Pinning and graduation ceremonies when you didn't pass

  1. My nursing class is graduating this month. It is a new program, and we will be the first graduating class. Our class started with 30 students. 15 students made it to the final quarter, and 13 passed. We are required to take an exit Hesi exam prior to graduating. The school has given the test 3 times, and only 8 out of the 13 students have passed it. Our pinning ceremony is this week, and the school is allowing all of the 13 students to be pinned and march at graduation even though 5 of them have not passed the Hesi and therefore have not fulfilled all of the graduation requirements. As a person who worked my ass off throughout the program and passed the Hesi with flying colors, this upsets me. I know it doesn't personally affect me, but in my opinion it makes a mockery of my ceremony when it involves people who don't deserve it. What are your thoughts?
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  3. by   pookyp
    So you don't think the others 'deserve it' ? That's rude. I say it's not a big deal and worry about yourself.
  4. by   CT Pixie
    My school has nursing classes that start in fall and spring. So the spring starters end up finishing the last class 6 wks after the spring semester ends. Our school allows the Spring starters to walk and participate with the graduation ceremony since they only hold 1 per year. Now, thats all well and fine, but who's to say someone who participates in graduating won't fail the class they have left.

    Honestly, I couldn't care less if they do participate with graduation and end up failing the class. Doesn't affect me in any way. Them participating doesn't 'cheapen' the graduation ceremony for those of us who have taken and passed ALL the required coursework in order to get our degree.

    You have a few students having a hard time with the HESI exit yet have passed every other needed class in order to graduate. Cut them some slack. Let them participate and don't feel they are making a mockery of the ceremony. They aren't. I would much rather have a person who has taken all the required courses and passed but hasn't passed the HESI particpate than someone who hasn't completed all the required classes.

    BTW, how many attempts at the HESI exit can they make? They've given it 3 times so far. Will they allow the other students to continue taking it until they pass it? If that's the case, the school in my opinion doesn't really base passing the program dependent on the HESI being passed.
  5. by   Jennybrie
    I can understand your feelings that you feel the others who did not pass shouldn't walk but that is up to the school to decide. It is possible that the school plans to do remediation for the students who have not passed. Maybe a review coarse or tutoring will help them pass the next exam. Be proud of yourself and focus on passing the NCLEX knowing that the HESI prepared you for what is to come. For the five that (in your opinion) does not deserve to walk with you, try to support them as a fellow nurse and empathize that they will struggle when taking the NCLEX. Graduation is about celebrating personal accomplishments and success in the program. Don't ruin the experience thinking of what the other students did/did not do to get there. Congrats on finishing the program and good luck on your future career.
  6. by   metal_m0nk
    If they pulled through however many years of exams, clinicals, assignments, life rearranging, missing time with family and friends, maybe having to do without and have their children do without because they couldn't hold down a full time job and expect to pass their classes, etc., etc., etc., to say so vehemently that you are certain they don't deserve to be pinned because they didn't pass an exit HESI with flying colors is incredibly insulting, disrespectful, and self-centered.

    You asked, "What are your thoughts." Those are my thoughts.
  7. by   FDW630
    I can see where you're coming from, but it's no different than someone who didn't graduate high school being allowed to walk and receiving a blank "diploma" instead of the real one that those did pass receive. I do agree that it cheapens the experience for those who passed, or it did for me...but it is what it is. I don't agree with it, and I don't think it is rude to feel that way. I don't hold it against the people who get to walk, though, and I would wish them the best.
  8. by   kaydensmom01
    I'm sorry that you feel that way. I do not see how it would cheapen the experience. Do they still have an opportunity to graduate when they pass the HESI? They went through everything that you did; they went to classes, they passed their exams, passed their clinicals, but did not pass the HESI. So they shouldn't be able to have memories of a graduation or pinning ceremony b/c they finished a little later than you? How would you feel if you were in their position, did everything right but then messed up on the exit exam. I am sure that they are under immense pressure, which could be why they passed the nursing classes and then failed the exit exam, and you are making the pressure worse for them. They probably are not feeling any better than you, and you are surely not going to make it any easier on them. To say that they do not deserve it is not true!

    We take a Hesi, but can still graduate if we don't get passing on it, and I would feel horrible for the students that didn't get to graduate b/c they failed one test and would not think any less of them. I would say you need to worry about yourself.
  9. by   elkpark
    Lots of colleges/unis have a policy that you can still march if you have classes to complete/make up and can be finished within the next semester -- if people are that close, they are allowed to participate in the ceremony with their classmates rather than having to wait another entire year and participate with strangers. This sounds like the same idea. If you want to let it bug you, that's your choice, but I don't really see the point ...
  10. by   mseblake
    Just worry about yourself and keep it moving. Dont worry about petty things like this. Congrats by the way
  11. by   psu_213
    Really, don't worry about it. I guess I would have mixed feelings about their participating in the ceremonies. However, at the end of the day, you will have the diploma, and (hopefully with a few months) a license. They won't. If the school has them walk, so be proud of your accomplishments. You know what you achieved and there is a lot more to it than a ceremony.
  12. by   ericaej
    I think it is petty of you to care. Learn to let that stuff go now before you get a job in nursing imho. Didn't nursing school teach you that life isn't always fair?
  13. by   Kimynurse
    As you stated this is a new program, and they are working the kinks out.

    I graduated , and one girl fail the last rotation of clinical, she re did them, but was allowed to get pinned if she wanted, she decided not to go.

    Everyone of our classmates wanted her there.

    Just focus on the amazing accomplishment
  14. by   allisonjdean
    I guess I left out the part of the story where these same students were accused of purchasing test banks from teachers, but the school ultimately could not prove it even though I've heard some of them bragging about it. They get to take the exit an unlimited amount of times. Their official graduation date will be the date they pass the exit. The school paid for a review course for them, and as of this week none of them have passed.

    Ultimately, I had a great time at graduation and pinning. Some of these students were given awards at the pinning ceremony which was annoying, but I know in the end I did it the right way and will make a great nurse. I truly fear for the patients of these cheaters if they ever pass the exit and the NCLEX-RN. If you are willing to take short-cuts in school, then I'm sure you are willing to do the same when you are an RN.