Disturbing to anyone else???? NEED HELP. - page 4

Last week in our first 4 hour lecture with our Psych instructor (2nd yr NS) she apologized up front if she offends anyone because she is used to letting the "F" word fly and hopes it won't be a... Read More

  1. by   HvnSntRN
    Check with the Student Union to see if there are regulations on how much break time per hour of class time you are allowed. If your institution is like mine was, the ratio was 10 minutes per hour - or 40 minutes total for a 4 hour class. Maybe you can petition with your class members to have a half-time break of 30 minutes so that everyone can have their coffee / water / bathroom break at a mutually agreeable time, without interruption to class time or breaking rules regarding use of the room.
  2. by   RaeMa
    Quote from firstyearstudent
    Puh-leeze. She sounds like a riot.
    I agree. Teachers like that, usually comes up with some of the most unique ways to help you remember your stuff, and makes it interesting. Guess it depends on your personality. But like the others say, if this is your only problem.. let it go. No one should have to speak for even an hour non stop without even a sip of water.
  3. by   still_learning_in_MI
    As far as the drinks go, every instructor I've had has to give their little speech about having no drinks in the classroom, it's part of the syllabus and a campus rule. But do they enforce it???? Not really.

    Since I have already passed my Psych class, I would have LOVED to learned the SE the way she taught you. Anything to help me learn, and that certainly would have stuck in my head :chuckle .

    BUT, the f-bomb should never fly....

    Good luck!
  4. by   rktele
    She also told us a simple way to remember the SE for cholinergic drugs:

    Can't See
    Can't Pee
    Can't Spit
    Can't Sh*t.

    Thanks- I'll never forget this now!
    Lighten up a bit. Would you speak in front of a group for 4 hours without a drink? I'm lucky to make it 30 minutes. As far as the other students eating and drinking, you are not responsible for them, let the instructor handle it.
  5. by   melpn
    Wait until you get to neuro and learn the 12 cranial nerves- we got an offensive to some, laughable to most mnemonic.OOOTTAFVGVAH. Modesty prevents its posting but suffice it to say it is an oldie developed for then predominately male med students and mentions touching the virgin female. I still remember it though. Don't freak out about the small stuff- nsg school is hard enough.
  6. by   jerimane
    Dear Student,
    I am an experienced nurse and taught 2 years ago-nursing school is difficult-talk with your other students about the situation with your teacher-it is ok to talk to the teacher and tell her that you are offended by her use of profanity and that since the students have been told to not drink in class that the teacher drinking is not appropriate. If the students have been told by don that they can't drink, then you can't-I would first talk with the teacher and tell her that her use of profanity is offensive to you-you are standing up for your principles and values-if you get a bad reply then you can go to the don-without feeling like you are telling on the person-if other students are offended too then all of you can feel comfortable as a group talking to the teacher-not in class-ask for an appointment, and discuss with her in her office-then it is non-threatening, but you are standing up for your values-there is no place anywhere for profanity-I am sure there are rules in the school of nursing or if it is in college against this-this is beyond "academic freedom" Know that you are not the only one probably feeling like this. I agree with you-it is inappropriate and unprofessional. good luck in your career.
  7. by   mslizrn
    Having been a student, staff nurse, and an instructor, I can assure you that your instructor is one of many "Colorful" people you will meet in your travels! I love the pneumonic! My students still call me for guidance 4 years after I quit teaching. I was an instructor who did on occasion let an inappropriate word slip in class, but in the clinical setting, I was always professional, even when provoked. Relax, and realize that our best learning experiences come from behaviors we wish to emulate, and behaviors we wish to avoid.
  8. by   blueheaven
    All I can say is that if that stuff bothers you now...better find another line of work!! I have heard all kinds of language (including being cussed out and called some nasty things in spanish) Gotta apply the "Serenity Prayer". Learn at this early stage of the game how to pick your battles! Some are just not worth it!!!! You can't change someones elses behavior--just your own. I also loved the memonic!!! Mzliz I am glad that you acknowledged that you will meet many "colorful" people in your career! Got that right! Just read some of the other threads!
    Last edit by blueheaven on Sep 8, '06
  9. by   grace90
    Quote from ExTechie
    Can't See
    Can't Pee
    Can't Spit
    Can't Sh*t.
    I love it! Now I won't forget that! This instructor sounds like she'll be great in clinicals, too.
  10. by   Halinja
    I know its been mentioned in this thread once before, but I thought I'd re-mention it, to help avoid confusion. I'm pretty sure that the mnemonic device mentioned refers to ANTIcholinergic drugs.
  11. by   nursenickelmama
    I respectfully disagree to the whole "F" thing being no big deal! She is an instructor and has no business talking that way in lectures of any kind, let alone telling her students that she is going to do just that. She is supposed to be a professional. I would be highly offended and have no respect, as she has shown none by talking that way.
    I don't think the whole issue or the drinking, eating thing is really about the eating and drinking. To me it would be about what was right-the rules per se. If there was no drinking-food of any kind allowed in the room by orders of the DON, then there should be none. Period. Students have to follow the rules and the instructor (if she is a true professional) should too. They would need to take a break for drinks in that case. Sure you are going to have colorful instructors-that's fine, but profanity of any kind has no place in what is supposed to be an ethical profession. Don't they teach ethics-my school does. We can be out for acting unprofessional wherever we go in our personal lives around town. Nurses do need to set an example. Just my personal feelings on the issue. So glad I don't have instuctors like that.
  12. by   porterwoman
    Will you hear that word, and many others like it, again in your nursing career? Why, sure. Do you have every right and even responsibility to politely tell those who say it (including instructors, managers, higher ups, etc.) that you would prefer not to hear it and you find it offensive? Absolutely. In my opinion, that's the most professional thing for you to do.
    I'm sure others have seen this--I'll paraphrase, but somewhere I saw a quotation saying that integrity means maintaining your standards even when others don't.

    Go ahead, maintain your standards and kindly let her know that you would prefer not to hear that word. You may be reminding her of what she already knows--that she is a role model and that she needs to respect her students. And this is coming from one who uses that word a lot. If another nurse requested that I not say it, I'd refrain. It's a matter of respect, and if you demonstrate respect hopefully instructor will follow suit.

    Best of luck through school!!
    Rebecca
  13. by   anichols
    ever consider that it's not unprofessional, but a teaching method in and of itself? psych is famous for cussing patients...and you have to learn to respond without becoming upset yourself. maybe she's trying to get you to where you can not judge others on their language? or to respond in a disapproving way? that, hate to say it, work psych myself--psych tends to have a different mindset and views on "professionalism" (not often are you going to see a med-surg nurse talking calmly to patients about things most of society won't touch with a ten-foot pole!)? we still believe in it, just our professionalism isn't acceptable in, say an office--just can't discuss rape and mutilation while appearing stand-offish. maybe the f-bombs are her way of connecting with her students, to put them at ease, as the majority most likely curse. psych demands rapport of sorts. maybe it is levity, or just honesty. then there's the fact that a prim-and-proper explanation often will totally bomb with a lot of patients--try getting rapport so you can be therapeutic with the high-school drop out stressed and about her nightmares of when she was raped while you sit there saying things like fornicate (which she probably won't understand)...you do not need to be a potty-mouth, nor crude, but sometimes you have to use the slang to get the point across and reach them. as for her drinks...you are overlooking the fact that a lot of talking dries out the mouth and is thus harmful to both her throat and her ability to continue to lecture. or maybe she has high blood sugar and is often thirsty--could be a medical reason for it.... none of this is meant as put-downs towards the o.p., just trying to offer validations...sorry for the long-winded response!

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