Mc Donalds pays more for CNA with 8 yrs exp - page 2

:rotfl: I have said it for years now it really happened. I live in WA close to the Seattle area. Moved here from the Midwest about 5 years ago and I even said it back then. You can flip... Read More

  1. by   Mister Chris
    Quote from Rnltc


    I have said it for years now it really happened. I live in WA close to the Seattle area. Moved here from the Midwest about 5 years ago and I even said it back then.
    You can flip hamburgers for the same hourly wage and not have to put up with all the CRAP... :chuckle

    An excellent CNA who has worked at the same nursing home for the last 6-8 years. Just quit and went to work at Mc Donalds for the same amount of money. This is very said and makes me angry.

    How does everyone else feel? Does this happen in your areas as well?
    Yes it is the same here down-under. You could almost survive as a beach bum on the unempoyment benefit as well as an assistant nurse!
    There are a lot of 'unskilled' jobs available that are easier on the body and mind than being an assistant!

    I feel very sad for all the assistants that I work with - the ammount of their pay for the resposible position they work.

    Mister Chris.
  2. by   Alicia18
    Tommybabe, I'm a pretty new CNA, and I can tell you that where I live, at least, CNAs starting work with their license get $8 an hour. More than your quoted price for McDonalds wages
    Hope this helps convince you to stay in the health field...
  3. by   HisHands
    heck, my boyfriend just started his job as a CNA and is making 10.50 - an unheard of amount in our area. McDonalds starting wage - 5.75. I definitely would call that a step up.
  4. by   donmomofnine
    A nursing assistant with eight years experience where I work is paid more than twice what they would make flipping burgers and the ones who just graduate make at least $3 more than at Mickey D's. Let's face it, we are fighting with them for the same pool of workers. We need to acknowledge that nursing assistants have much more responsibility and pay them accordingly!
  5. by   FocusRN
    In my area McDonald's pays the minimum wage ($5.15). Now what CNA's get paid depend on where they work (hospital or LTC), and the employer. Some LTC's pay $5.15, some $5.65 some $5.80 and some a whole $6.00 :chuckle. Hospitals usually pay around $8. It sucks considering we really do hard work. And in the places that I have worked (not to ofend anyone, but this is just what I have seen where I have worked), the CNA's should be getting paid more that most of the LPN's and RN's. That is because where I have worked, we simply did more work, and worked harder. The requirements of the nurses were simple, be on the unit, pass meds, do accu checks, get a doctors order to send a patient to the hospital, and thats all. Now I did state "some nurses" and not all. Because some do more, such as the ones that work in respiratory, and, the wound care nurses. But those are the only exceptions that I have seen.
  6. by   flashpoint
    Quote from New_Mom_LPN_Student
    In my area McDonald's pays the minimum wage ($5.15). Now what CNA's get paid depend on where they work (hospital or LTC), and the employer. Some LTC's pay $5.15, some $5.65 some $5.80 and some a whole $6.00 :chuckle. Hospitals usually pay around $8. It sucks considering we really do hard work. And in the places that I have worked (not to ofend anyone, but this is just what I have seen where I have worked), the CNA's should be getting paid more that most of the LPN's and RN's. That is because where I have worked, we simply did more work, and worked harder. The requirements of the nurses were simple, be on the unit, pass meds, do accu checks, get a doctors order to send a patient to the hospital, and thats all. Now I did state "some nurses" and not all. Because some do more, such as the ones that work in respiratory, and, the wound care nurses. But those are the only exceptions that I have seen.

    More often than not, in health care, we are paid for what we know as well as for what we do. I've been a CNA and I know how physically demanding the job is, but the LPNs and RNs have a much greater liability if something goes wrong, are expected to problem solve and handle emergencies, have a much greated knowledge of disease processes, medications, etc. I don't disagree that in most places CNAs deserve to be paid more, but I doubt that RNs and LPNs would be willing to do what they do for only a few dollars more than the CNAs make...if CNA wages go up, the RN and LPN wages had better go up too. Part of the problem is that there are very few CNAs, RNs, or LPNs who are in in simply for the money...most of us like what we do and are not actively willing to stand up and demand more money...what would a facility do if every CNA went in and demanded more money?
  7. by   UM Review RN
    Quote from New_Mom_LPN_Student
    The requirements of the nurses were simple, be on the unit, pass meds, do accu checks, get a doctors order to send a patient to the hospital, and thats all.
    Thanks, I needed that.
  8. by   boulergirl
    The reality here is that we live in a knowledge-based society nowadays. Employers pay more for education and expertise, not the physical demands of the job. That's why CNAs are paid so little for the backbreaking work they do. I'm starting to understand this (and I am an aide myself).

    Please don't shoot me if I sound ignorant.
  9. by   boulergirl
    I've also noticed that employers tend to pay more when you hold more responsibility (unfortunately, nurses aren't paid nearly enough for the fact that they hold people's lives in their hands).
  10. by   Canadian_Gal
    I am working as a nursing assistant part-time in a LTC facility, as well as a Hospital and my wages are more than fair I think. Being in Canada (Vancouver, BC) I do know that our dollar is not on par with yours (USA) but it's climbing! *LOL* In the private LTC facility I make $17.50 an hour with 6% vacation pay, and 2% stat holiday pay. In the Public Hospital where I work I make $20.76 per hour, 12.2% vacation pay and have eve/weekend/night shift differentials of .75 cents to $1.50. I do not think in my own personal circumstances that I am underpaid. I do think that I am worth every penny of the wage that I earn, and am very happy that I do earn a decent dollar amount. The work as a nursing assistant, is physically very tough, emotionally stressful and can wage war on your back! But all in all, I love what I do and do it for the obvious reason; I am truely conscientious about the well being of those that I care for on a daily basis.


    Quote from New_Mom_LPN_Student
    In my area McDonald's pays the minimum wage ($5.15). Now what CNA's get paid depend on where they work (hospital or LTC), and the employer. Some LTC's pay $5.15, some $5.65 some $5.80 and some a whole $6.00 :chuckle. Hospitals usually pay around $8. It sucks considering we really do hard work. And in the places that I have worked (not to ofend anyone, but this is just what I have seen where I have worked), the CNA's should be getting paid more that most of the LPN's and RN's. That is because where I have worked, we simply did more work, and worked harder. The requirements of the nurses were simple, be on the unit, pass meds, do accu checks, get a doctors order to send a patient to the hospital, and thats all. Now I did state "some nurses" and not all. Because some do more, such as the ones that work in respiratory, and, the wound care nurses. But those are the only exceptions that I have seen.
    Last edit by Canadian_Gal on Feb 12, '05 : Reason: spelling *lol*
  11. by   webblarsk
    CNA's should definitley be paid what they are worth! They should get benefits and a salary that they could actually live off of!
  12. by   FocusRN
    Quote from Angie O'Plasty, RN
    Thanks, I needed that.
    It may be funny to you but that is the sad thing about it. Where I have worked that is all the requirements really were. I don't doubt that is you place of employment things are different, but come take a hope skip and jump down here, and you'd be suprised.
  13. by   FocusRN
    Quote from cotjockey
    More often than not, in health care, we are paid for what we know as well as for what we do. I've been a CNA and I know how physically demanding the job is, but the LPNs and RNs have a much greater liability if something goes wrong, are expected to problem solve and handle emergencies, have a much greated knowledge of disease processes, medications, etc. I don't disagree that in most places CNAs deserve to be paid more, but I doubt that RNs and LPNs would be willing to do what they do for only a few dollars more than the CNAs make...if CNA wages go up, the RN and LPN wages had better go up too. Part of the problem is that there are very few CNAs, RNs, or LPNs who are in in simply for the money...most of us like what we do and are not actively willing to stand up and demand more money...what would a facility do if every CNA went in and demanded more money?
    As someone else said, people are now paid for education, especially in the healthcare industry but not always. And yes, nurses do have more liability, if something goes wrong. With that said they should be making sure that nothing will go wrong, and most that I have seen first hand don't. I work in an Alzhiemer's Unit, the nurse that I usually worked will always went to sleep, without a problem. Well, one day it caught up with here when one of the residents, flipped the switch to unlock the door when she was sleeping, and exscaped into the night. The polic caught up with him about two hours later though. But, did that fall on the nurse? No. It fell on the CNA that was working that side of the unit. And. where was she at the time? At the other end of the hall helping someone that got out of bed and slipped in their urine. That should have fell on the nurse, number one because she has more liability, and even if it was the CNS's fault, she is riding on the nurses lisence anyway, and number two because the nurse was at fault. Another nurse that worked that unit sometimes, just came in, clocked in,made sure everyone was on the unit, left the LTC, and came back at 5 when it was tim to get everyone up.

    Nurse may have a grater knowledge of disease processes, and meds, but the question is do their jobs require them to use this knowledge. And not all of them do. Some nurse that I have seen don't even know not to crush a time release pill. And that is one of the most basic things to know about meds.

    And last but not least, I am not saying that CNA pay should just be $5 away from a nurses pay, because we all should be paid more, (well the good ones atleast). But at the same time, it has to be said that, moving and lifting men and women 3x your size, cleaning up urine and bm, be "housekeeping", and numerous other resposibilities, should be worth more that someone flipping burgers.

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