Teachers fueling the "my degree is better than your degree" problem - page 2

I'm in a BSN program. I'm 32, with kids, and a husband who has been super supportive of me taking the longer approach to entering the nursing scene. I also hope to move on to a masters program in the future and don't want to do a... Read More

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    Did your program have a Leadership/ Management clinical? You will move up the clinical ladder professionally faster with a BSN. Nothing wrong with getting ASN before BSN. I applied to ASN programs just in case I did not get into BSN program.

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    I agree. I think my program and the BSN both put a lot of emphasis on med/surg since many new grads start out there, which is good, but it does suck to not get a whole semesters worth of all the specialities out there.
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    Did your program have a Leadership/ Management clinical? You will move up the clinical ladder professionally faster with a BSN. Nothing wrong with getting ASN before BSN. I applied to ASN programs just in case I did not get into BSN program.
    Yes, it does. It also includes a research class, which is the one that this professor teaches. She says the BSN's proficiency in understanding and conducting research is one of the many things that puts us above the ASN. I will say that the program I am in is definitely top notch and rates high in quality. I know it is definitely "all that", not simply because it is a BSN program but because the quality of each class is amazing. No sense in looking down noses, though.
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    Grn Tea's response is so right on - she says very clearly what your instructor is trying to convey, but just may not be as succinct & as clear. And as much as you may not want to hear it, it needs to be said.

    Way back in the dinosaur ages of the 1970s, my BSN instructors expounded with foresight on the future of our BSNs. My ADN (I have an Associate's degree) and that of my ADN and diploma associates were never minimized. But the differences were clearly explained and it has come to pass/come full around. They spoke the truth then, about the current now - and that was in the '70's!!!

    The need for the BSN was the written on the wall then and current instructors are merely re-iterating the state of the nursing profession and the healthcare industries as it is today. It is what it is. Just no mincing the words about it.
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    I can't say I know what you teacher is getting at, but it makes sense. If I were an ADN, I would attempt to bridge to BSN as soon as possible. It's not a matter of which degree makes a better nurse, but rather which degree will give you more opportunities.

    GrnTea:
    Someday soon I'm going to make a GrnTea appreciation thread, lol!
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    I agree that more education is always better. I'm not sure why some people find that idea so offensive. I am very proud of my associate's degree, but I'd be even happier with a master's!
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    If I would of had the choice, I would have went the BSN route but every BSN program in town is at least $50k. I am no longer in my 20's and I have a child. I went the ADN route because I wanted to better our financial position, not put us deeper in debt. My student loan for the ADN is only $3500 and I have already been admitted at Ohio University for the RN to BSN which is the lowest priced program I could find. No instructor should bash any degree. We all have different situations and lives and the goal to be an RN is the same, but we each must go the route that is best for us.
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    Meh, I went the ADN route because it was faster and far cheaper. I wasn't concerned about clinical ladders, I just wanted a job that paid more than $9.00/hour and I needed money. I already have a BSA, so getting another bachelors degree won't be that difficult or time consuming for me. The plan is to start on mine this fall, and I'll be making enough money to actually pay for the degree outright instead of having to rack up even more student loans. What works for someone is what they need to do. If this is your first degree and you don't have the debt I did, then a BSN probably makes more sense, but I had maxed out my grants and was having to pay for this degree with cash and loans, so I did what was most financially sound for me and I don't regret it.
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    I'm the same way. I have no lack of education, so the idea of being a bachelor's degree level nurse wasn't all that important to me.

    The closest BSN program to me is about an hour away (without traffic...so more like 2 hours) and I had a full scholarship for my ADN program. There was no way I could get into debt on top of the inconvenience of commuting and handling 3 little kids, so the ADN was a no brainer for me.

    My program has multiple articulation agreements with RN-BSN programs, so there's no "misconception" that my credits transfer. Graduate in May, start BSN program in June, done in 11 months.

    If both the ADN and BSN were equally accessible to me I definitely would've chosen the BSN, but this was the best choice for my family and I.
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    I'm sure a bsn as a first degree over an adn has a variety of great benefits. the topic however was not that there are things about a bsn that are better than an adn. There's nothing wrong with a teacher saying "look, you're getting a top notch education" the problem and also the subject of the original post was the attitude of a teacher that "you will be a better nurse than your adn counterparts" being instilled into an entire class of new nurses. How will that benefit anyone or anything? How about this attitude instead "you will be better off than you would have been coming out of an adn program" Not the attitude of I'm better than others but the attitude of I'm better than I could have been otherwise. Let's have that instead.
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