Am I an ogre? Or is it just me?

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Alright, after several months of posting here in relative peace, I am now about to have people angry with me. I can feel it coming on....

Is it just me, or are all of these "help me!!" threads really getting on people's nerves? We have so many expert, helpful people here, and I think it's wonderful that everyone is so open and willing to share. And I do think it's appropriate to answer questions as to whether or not someone should enter the nursing field.

But all of these threads where people want them to do their work for them are just really irking me lately!! When the poster wants someone to do the leg work for them, AND THEN POSTS IT IN 8 DIFFERENT FORUMS, is a bit much in my book. And don't give me this "I don't have a creative bone in my body" crap. If you're going to be a nurse, you'd better find out how to be creative, or care delivery is going to be rough. "Please give me an idea for a presentation!" "Please tell me some nursing diagnoses for my care plan." "How do you do a cardiac assessment?" (That one really got me.)

The internet is a fabulous tool (that wasn't in use much when I graduated, and no, this rant is not just because I'm bitter), and this bulletin board is a fantastic forum for sharing. But give me a break. It's great to bounce ideas off one another, but trying to get someone to just do your work for you is taking it a bit too far.

Ok, clearly I need help. This is a Dayray-length post!! Thanks for letting me vent, and I'm ready for whatever wrath may come my way.

Well, just so you all know I'm not a hateful person...

Yes, there is a time and a place. I still feel like a newbie at times, after graduating in '97. And asking clinical questions is great, and completely appropriate. And even bouncing ideas off of each other is not the craziest thing, in my book. But one of my other points (and ya know, I had SO MANY) is...

I understand what you mean about don't open the thread, ignore it. But what prompted this rant in the first place is that I get online and see "Help...I have a problem" in the General Nursing Discussion forum and I click on, thinking it's someone with, say, a clinical question or problem. Turns out, it's a 17 year old high school student trying to get someone to do her homework for her (checked student_nurse17's profile--born in 1985). I guess that's what annoys me the most--I open a thread expecting it to be something else, and it's that.

Karen, I think judging by the rest of the posts in this thread, no one thinks you're a hateful person. I don't, anyway. And after all, isn't that what's really important? ;) :D

Sunny--woot!

Ya know, I was just thinking that....My first thread, and all the heavy hitters are weighing in!!! :D

Love ya guys!

Originally posted by sunnygirl272

right on, sistah!!! can i hear a "woot"?

WOOT! WOOT!

~~~you're not being an Ogre...just recognizing what I am putting up with in nursing school!!

HAHAHA!!!

Thanks for all of the wonderful help you give tho, helps souls like me better understand what it is that we're not hearing in school!!

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I really hate those posts that ask for diagnoses. Another one that really cheesed me off was someone who posted on another nursing site," I need a nurse to help care for my handicapped son when we vacation at the beach...yada, yada, yada." This person was not even a nurse, just trolling around looking for a private duty nurse. I had to sit on my hands to keep from just going nuts.

I don't mind helping someone think through a problem, e.g. giving hints/suggestions, but just recently someone posed a question, and when I suggested thinking through a couple of things, got a really whiney "poor me, my life is so hard, I'm a new nursing student..." Well, BOO HOO...there was no freakin' internet when I was a student. You hauled your butt to the medical library and LOOKED IT UP!

Sometimes students need to take a little responsibility...getting info takes work, it's not an entitlement. Thinking things through, doing research...that's how you develop critical thinking skills.

Specializes in critical care, med/surg.

Can I say something from the "student" side of the fence? Since I've been coming to this site, I've asked one question about a clinical project, which I posted in the appropriate area (OB-GYN). I can not speak for others, but being a cardiac nurse, I was just trying to get some ideas of what OB nurses would find as an interesting topic for this project. Some of the return postings I got were things like "try google.com" and "there are wonderful search engines to use".........I was not trying to find someone to DO my work for me, just some good ideas that would make my report something that would be interesting to learn about, and interesting for my classmates to learn about. I can say that for myself, I do not want or expect ANYONE do to my work for me. I thought that such a diverse group of nurses could bounce back some ideas for me........I'm not sure about how other students are posting these threads, but I'm sorry if I offended anyone by asking for some "ideas".

Originally posted by TeleNurse_02

Can I say something from the "student" side of the fence? Since I've been coming to this site, I've asked one question about a clinical project, which I posted in the appropriate area (OB-GYN). I can not speak for others, but being a cardiac nurse, I was just trying to get some ideas of what OB nurses would find as an interesting topic for this project. Some of the return postings I got were things like "try google.com" and "there are wonderful search engines to use".........I was not trying to find someone to DO my work for me, just some good ideas that would make my report something that would be interesting to learn about, and interesting for my classmates to learn about. I can say that for myself, I do not want or expect ANYONE do to my work for me. I thought that such a diverse group of nurses could bounce back some ideas for me........I'm not sure about how other students are posting these threads, but I'm sorry if I offended anyone by asking for some "ideas".

Excellent post TeleNurse! Point taken!

But please see our side of it too. There are almost 25,000 members here now. What percentage of those are students? If each of them asks just once for an idea, suggestion, etc..... just understand how that begins to feel for us.

Heather

Stargazer,

Did you prefer natural or minted?:chuckle

Specializes in Home Health.

Telenurse_02...agree w Heather PLUS yu have posted and participated here in other areas of the bb, sometimes these posts are people who only post once and never even come back to say thanks for the ideas, like someomn else mentioned.

(Besides, as a cardiac nurse myself, and a nurse who stays away from OB/GYN lie the plague, I KNOW you weren't talking about me dissing ya ;) )

Specializes in critical care, med/surg.

Heather-

I understand where you are coming from too...just wanted to stand up for the students/continuing ed nurses.......I know how frustrating it can get:devil: Being a LPN, continuing on for ADN, work, school, kids........with all of these things going on, I think sometimes we underestimate the power of our words, and people can take how we say things the wrong way(asking for help in the "wrong" sense of the word)..............I love everyone on this website, and am glad that we can talk about these things without having a "catfight". But people who ask questions every five minutes about things that they could have just as easily looked up themselves is quite annoying. Maybe we should just ignore those types of posts.

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.
Originally posted by TeleNurse_02

Heather-

I understand where you are coming from too...just wanted to stand up for the students/continuing ed nurses.......I know how frustrating it can get:devil: Being a LPN, continuing on for ADN, work, school, kids........with all of these things going on, I think sometimes we underestimate the power of our words, and people can take how we say things the wrong way(asking for help in the "wrong" sense of the word)..............I love everyone on this website, and am glad that we can talk about these things without having a "catfight". But people who ask questions every five minutes about things that they could have just as easily looked up themselves is quite annoying. Maybe we should just ignore those types of posts.

Understand. But like I said, students having access to internet resources have a lot more than to go on then I ever did in school, and yet I made it w/o having to get others to tell me where to go. And yes, I suffered the frustrations of all-nighters writing care plans, doing reports, yada yada while raising a family with a miltary husband who was not home half the time to help me w/the kid. However, That is what nursing is; critical thinking (hate or love the term, it's true) and figuring things out and working against unbelievable adversity just trying to get your job done. When I point someone in the right direction, I don't expect back yet ANOTHER question about what/where/how ....it's up to them.

I am not lumping all students together...just as you would not lump all responding nurses together. It just has gotten really out of hand lately, and tiresome. Guess it's the old case of the old nurse kinda like the older person who says: "well back in the day when I walked to school for 3 miles in 4 feet of snow...etc" .......we can forget how tough it can be, sometimes. Its tough on both sides, really.:kiss

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