They didn't make it :(

  1. I'm just getting the bad news from some of my friends who found out on late on Friday that they're being withdrawn from the program. The nursing dept dropped a surprise math exam on all of us at the end of the last lecture, and they didn't pass. They have this rule that math competency quizzes can be given at any time, and you're only allowed to get 10% of the questions wrong, otherwise you have to withdraw from the program and take remedial courses in safety and prevention of medication errors. I feel soooo bad for these guys because I know how hard they've worked to get this far. And even after they get through the remedial stuff, they have to wait until next next spring (if there's space available) before they can apply to continue in the program. Now, that just sucks, doesn't it!!!
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  2. 52 Comments

  3. by   TopCat1234
    that's rough! it's hard to see your classmates gone after working so hard.

    what was on the math competency quiz? was it really hard?

    topcat
  4. by   Tweety
    I'm sorry to hear that. It's tough to watch friends not make it while you move on. But you got to know that math.
  5. by   traumaRUs
    Gosh - sorry about that. I do remember though that we could have those pop quizes about math anytime also.
  6. by   dansamy
    Well, that's just effing great! You mean after we take the stinking all-or-nothing dosage calculation test, we can still be booted for math at any time?!?!? That's really sad for your classmates. I'm sure you're breathing a sigh of relief right about now since you passed it. I'm pretty good in math, but I HATE pop quizzes.
  7. by   Carolanne
    Wow, that seems like a very harsh penalty. I could see maybe having to take a required math class if you didn't do well on the test, but drop the whole program??? I haven't heard of that before.
  8. by   RedSox33RN
    It especially stinks because of the "we'll take you back IF there is a spot". I know around here, none of the programs will have a spot. Too competitive, and if you get dropped for whatever reason, it's as good as being sent to the back of the line.

    I can see the schools point about having to pass with a 90%, but kick them out because of it? What about tutoring and summer classes and the like? It does seem harsh. Maybe not if they failed by a huge margin, but geez, if it's only 10 or 15 points, it seems a shame.
  9. by   Jaded82
    That is pretty harsh! Just curious what school do you go to???
  10. by   lovinghands
    I was thinking the same, what school is this? I'd be checking out grievance procedures if I was dropped from a program based on one pop quiz. Crazy....
  11. by   CarVsTree
    We don't have pop quizzes on math, but med math calc had to be 100% to stay in the program. The rationale is med math must be correct 100% of the time for patient safety.

    I actually think a pop quiz is a good idea, but a re-take would be nice, rather than summarily washing someone from the program.

    Take care.
  12. by   shhh5683
    We have had a few people dropped from our program for the same reason, though our "quizzes" have to be passed with 100%. I cant say i didnt sweat it too, but I understand why they do this. Think about it this way...when you get out of school, the doctor isnt going to tell you "ok, nurse, two weeks from now, youll have to figure out an IV drip rate, so you should probably study up on it". I know its silly to think about it that way, but math is SOOO important in our chosen profession. We did shed tears for those that had to leave...even the teacher that graded some of the quizzes cried with us. Thats a LOT of money and time lost over a silly math quiz, but it would be infinitely worse if instead of failing that quiz, they miscalculated and killed a patient.
  13. by   z's playa
    Crap...I hate math but I see why its important. Where do you go to school? What year would this happen? Anyone?
  14. by   Tx-top nurse
    math is my weakest subject, I was told you had to make yourself learn to love math in order to understand it.
    Sorry about your freinds, you should definitely encourage them to keep on the nursing dept until they land a spot...
    But, I agree with the others on the importance of meds, the tiniest mistake on drug calculations can mean the difference between life and death.
    I know for a fact cause in the program I was in lvn, I was to pull up a certain amount of meds and insert it into an orange, well I pulled it up and began inserting it into the orange and then in front of the whole class the instructor anounced that I had just killed the pt. I asked to leave the room to go to the bathroom, and once I got in there I cried till no more tears would fall, it was the worst experience of my life...
    good luck to you and your freinds.

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