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Our students are asking to be pinned dispite the fact that they haven't passed their hesi yet. They say its not fair since they worked hard all year..but those of us who have passed think that its a... Read More

  1. by   pagandeva2000
    Quote from keshawn4
    My class and I just took a HESI exam April 25th (We were not told about it until January). Out of 31 students only 5 passed and now our school is not allowing us (the 26 remaining students) to graduate on May 12th. We have tried to fight it because it does not seem fair, because they wanted us to retake it May 3rd (Wednesday). The biggest problem is our last final was today so they put the HESI retake off until May 7, 2007 (next Monday). It's still not enough time for us to effectively remediate. To enforce HESI they made it count as 80% of one of our classes (A class that the catalogue says is not required for a degree). With our final exams out of the way we are digging in to cover as much ground as possible in the next few days. WISH US LUCK!! Hopefully class of 2007!!!!
    I am outraged to even hear this garbage.:angryfire :angryfire :angryfire And to make it count for as much as 80% of a class is insane. How can a person be held liable for an exam that doesn't even count in life or can really be an NCLEX predictor?? How horrible. Of course, I hope you all kick butt and do well!
  2. by   pagandeva2000
    Quote from cardiacRN2006
    Actually, I highly doubt that. If students go back and review their orientation materials, they will find that they were informed of the HESI in the beginning.

    Not true, at least over in my neck of the woods. I had a girlfriend going to RN school the same time I attended LPN school and we literally walked each other through this process. We showed each other our school catalogs, etc...and nothing was said about HESI, either on line or any notification that we can see, and they sprung it on her at the last moment as well. I saw her orientation material as well, in fact, she reviewed it again before she had to take the test to see if she had an arguement against it. She wound up taking it and passing it the second time, though.
  3. by   nicuRN2007
    At my school, the Hesi retake is before pinning, so the retakers will know they've passed before pinning.

    However, honestly, I would not give a crap if they walked before passing the Hesi. That doesn't concern me in the slightest. And I hope everyone of them passes. We've all worked hard to get where we are.
  4. by   nicuRN2007
    Quote from keshawn4
    My class and I just took a HESI exam April 25th (We were not told about it until January). Out of 31 students only 5 passed and now our school is not allowing us (the 26 remaining students) to graduate on May 12th. We have tried to fight it because it does not seem fair, because they wanted us to retake it May 3rd (Wednesday). The biggest problem is our last final was today so they put the HESI retake off until May 7, 2007 (next Monday). It's still not enough time for us to effectively remediate. To enforce HESI they made it count as 80% of one of our classes (A class that the catalogue says is not required for a degree). With our final exams out of the way we are digging in to cover as much ground as possible in the next few days. WISH US LUCK!! Hopefully class of 2007!!!!
    May I ask what was considered a passing score on the Hesi for your school?
  5. by   kgkarma
    Quote from dschueler
    LOL!!!

    Thanks, so much!!! Yeah, I am watching my TYPOS too, seems someone is on the bandwagon for perfection??

    ANywho!! I have too much going on in life to worry about the small things!!

    Thanks so much for your reply!! You seem like a sweetie!! I have no idea if the school I am going to attend uses the HESI or not. I am going tomorrow to look at the school.

    Stanbridge in Irvine, CA. I wish I had stayed and finished my RN way back when I was almost 7 months from graduation, but we moved to Germany, and I went with my hubby. Then when we moved back to the states, we went to IL instead of SC again, and all my labs were too old to count, so I hated the idea of re-doing A&P, Micro, and clinicals again....but looks like I will be doing it again now. The LVN ( I am used to LPN) is teh quickest way to get your RN here in SoCal, 1 yr LPN, and then 1.5 yr ADN afterwards, so I plan to go to school back to back, but I might feel like sitting out a year...school just blows, and I am an atypical student, I will be 41 in June!

    I wonder if I am the oldest or near oldest?? SO many of these young 19 yr old girls are sooo immature (some, not all)!! Anyway, I hope you are not 19!! LOL


    Blessings,

    Deb
    I wish I was 41. I'm 63 years young and am doing as well as many of the youngsters. Of course the instructors have no idea how old I am and I look much younger than my age, at least that's what I'm told. It's not that I'm ashame of my age, I just don't want the instructors to think I'm to old and give me a hard time.

    I'm not going to do spell check because my grandmother told me that when I turned 60 I could do and say whatever I wanted to say because I would have earned it. Of course, my granny wasn't in nursing school.
  6. by   kgkarma
    Quote from SAHStudent
    I don't think they are holding people down. I think the pin is a symbol of passing it. If somebody gets it who hasn't passed...then the pin is pointless. We have students with pins that got good grades. They aren't better then me. In fact some stink on the floor yet they get a pin for grades. There is no pin for being a kick butt caregiver on the floor.

    It's a symbol for something specific.
    If they passed the classes they should be able to get pinned. The HESI is to make sure that the school looks good by keeping it's numbers up. We don't have to take the HESI but they strongly encourage us to take the practice NCLEX exam at the end of the semester.
  7. by   kgkarma
    Quote from kiyatylese
    My school allows them to go to pinning. I agree, they have worked hard for it and they deserve it. I just don't know if I would if I didn't pass. I know, that I would not be able to enjoy it at all. During the whole pinning ceremony, I would be thinking what if...(I have to repeat the class).
    Are you saying that you have to repeat the class if you don't pass the HESI? That seems so unfair and it's so expensive to retake a class that you've already passed.
  8. by   S.N. Visit
    Quote from cardiacRN2006
    Actually, I highly doubt that. If students go back and review their orientation materials, they will find that they were informed of the HESI in the beginning.

    I can send you all my orientation materials to be found ...not one person out of the 120 in my class has admitted to seeing it, including me! Our program director announced halfway through our program that they were implementing new tests for our class. It's all new to us and the instructors..
  9. by   jodyangel
    Well the results are in.
    Only 3 people passed the repeat HESI on monday. That leaves 12 who still didn't pass. There were loads of tears that day in the hallway I'm told.
    So they won't get pinned. They now have to take a nclex refresh course and show proof that they took it. They can then retake the hesi in 4 weeks.
    We had one person fail the last semester course and only find out last week. So she's gone too. And they tossed one girl out for "unsafe" practice on the floor.
    Needless to say its been an emotional year..
  10. by   futurecnm
    This may be blunt, but maybe if people don't pass the HESI they shouldn't graduate or pass. This is a big indicator if people are getting what they should be out of school. Granted, it is partially an indicator of the teaching that is being done but also what you are learning. And, if it wasn't in the orientation materials... would people really have not gone thru the program if it was in there? I highly doubt it. People should be passing this test.
  11. by   cardiacRN2006
    Quote from futurecnm
    This may be blunt, but maybe if people don't pass the HESI they shouldn't graduate or pass. This is a big indicator if people are getting what they should be out of school. Granted, it is partially an indicator of the teaching that is being done but also what you are learning. And, if it wasn't in the orientation materials... would people really have not gone thru the program if it was in there? I highly doubt it. People should be passing this test.

    I agree. It sucks, and is a poor reflection of the teacher and school, but it is a straight forward test and should be easily passed. Most of my fellow students didn't even study for it.
  12. by   smk1
    I do have to take issue with an added requirement that counts for 80% of your final grade. If this wasn't listed as a requirement before then it seems a bit shady. It is obvious taht they are just trying to kep their NCLEX pass rates high, but this is kind of unfair to students who are passing the tests and everything else and now will be put on financial aid probation (academics) and their diploma/degree is held up because of this. I am also concerned with the fact taht 12 students failed and only 3 passed on the re-take. Why not have the students take the HESI on the last school break before their graduation as a practice to see where they need to focus attention and improve and then have the real HESI during their last semester count as their final exam. Seems more fair this way.
  13. by   jodyangel
    Well now don't get the two posters mixed up. My school counted the HESI as 60% of our final semester. And yes, last monday most of the students failed again.
    I have to say tho, I take responsibility for my education. I honestly don't give loads of credit to the college for what I've learned this past year. I started on day one to review NCLEX questions on my own. I read after I got home. I did Not think that what I heard in lecture was the end all of what could be learned.
    So when I get pinned on Tuesday, it will be because I took control of my learning experience and I made the effort and I passed!
    Maybe some of these students didn't look at it the same way....?

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