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Our students are asking to be pinned dispite the fact that they haven't passed their hesi yet. They say its not fair since they worked hard all year..but those of us who have passed think that its a priviledge to those who have met the mark.

Does your school allow this?

Specializes in Cardiac.
Not all of the colleges are informing students at the BEGINNING of the program that they will be required to take the HESI.

Actually, I highly doubt that. If students go back and review their orientation materials, they will find that they were informed of the HESI in the beginning.

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Actually, I highly doubt that. If students go back and review their orientation materials, they will find that they were informed of the HESI in the beginning.

Well...not a test but our school threw something at us this year that cost most students $600 and a few $201 and it was NOT in anything they had given us. It is now in their paperwork for upcoming students. We were the first year they were doing this thing and we were blind sighted by it...literally getting a bill on a Friday afternoon with no warning it was coming.

So colleges and schools do surprise students.

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Specializes in ED.
Not all of the colleges are informing students at the BEGINNING of the program that they will be required to take the HESI. To change a policy, mid-program, is wrong. That is why colleges post several years' worth of their catalogs online because which ever catalog that you started with, is the "contract" that they are supposed to honor.

I didn't come up with the term "contract" on my own...that is what the President of our college calls them.

I really don't think people would see that they had to pass a HESI test before the pinning and decide not to go somewhere. I think this is just a policy thing and really...big deal.....

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I really don't think people would see that they had to pass a HESI test before the pinning and decide not to go somewhere. I think this is just a policy thing and really...big deal.....

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My class and I just took a HESI exam April 25th (We were not told about it until January). Out of 31 students only 5 passed and now our school is not allowing us (the 26 remaining students) to graduate on May 12th. We have tried to fight it because it does not seem fair, because they wanted us to retake it May 3rd (Wednesday). The biggest problem is our last final was today so they put the HESI retake off until May 7, 2007 (next Monday). It's still not enough time for us to effectively remediate. To enforce HESI they made it count as 80% of one of our classes (A class that the catalogue says is not required for a degree). With our final exams out of the way we are digging in to cover as much ground as possible in the next few days. WISH US LUCK!! Hopefully class of 2007!!!!

I am outraged to even hear this garbage.:angryfire :angryfire :angryfire And to make it count for as much as 80% of a class is insane. How can a person be held liable for an exam that doesn't even count in life or can really be an NCLEX predictor?? How horrible. Of course, I hope you all kick butt and do well!

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Specializes in Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health.
Actually, I highly doubt that. If students go back and review their orientation materials, they will find that they were informed of the HESI in the beginning.

Not true, at least over in my neck of the woods. I had a girlfriend going to RN school the same time I attended LPN school and we literally walked each other through this process. We showed each other our school catalogs, etc...and nothing was said about HESI, either on line or any notification that we can see, and they sprung it on her at the last moment as well. I saw her orientation material as well, in fact, she reviewed it again before she had to take the test to see if she had an arguement against it. She wound up taking it and passing it the second time, though.

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At my school, the Hesi retake is before pinning, so the retakers will know they've passed before pinning.

However, honestly, I would not give a crap if they walked before passing the Hesi. That doesn't concern me in the slightest. And I hope everyone of them passes. We've all worked hard to get where we are.

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My class and I just took a HESI exam April 25th (We were not told about it until January). Out of 31 students only 5 passed and now our school is not allowing us (the 26 remaining students) to graduate on May 12th. We have tried to fight it because it does not seem fair, because they wanted us to retake it May 3rd (Wednesday). The biggest problem is our last final was today so they put the HESI retake off until May 7, 2007 (next Monday). It's still not enough time for us to effectively remediate. To enforce HESI they made it count as 80% of one of our classes (A class that the catalogue says is not required for a degree). With our final exams out of the way we are digging in to cover as much ground as possible in the next few days. WISH US LUCK!! Hopefully class of 2007!!!!

May I ask what was considered a passing score on the Hesi for your school?

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LOL!!!:lol2:

Thanks, so much!!! Yeah, I am watching my TYPOS too, seems someone is on the bandwagon for perfection??

ANywho!! I have too much going on in life to worry about the small things!!

Thanks so much for your reply!! You seem like a sweetie!! I have no idea if the school I am going to attend uses the HESI or not. I am going tomorrow to look at the school.

Stanbridge in Irvine, CA. I wish I had stayed and finished my RN way back when I was almost 7 months from graduation, but we moved to Germany, and I went with my hubby. Then when we moved back to the states, we went to IL instead of SC again, and all my labs were too old to count, so I hated the idea of re-doing A&P, Micro, and clinicals again....but looks like I will be doing it again now. The LVN ( I am used to LPN) is teh quickest way to get your RN here in SoCal, 1 yr LPN, and then 1.5 yr ADN afterwards, so I plan to go to school back to back, but I might feel like sitting out a year...school just blows, and I am an atypical student, I will be 41 in June!

I wonder if I am the oldest or near oldest?? SO many of these young 19 yr old girls are sooo immature (some, not all)!! Anyway, I hope you are not 19!! LOL

Blessings,

Deb

I wish I was 41. I'm 63 years young and am doing as well as many of the youngsters. Of course the instructors have no idea how old I am and I look much younger than my age, at least that's what I'm told. It's not that I'm ashame of my age, I just don't want the instructors to think I'm to old and give me a hard time.

I'm not going to do spell check because my grandmother told me that when I turned 60 I could do and say whatever I wanted to say because I would have earned it. Of course, my granny wasn't in nursing school. :)

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I don't think they are holding people down. I think the pin is a symbol of passing it. If somebody gets it who hasn't passed...then the pin is pointless. We have students with pins that got good grades. They aren't better then me. In fact some stink on the floor yet they get a pin for grades. There is no pin for being a kick butt caregiver on the floor.

It's a symbol for something specific.

If they passed the classes they should be able to get pinned. The HESI is to make sure that the school looks good by keeping it's numbers up. We don't have to take the HESI but they strongly encourage us to take the practice NCLEX exam at the end of the semester.

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My school allows them to go to pinning. I agree, they have worked hard for it and they deserve it. I just don't know if I would if I didn't pass. I know, that I would not be able to enjoy it at all. During the whole pinning ceremony, I would be thinking what if...(I have to repeat the class).

:uhoh3: Are you saying that you have to repeat the class if you don't pass the HESI? That seems so unfair and it's so expensive to retake a class that you've already passed.

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Specializes in Home Health Care.
Actually, I highly doubt that. If students go back and review their orientation materials, they will find that they were informed of the HESI in the beginning.

I can send you all my orientation materials to be found ...not one person out of the 120 in my class has admitted to seeing it, including me! Our program director announced halfway through our program that they were implementing new tests for our class. It's all new to us and the instructors..

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