Would you seriously consider quitting nursing - page 7

if you were treated badly--yelled at, disrespected, verbally abused--by the doctors you work with? How does this treatment affect you? Does it affect patient care?... Read More

  1. by   cannoli
    Quote from BekkaLass
    ...I am definitely considering leaving nursing. I have been a nurse for over 28 years..I quit a job in August because of the office politics ands favoritism and other problems(Too much work, too little respect). I went to another hospital in our area, not alot of difference just fewer patients but with that fewer nurses to do the work so it wasnt that much of a change. Then something happened last week, I was assaulted by a patient. This patient was an "overdose" he had alcohol on board as well but his level was NOT high, plus we were unsure of the "drugs" he took, supposedly Valium(6 pills), however he had been very cooperative throughout the iv, ng charcoal, etc... then his girlfriend came in agitated him(i asked her to leave til he calmed down and told her i would then let her return)..as soon as she left he went beserk..hitting me several times in the head neck and shoulder..as I yelled for help...once the Male tech got there he continued to hit at me but did not offer to hit the tech :angryfire ...ofcourse he then calmed down and we restrained him, then he apologized to me(so he knew what he was doing).I have been spit on, hit,kicked ,scratched, threatened, bit, & cussed out through the years but this was the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back ( am not an anxious person, Ive worked the ER over 16 years) and cant sleep since this happened and Ive had anxiety attacks. Unfortunately the "bad" behavior of patients and families have escalated over the years and I am tired of the physical and verbal abuse by patients, families and even doctors. I plan on moving to the UK this year, my husband is scottish and we are returning there, and i may work part time as a nurse but he says I dont have to if i dont want to. I plan on quitting this job in July and i think it is sad that it has come to this, but for my sanity and health i think it is for the best.
    I'm sorry that happened to you. You said he knew what he was doing, I hope you pressed charges, if not, I hope you do now.
  2. by   live4today
    at the last hospital where i worked, physicians actually showed respect to the nurses. they knew my name, and called me by name. they were kind and respectful. i never heard one yell, or make demands of the nurses. their approach was always in a polite manner. i have no idea how they were to nurses on other units, but on my unit they were great!!! never in almost 18 years of nursing have i ever worked where physicians were so kind.
  3. by   lifeisbeautiful
    I am seriously considering leaving Nursing. I would like to open a coffee shop or return to school to obtain a skill like a plumber, surveyor or electrician.
    I work on the PACU at the moment and there are a few Physicians that are verbally abuse, throw tantrums, etc., but I seem to have an even bigger problem with how Nurses treat other Nurses. I have had many different non-nursing jobs over the years and I have to say, the Nursing profession seems to be the worst as a far as not supporting each other. I even notice that on this board. Someone posts an opinion and idea and within a post or two, someone has to step in and shred it to pieces. Of course it is human to disagree with others, but I find that the way Nurses do it is in a class of it's own. Why is this? When I obtained my degree in Psychology I had many seminars and classes with people and we really supported one another. In Nursing school, there seemed to be a large group that competed with everything. Dog forbid you missed something in a lecture because if you asked to look at someone's notes, most people didn't want to share it. It was as though they wanted you to fail.
  4. by   Antikigirl
    Oh heck yes I have considered leaving nursing, and when I can find a way to do it and still find a job that makes the same amount of money to support my family I will leave nursing and never regret the choice or time I was a nurse.

    It isn't so much that I dislike the profession as much as I have found that my skills and characteristics could better serve people in a different form, and make me feel more satisfied with myself as a professional. I found that after doing this, that there was parts of me I didn't know existed that were liberated by becoming a nurse, parts of my family and friends that opened up as a result of me making my goals happen, and I feel the deep desire to pay more attention to those wonderful areas of my life.

    I found that being a nurse leaves me with a feeling of always having my tasks incomplete...no real way to look back at and end an see the results of my labors. Sure, you can see someone recover and go home, or even watch someone have a healthier life because of your help...but nothing I can take home with me and show my family..or even technically talk about because of confidentiality. I can't come home from a day with a product of my labor..only exhaustion most times, and a feeling of 'what didn't I do' or "oh man I forgot to do this"...and it is less than satisfying for me. I always feel I have left something undone, no matter what I do to stop that!

    I took up gardening for this reason...a way to see that I can actually touch a life form and have a end result I can see when I come home...and even when winter comes, a finality to my labors. Plants didn't yell at me when I did my best to jump through hoops to help them, I could always get a hold of another gardener or look up things I can do on the internet, I didn't have to stroke the ego of mother nature to have things go right, and I didn't have to explain myself or what I was doing every moment to my plants! And, lol..if I killed a plant I didn't get in trouble! LOL!

    I found that as a nurse I quit hugging as much as I once did, ask my child who is complaining of a tummy ache his bowel patterns and if there is any seen blood in his stools, scan my loved ones for skin issues if I see bare skin, get impatient with my family if they don't say what they need to in short to the point sentences, don't feel free to answer my phone out of fear of being called in, always feeling rushed, and always feeling that if I don't do everything it won't get done or done right.

    I had to joke the other day with some other nurses that when I was working as a hostess in a restuarant (back when I was 18) that I declined a waitstaff position because I didn't want to go running around all day tending to a bunch of folks needs at one time...Yeah okay, I guess I should have remembered that in nursing school huh! LOL!

    But then I remember that I wasn't making much money, or even really respected..but I was happy just being helpful and friendly and myself! And there are more days that not I wish to be back to that peaceful bliss of NOT knowing all this medical information I have swirling in my brain..back in the days when I didn't know the difference between a kidney or liver...that ibuprophen is advil...or what a festering necrotic wound looks and smells like! I never saw a dead body, or a dying person...I never had to suction a throat, give a tap water enema, insert a catheter, save poop for a hemocult test, and never had to tell a family member to their face that their loved one had just hours left.

    But I achieved a goal of becoming a nurse, which is a wonderful thing! I have helped so many people when they needed it most..and really proved to myself and all I know that if I set my mind to something..I will not only do it, but do it extremely well! That I was smarter than people in my past gave me credit for! And most importantly, because I am a nurse, I saved my husband from his heart attack by being calm and not taking his symptoms lightly (which I might have done if I didn't know...I would have believed him that his chest pain was gas!).

    It has been an interesting trip, but I guess there is a part of me that feels..okay time to move on to other adventures that are more geared towards myself and my family! Now that I have been in the midst of all things that can happen to my loved ones, I think I want time to just BE with my loved ones and hold them tight and not forecast or see images in my head of patients or conditions I have seen that day! To just spend a day at work, and be truly able to leave it at work!!!!

    Trick is now...what job will I pick....
  5. by   BekkaLass
    TriageRN hun you said a mouthful and I totally agree. Hope you find a wonderful alternative job that fits your lifestyle completely. God Bless!
  6. by   dgregoire
    Quote from Angie O'Plasty, RN
    if you were treated badly--yelled at, disrespected, verbally abused--by the doctors you work with?


    How does this treatment affect you? Does it affect patient care?
    Yes, I have been belittled by MD's...one in particular who thought she was GOD called the CEO in the middle of the night to complain about me.....reason.....I had 13 patients, 1 crashing and 2 terminal and this doc didn't feel like coming in to do her rounds so I basically told her I didn't have time to do her job and mine too....she was livid and boy did I get an earful, not just from her....who suddenly found the time to come to the unit and track down the "horrible" nurse, but then also by the CEO who arrived shortly after. I stood my ground, but after 5 years in the hospital felt I had enough experience under my belt and have done community nursing.....still stressful at times, but there is a lot more respect and abilitly to do the nursing I wanted to when I first started....hands on and LOTS of compassion. There are times though when I do admit that you feel burned out because you are constantly giving and caring and draining yourself emotionally. Especially with me being single and no family to bounce stuff off. Nurses are definitely special people.....but I know I have changed in my 13 years and have some what harden, which really makes me sad.
  7. by   mickeymouse1205
    Triage RN,
    You can try leaving bedside nursing. Look up insurance companies in your area, doing prior auths etc. It is not case management which is soooo much work. I'm only an LPN not RN and I did this for 1 yr, I actually liked my job again. You need your knowledge to review the cases, you decide if its a covered benefit and the beneficiary meets criteria or you send to the medical director and let him/her decide. VERY LITTLE stress. The company relocated to California, thats the only reason I left. Now I'm doing defense auditing, basically defend the hospitals against the insurance company. Also an interseting job. They both keep your knoweldge up and active. Because you must understand what the MD is asking for or saying and must understand everything involved to make the decisions. Look into it. I don't think I would ever go back to LTC or hospital nursing again. Might consider some home care PRN to get in some clinical time with the patients. Think about it.

    Cheryl
  8. by   dustydog
    I totally agree, Lifeisbeautiful.
  9. by   stkates
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    Quote from TriageRN_34
    Oh heck yes I have considered leaving nursing, and when I can find a way to do it and still find a job that makes the same amount of money to support my family I will leave nursing and never regret the choice or time I was a nurse.

    It isn't so much that I dislike the profession as much as I have found that my skills and characteristics could better serve people in a different form, and make me feel more satisfied with myself as a professional. I found that after doing this, that there was parts of me I didn't know existed that were liberated by becoming a nurse, parts of my family and friends that opened up as a result of me making my goals happen, and I feel the deep desire to pay more attention to those wonderful areas of my life.

    I found that being a nurse leaves me with a feeling of always having my tasks incomplete...no real way to look back at and end an see the results of my labors. Sure, you can see someone recover and go home, or even watch someone have a healthier life because of your help...but nothing I can take home with me and show my family..or even technically talk about because of confidentiality. I can't come home from a day with a product of my labor..only exhaustion most times, and a feeling of 'what didn't I do' or "oh man I forgot to do this"...and it is less than satisfying for me. I always feel I have left something undone, no matter what I do to stop that!

    I took up gardening for this reason...a way to see that I can actually touch a life form and have a end result I can see when I come home...and even when winter comes, a finality to my labors. Plants didn't yell at me when I did my best to jump through hoops to help them, I could always get a hold of another gardener or look up things I can do on the internet, I didn't have to stroke the ego of mother nature to have things go right, and I didn't have to explain myself or what I was doing every moment to my plants! And, lol..if I killed a plant I didn't get in trouble! LOL!

    I found that as a nurse I quit hugging as much as I once did, ask my child who is complaining of a tummy ache his bowel patterns and if there is any seen blood in his stools, scan my loved ones for skin issues if I see bare skin, get impatient with my family if they don't say what they need to in short to the point sentences, don't feel free to answer my phone out of fear of being called in, always feeling rushed, and always feeling that if I don't do everything it won't get done or done right.

    I had to joke the other day with some other nurses that when I was working as a hostess in a restuarant (back when I was 18) that I declined a waitstaff position because I didn't want to go running around all day tending to a bunch of folks needs at one time...Yeah okay, I guess I should have remembered that in nursing school huh! LOL!

    But then I remember that I wasn't making much money, or even really respected..but I was happy just being helpful and friendly and myself! And there are more days that not I wish to be back to that peaceful bliss of NOT knowing all this medical information I have swirling in my brain..back in the days when I didn't know the difference between a kidney or liver...that ibuprophen is advil...or what a festering necrotic wound looks and smells like! I never saw a dead body, or a dying person...I never had to suction a throat, give a tap water enema, insert a catheter, save poop for a hemocult test, and never had to tell a family member to their face that their loved one had just hours left.

    But I achieved a goal of becoming a nurse, which is a wonderful thing! I have helped so many people when they needed it most..and really proved to myself and all I know that if I set my mind to something..I will not only do it, but do it extremely well! That I was smarter than people in my past gave me credit for! And most importantly, because I am a nurse, I saved my husband from his heart attack by being calm and not taking his symptoms lightly (which I might have done if I didn't know...I would have believed him that his chest pain was gas!).

    It has been an interesting trip, but I guess there is a part of me that feels..okay time to move on to other adventures that are more geared towards myself and my family! Now that I have been in the midst of all things that can happen to my loved ones, I think I want time to just BE with my loved ones and hold them tight and not forecast or see images in my head of patients or conditions I have seen that day! To just spend a day at work, and be truly able to leave it at work!!!!

    Trick is now...what job will I pick....
    Triage RN, I could have sworn I was reading my autobiography as I read your submission. I sense the depth of your compassion fatigue; the feelings you express seem so familiar. I, too, can recall longing for the "ignorance is bliss" days. Couldn't I please just go back to the days when I knew nothing firsthand about the suffering of others? Some days were almost unbearable. I have had the good fortune, though, throughout my life of connecting with many kind and supportive people, none the least of which is my spouse. After 17 years spent in various capacities as a nurse, I became a nurse educator. From Day 1 of my new position, I felt as if my soul had awakened--that I even had a soul to begin with--and I had discovered what I truly wished to do for my life's work. It's difficult to describe, but I feel as if, after years of being away, I finally stepped back into my life. I wish the same good fortune for you as well.
  10. by   mattsmom81
    Quote from cannoli
    I'm sorry that happened to you. You said he knew what he was doing, I hope you pressed charges, if not, I hope you do now.
    Me too. I'm so sorry this happened to you and can relate well to how you are feeling. Most importantly, enjoy yourself, heal, and feel better in UK with your DH.
    Last edit by mattsmom81 on Jan 7, '05
  11. by   mattsmom81
    Quote from stkates
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    Triage RN, I could have sworn I was reading my autobiography as I read your submission. I sense the depth of your compassion fatigue; the feelings you express seem so familiar.
    ITA. You described very well how so many nurses feel after some time in the trenches. I am battle weary as well. Take care of yourselves nurses. ((HUGS)) to all here.
  12. by   UM Review RN
    I even notice that on this board. Someone posts an opinion and idea and within a post or two, someone has to step in and shred it to pieces.
    Is it possible you're referring to posts on another thread? I have not seen any instance of anyone's opinions or ideas "being ripped to shreds" anywhere on this site.

    The moderators on this board are quite good about keeping the flaming down here, unlike some other boards I have visited. If you feel that you have been flamed, please report it.
  13. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    Quote from SmilingBluEyes
    I am seriously quitting bedside nursing for many reasons but it boils down to one simple point:

    I can't be the nurse I entered the profession to be.

    Too many many constraints on my time at the bedside due to increasing paperwork (despite computerization of charting and med administration)----and too much verbal and passive-aggressive abuse from some physicians and certain coworkers----well, ya know what, it adds up to quite a bit of frustration and a block to my being the nurse I intended to. I am seriously considering my options nowadays. And very sad about this, as I truly love nursing..................

    the way it should be, anyhow.

    Same here, SBE. I am traveling right now but hve been trying to get out of nursing for awhile.
    Basically, to put it bluntly, the siituation for nurses sucks.

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