who are only proactive where there are QOF points to be had create a huge burden of inappropriate admissions and bed blocking ?
perhaps if the matrons took off their clippy cloppy shoes and put down their clipboards and actually fulfilled the parts of their roles that they are meant to do and that require Them to be registered this would not be as much of an issue
the blame on Nurses comes from the gutter masquerading as mid market press who have a downer on Nurses thanks to the kind of Rubbish that dear old Clare ' i WAS a Nurse ' Rayner and the like spouted based on clinical experience form 50 years ago, plus the Latter Day Lancelot Spratts who were upset that Nurses Dare question their divine rights as Doctors, because after all 'doctor knows best'.

whose bottler broon?

whatever government are in power, the nhs suffers.

The Thatcher government in the 80's damaged the NHS with the "internal market" privatization debacle, where trusts (or health authorities) were in competition with each other to provide services. The damage that was done at that time had a knock on effect on the way the nhs has been run since.

There have been countless studies that prove high mortality/morbidity outcomes of patients results from poor nurse/patient patio - which is common sense, if there are not enough nurses to look after patients then ultimately the patients suffer. Look at the recent Stafford hospital scandal The report said the trust was short of 120 nurses in 2007 to 2008 - about 17 in A&E, 30 in surgery and 77 on medical wards. In 2006 to 2007 the trust had axed 150 posts - most of them nurses - to meet £10million cost-saving targets.

I must agree with you on the Clare Rayner comment though

julyemrn · Apr 1, 2011

This makes me really REALLY mad. The government are morons. Do they honestly think that by cutting front line staff and services that people will stop being ill, or that people will stop having accidents?????? Of course not, so who do they think is going to look after these people when they need to go into hospital????? magical pixie nurses?????? It will only end in disaster when someone dies because there wasn't enough staff to safely look after them; this will only endanger patients. The newspapers will have a field day - patient neglected and starved as no-one available to feed frail elderly patients or give them a drink, patients left in soiled beds, waiting lists so long it wil be near on impossible to get seen...oh wait thats what is happening already!!!!!! And when push comes to shove, who gets the blame for all this? not the government, but the exhausted and disillusioned nurses who try their very best on each and every shift to deliver the best care they can, that's who!

I AGREE !!!!

ayla2004, ASN, RN · Apr 18, 2011

update

had my aspiration interview and been offered a job on a neurosurgical ward which im ok with. my ward closes within 4 weeks