Would you seriously consider quitting nursing

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if you were treated badly--yelled at, disrespected, verbally abused--by the doctors you work with?

How does this treatment affect you? Does it affect patient care?

Triage RN,

You can try leaving bedside nursing. Look up insurance companies in your area, doing prior auths etc. It is not case management which is soooo much work. I'm only an LPN not RN and I did this for 1 yr, I actually liked my job again. You need your knowledge to review the cases, you decide if its a covered benefit and the beneficiary meets criteria or you send to the medical director and let him/her decide. VERY LITTLE stress. The company relocated to California, thats the only reason I left. Now I'm doing defense auditing, basically defend the hospitals against the insurance company. Also an interseting job. They both keep your knoweldge up and active. Because you must understand what the MD is asking for or saying and must understand everything involved to make the decisions. Look into it. I don't think I would ever go back to LTC or hospital nursing again. Might consider some home care PRN to get in some clinical time with the patients. Think about it.

Cheryl

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I totally agree, Lifeisbeautiful.

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Oh heck yes I have considered leaving nursing, and when I can find a way to do it and still find a job that makes the same amount of money to support my family I will leave nursing and never regret the choice or time I was a nurse.

It isn't so much that I dislike the profession as much as I have found that my skills and characteristics could better serve people in a different form, and make me feel more satisfied with myself as a professional. I found that after doing this, that there was parts of me I didn't know existed that were liberated by becoming a nurse, parts of my family and friends that opened up as a result of me making my goals happen, and I feel the deep desire to pay more attention to those wonderful areas of my life.

I found that being a nurse leaves me with a feeling of always having my tasks incomplete...no real way to look back at and end an see the results of my labors. Sure, you can see someone recover and go home, or even watch someone have a healthier life because of your help...but nothing I can take home with me and show my family..or even technically talk about because of confidentiality. I can't come home from a day with a product of my labor..only exhaustion most times, and a feeling of 'what didn't I do' or "oh man I forgot to do this"...and it is less than satisfying for me. I always feel I have left something undone, no matter what I do to stop that!

I took up gardening for this reason...a way to see that I can actually touch a life form and have a end result I can see when I come home...and even when winter comes, a finality to my labors. Plants didn't yell at me when I did my best to jump through hoops to help them, I could always get a hold of another gardener or look up things I can do on the internet, I didn't have to stroke the ego of mother nature to have things go right, and I didn't have to explain myself or what I was doing every moment to my plants! And, lol..if I killed a plant I didn't get in trouble! LOL!

I found that as a nurse I quit hugging as much as I once did, ask my child who is complaining of a tummy ache his bowel patterns and if there is any seen blood in his stools, scan my loved ones for skin issues if I see bare skin, get impatient with my family if they don't say what they need to in short to the point sentences, don't feel free to answer my phone out of fear of being called in, always feeling rushed, and always feeling that if I don't do everything it won't get done or done right.

I had to joke the other day with some other nurses that when I was working as a hostess in a restuarant (back when I was 18) that I declined a waitstaff position because I didn't want to go running around all day tending to a bunch of folks needs at one time...Yeah okay, I guess I should have remembered that in nursing school huh! LOL!

But then I remember that I wasn't making much money, or even really respected..but I was happy just being helpful and friendly and myself! And there are more days that not I wish to be back to that peaceful bliss of NOT knowing all this medical information I have swirling in my brain..back in the days when I didn't know the difference between a kidney or liver...that ibuprophen is advil...or what a festering necrotic wound looks and smells like! I never saw a dead body, or a dying person...I never had to suction a throat, give a tap water enema, insert a catheter, save poop for a hemocult test, and never had to tell a family member to their face that their loved one had just hours left.

But I achieved a goal of becoming a nurse, which is a wonderful thing! I have helped so many people when they needed it most..and really proved to myself and all I know that if I set my mind to something..I will not only do it, but do it extremely well! That I was smarter than people in my past gave me credit for! And most importantly, because I am a nurse, I saved my husband from his heart attack by being calm and not taking his symptoms lightly (which I might have done if I didn't know...I would have believed him that his chest pain was gas!).

It has been an interesting trip, but I guess there is a part of me that feels..okay time to move on to other adventures that are more geared towards myself and my family! Now that I have been in the midst of all things that can happen to my loved ones, I think I want time to just BE with my loved ones and hold them tight and not forecast or see images in my head of patients or conditions I have seen that day! To just spend a day at work, and be truly able to leave it at work!!!!

Trick is now...what job will I pick....

Triage RN, I could have sworn I was reading my autobiography as I read your submission. I sense the depth of your compassion fatigue; the feelings you express seem so familiar. I, too, can recall longing for the "ignorance is bliss" days. Couldn't I please just go back to the days when I knew nothing firsthand about the suffering of others? Some days were almost unbearable. I have had the good fortune, though, throughout my life of connecting with many kind and supportive people, none the least of which is my spouse. After 17 years spent in various capacities as a nurse, I became a nurse educator. From Day 1 of my new position, I felt as if my soul had awakened--that I even had a soul to begin with--and I had discovered what I truly wished to do for my life's work. It's difficult to describe, but I feel as if, after years of being away, I finally stepped back into my life. I wish the same good fortune for you as well.

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I'm sorry that happened to you. You said he knew what he was doing, I hope you pressed charges, if not, I hope you do now.

Me too. I'm so sorry this happened to you and can relate well to how you are feeling. Most importantly, enjoy yourself, heal, and feel better in UK with your DH. :)

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Triage RN, I could have sworn I was reading my autobiography as I read your submission. I sense the depth of your compassion fatigue; the feelings you express seem so familiar.

ITA. You described very well how so many nurses feel after some time in the trenches. I am battle weary as well. Take care of yourselves nurses. ((HUGS)) to all here.

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I even notice that on this board. Someone posts an opinion and idea and within a post or two, someone has to step in and shred it to pieces.
Is it possible you're referring to posts on another thread? I have not seen any instance of anyone's opinions or ideas "being ripped to shreds" anywhere on this site.

The moderators on this board are quite good about keeping the flaming down here, unlike some other boards I have visited. If you feel that you have been flamed, please report it.

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I am seriously quitting bedside nursing for many reasons but it boils down to one simple point:

I can't be the nurse I entered the profession to be.

Too many many constraints on my time at the bedside due to increasing paperwork (despite computerization of charting and med administration)----and too much verbal and passive-aggressive abuse from some physicians and certain coworkers----well, ya know what, it adds up to quite a bit of frustration and a block to my being the nurse I intended to. I am seriously considering my options nowadays. And very sad about this, as I truly love nursing..................

the way it should be, anyhow.

Same here, SBE. I am traveling right now but hve been trying to get out of nursing for awhile.

Basically, to put it bluntly, the siituation for nurses sucks.

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First, let me say that I have been in the profession for 30 years this June. Second, let me add that I have NEVER been disciplined or written up or had even one incident report written on me regarding a med error, an error in providing safe patient care, nor have I ever been guilty of making any mistakes. And for 24 of those years my record has been spotless. In 1999, however, I took a position at a very tiny hospital because it was less than one mile from the home we had just purchased. I had worked there previously on a PRN, but rare basis. The hospital had 20 med/surge beds, an ob unit which has since closed, and an ER . They were still on 8 hr shifts at the time. I worked nights with one of the 2 other Night Shift RNs. One, a male named James (not his real name) had begun his career as first an EMT, then a Paramedic, then an LPN, and finally had gotten his RN 10 years ago. He had been working for this hospital in one capacity or another for 10 years and had known everyone prior as an Paramedic before them. The other night nurse, Roseanna (a pseudonym as well), was a nurse who had come to the hospital a new RN 2 years prior and had had no previous medical experience prior to getting her RN. When I worked with James, he would take some patients and when someone came into the ER, I would "cover" his patients and we had a CNA as well who would help me answer lights. When I worked with Roseanna, I would work the ER and she would cover my patients. Although I had worked with James when I had worked PRN and we had had a good rapport, when I went part time regular at 32 hrs, he began to make it apparent that I had not been his choice for the position. I was hired by the Nurse Manager because she was "trying to beef up the unit with more experienced RN's; right now the only RN with more than 3 years experience is James and ALL BUT ONE have come here as new grads from the Community College and have little or no clinical experience in routine procedures." I later learned that James had had a hand in choosing nurses to fill each position that came open, and he chose the ones he got to know when they came to get their clinicals in on the night shift during he would "mentor" them. One night when I was working with him and we were sitting at the desk, he said, "I'd much rather get a new grad who hasn't developed a lot of bad habits than a so called 'seasoned RN' that thinks she knows everything". This comment made after I had made up a "hot pack" for warm moist heat by using a wet towel wrapped in a blue plastic chux that I had heated in the microwave; James nixed that idea by stating that " we don't do things like that here; what if a code was called and it caught on fire when you left it?" I could not believe that he wasn't aware that this is an accepted method of preparing a warm,moist heat pack when a K-pad is unavailable.There was no doctor in house on weekends; just a PA who was good but who was unskilled at intubation. During the week, the doctor went home at 2300 and would come when the ER nurse called him to see a patient. James often intubated "coding" patients if they were not brought by Paramedics so the hospital found his additional skill to be invaluable. I had never worked in an ER where we had to initiate the Medicaid approval, call the PCP's on certain groups and I got NO help in orientation on these things. My orientation consisted of the usual general safety training: fire extinguishers, lifting and bending correctly but NO NURSING ORIENTATION. I was told that an Orientation Packet was being revised. I never saw it in in the year and a half that I was there. The other nurse, Roseanna, who also worked nights and occasionally ER, said she hated to because she felt incompetent in that area; she had no more to offer me as far as protocols either. One night a 48 year old woman with benign history said she had eaten dinner at a restaurant about 2 hours ago and was having some gastric distress in the manner of some intermittent cramping and aching. She denied Nand V , diarrhea, flatus, eructation, headache, or Any OTHER SYMPTOMS OF ANY KIND. She lived less than a mile from the hospital. Because she lived no close and exhibited no guarding, grimmacing, and had no tenderness to palpation, I allowed her to go home and told her to come back directly if she should have any further symptoms. She didn't come back that night but 3 days later, she came back with a return of symptoms but accompanied with Nausea, vomiting, and severe cramping. She was admitted with a partial paralytic ileus; she was there 3 days on IV fluids and antibiotics and a Demerol PCA. I was later notified that I had breached the EMTALA Act by not doing a complete medical screening on her and having the MD come in and see her the night she first came in. They were just going to give me a warning a copy of the EMTALA Act for the next time, but to cover themselves, they said they wouldn't fire me but would ask me to resign and then without telling me they turned me into the State Board in ARizona which is known for its inability to see the forest for the trees as I will show you in a moment. The charge nurse, Roseanna, said she would have done the same thing and was unaware of EMTALA as well. Even though I had not been properly oriented to all the legalities of working in their ER , I was found guilty of "unprofessional conduct" and given the lowest level of disciplinary action, a decree of censure. Then in 2001, I

needed knee surgery for an injury I had sustained 3 months before my insurance took effect. I picked an internist out of their directory whom I did not know and made an appointment on June25 so I could get a referral to an orthopedic surgeon; I had been limping along on crutches since March, my entire left leg was swollen to twice its size and I could barely stand the pain. This new PCP who had none of my previous records, who new nothing about me except that I told him I was a nurse when he asked what kind of work I do, wrote in my chart that I was "a drug seeking RN, who probably goes from one new PCP to another and to ER's asking for narcotics. Probable drug abuser." I was not aware that this was on my chart until one year ago when I went to see my new PCP ( I never went back to him again); my new PCP whom I had been a patient of for 1 year asked about the former doctor's comments. To say that I was shocked, angered, is insufficient. I was enraged. I had gone on to have knee surgery on August 14 after I visited an ER on July 3, where the MD asked me if I wanted a shot of demerol or morphine, both which I declined because my stomach is extremely intolerant of many meds, narcotics, antibiotics, NSAIDS, among others. He asked what I could take and I told him Percocet is the ONLY pain med that doesn't either make me vomit, lose my BP, or put my brain on another planet. The ER doc had no problem. He had the nurse give me 2 and a script for 20 till I would be seeing the Ortho in 10 days. He also gave me a knee immobilizer, and xrayed the knee because the degree of swelling made him think maybe I had a small fracture. My Ortho had no problem giving me percocet either; I had a total of 3 scripts related to this one problem: one from the ER doc, and one before the surgery which wasn't done until August 14 and then one after surgery, (each one for 30 pills). I had had no reason or requests for narcotics before or since except in 1995 when I had had a lady partsl hysterectomy and I used the printout from my pharmacy as proof as well as the fact that prior to getting new insurance and a new job I had been with the same PCP from 1993 to 2001. And I had only been to the ER once in 1994 related to my hormone related problems and elevated BP. In spite of all the proof to the contrary, the Nursing Board, which could have simply dismissed this and SHOULD HAVE, WROTE ME A LETTER OF CONCERN BECAUSE MY REACTION TO WHAT HE DID WAS INAPPROPRIATELY EXCESSIVE. (I HAD WRITTEN HIM A LETTER STATING THAT I BELIEVED THAT HE WAS A VERY POOR DIAGNOSTICIAN , HE TOLD THE BOARD I CAME IN WITH A SPRAINED ANKLE; AND I SAID THAT I ONLY HOPED THAT SOMEDAY HE WOULD BE IN A POSITION WHERE HE WAS IN SEVERE PAIN AND WAS UNABLE TO GET RELIEF.

I am ready to quit nursing because everywhere I go I have to explain that there are 2 marks against my license even though one is a non-disciplinary action (whatever that means). I called the board and even though the doctor's complaint was unfounded, it still had to be listed as a complaint. Even though a MD can be rightfully sued for malpractice, if he settles out of court it doen't go on his record. But for us nurses, even if we are found innocent (and believe me they checked out every employer I ever worked for which I am sure made them wonder why the State Board was investigating a "drug related" complaint against me.) I can no longer go back to any of the places I used to work and hold up my head; I feel soiled; my reputation is ruined and as the psychiatrist said to me (the Board made me see one):

"The Only thing wrong with you is that you are suffering from righteous indignation at the Arizona State Board for destroying your good name and casting doubt in the minds of all of your former employers." As nurses we are sitting ducks out there. I would never be a nurse again if I could go back 35 years and start over. My patient care is impeccable, my communication skills with patients, families, staff, is excellent, I have never had a complaint from a family member or patient. But I might as well have taken the entire narcotic cabinet home with me as far as the way it looks and my self esteem is too battered. Just don't only watch your back. don't make any enemies. The State Board "have to investigate any and every complaint that is lodges against any licensed person under our jurisdiction."

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"They'll suck the life out of you" is something I was told when I first started nursing.

And when a doc yells at me when I believe I'm doing backflips to help a patient, that's exactly how I feel.

Yelling docs don't get called at the first s/s, I confer with my colleagues about what time might be better for him. We check the chart carefully and explore other options. Meanwhile, tick-tock...

Usually I get the flack for the day shift Unit Sec who forgot to put an order in, or for a different shift's nurse who didn't get an order implemented in what the Dr. believes :rolleyes: is a timely fashion.

I have no idea how to get the message out to the docs that when they order PRBCs to run over 6 hours (????!!!!!:uhoh3: ) it is NOT POSSIBLE, even with the doctor writing the order. I don't know how the docs think it's ok to yell at me about failings of other shifts at 0300 when the patient needs an UNRELATED treatment.

But it affects me. It hurts to hear that when you expected to hear, "Good save!"

It affects the communication that I have with that doc and therefore, it ultimately could affect patient care. I could then see how taking years and years of this kind of treatment might wear me down and cause me to quit nursing eventually.

So how does it REALLY affect you?

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Go for it ASAP. Time goes by so fast you won't believe it. I just turned 56, been nursing since 1975 everything from med/surg to transplants to hemodialysis. But although we have a lot of options, the jobs change, but the personalities remain the same. So go do something that won't leave you dissatisfied, discouraged, with carpal tunnel, varicose veins, and swollen ankles. Work to Live-----Don't live to Work!!! And God Bless!! Now getouttahere.

QUOTE=lifeisbeautiful]I am seriously considering leaving Nursing. I would like to open a coffee shop or return to school to obtain a skill like a plumber, surveyor or electrician.

I work on the PACU at the moment and there are a few Physicians that are verbally abuse, throw tantrums, etc., but I seem to have an even bigger problem with how Nurses treat other Nurses. I have had many different non-nursing jobs over the years and I have to say, the Nursing profession seems to be the worst as a far as not supporting each other. I even notice that on this board. Someone posts an opinion and idea and within a post or two, someone has to step in and shred it to pieces. Of course it is human to disagree with others, but I find that the way Nurses do it is in a class of it's own. Why is this? When I obtained my degree in Psychology I had many seminars and classes with people and we really supported one another. In Nursing school, there seemed to be a large group that competed with everything. Dog forbid you missed something in a lecture because if you asked to look at someone's notes, most people didn't want to share it. It was as though they wanted you to fail. :o

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First, let me say that I have been in the profession for 30 years this June. Second, let me add that I have NEVER been disciplined or written up or had even one incident report written on me regarding a med error, an error in providing safe patient care, nor have I ever been guilty of making any mistakes. And for 24 of those years my record has been spotless. In 1999, however, I took a position at a very tiny hospital because it was less than one mile from the home we had just purchased. I had worked there previously on a PRN, but rare basis. The hospital had 20 med/surge beds, an ob unit which has since closed, and an ER . They were still on 8 hr shifts at the time. I worked nights with one of the 2 other Night Shift RNs. One, a male named James (not his real name) had begun his career as first an EMT, then a Paramedic, then an LPN, and finally had gotten his RN 10 years ago. He had been working for this hospital in one capacity or another for 10 years and had known everyone prior as an Paramedic before them. The other night nurse, Roseanna (a pseudonym as well), was a nurse who had come to the hospital a new RN 2 years prior and had had no previous medical experience prior to getting her RN. When I worked with James, he would take some patients and when someone came into the ER, I would "cover" his patients and we had a CNA as well who would help me answer lights. When I worked with Roseanna, I would work the ER and she would cover my patients. Although I had worked with James when I had worked PRN and we had had a good rapport, when I went part time regular at 32 hrs, he began to make it apparent that I had not been his choice for the position. I was hired by the Nurse Manager because she was "trying to beef up the unit with more experienced RN's; right now the only RN with more than 3 years experience is James and ALL BUT ONE have come here as new grads from the Community College and have little or no clinical experience in routine procedures." I later learned that James had had a hand in choosing nurses to fill each position that came open, and he chose the ones he got to know when they came to get their clinicals in on the night shift during he would "mentor" them. One night when I was working with him and we were sitting at the desk, he said, "I'd much rather get a new grad who hasn't developed a lot of bad habits than a so called 'seasoned RN' that thinks she knows everything". This comment made after I had made up a "hot pack" for warm moist heat by using a wet towel wrapped in a blue plastic chux that I had heated in the microwave; James nixed that idea by stating that " we don't do things like that here; what if a code was called and it caught on fire when you left it?" I could not believe that he wasn't aware that this is an accepted method of preparing a warm,moist heat pack when a K-pad is unavailable.There was no doctor in house on weekends; just a PA who was good but who was unskilled at intubation. During the week, the doctor went home at 2300 and would come when the ER nurse called him to see a patient. James often intubated "coding" patients if they were not brought by Paramedics so the hospital found his additional skill to be invaluable. I had never worked in an ER where we had to initiate the Medicaid approval, call the PCP's on certain groups and I got NO help in orientation on these things. My orientation consisted of the usual general safety training: fire extinguishers, lifting and bending correctly but NO NURSING ORIENTATION. I was told that an Orientation Packet was being revised. I never saw it in in the year and a half that I was there. The other nurse, Roseanna, who also worked nights and occasionally ER, said she hated to because she felt incompetent in that area; she had no more to offer me as far as protocols either. One night a 48 year old woman with benign history said she had eaten dinner at a restaurant about 2 hours ago and was having some gastric distress in the manner of some intermittent cramping and aching. She denied Nand V , diarrhea, flatus, eructation, headache, or Any OTHER SYMPTOMS OF ANY KIND. She lived less than a mile from the hospital. Because she lived no close and exhibited no guarding, grimmacing, and had no tenderness to palpation, I allowed her to go home and told her to come back directly if she should have any further symptoms. She didn't come back that night but 3 days later, she came back with a return of symptoms but accompanied with Nausea, vomiting, and severe cramping. She was admitted with a partial paralytic ileus; she was there 3 days on IV fluids and antibiotics and a Demerol PCA. I was later notified that I had breached the EMTALA Act by not doing a complete medical screening on her and having the MD come in and see her the night she first came in. They were just going to give me a warning a copy of the EMTALA Act for the next time, but to cover themselves, they said they wouldn't fire me but would ask me to resign and then without telling me they turned me into the State Board in ARizona which is known for its inability to see the forest for the trees as I will show you in a moment. The charge nurse, Roseanna, said she would have done the same thing and was unaware of EMTALA as well. Even though I had not been properly oriented to all the legalities of working in their ER , I was found guilty of "unprofessional conduct" and given the lowest level of disciplinary action, a decree of censure. Then in 2001, I

needed knee surgery for an injury I had sustained 3 months before my insurance took effect. I picked an internist out of their directory whom I did not know and made an appointment on June25 so I could get a referral to an orthopedic surgeon; I had been limping along on crutches since March, my entire left leg was swollen to twice its size and I could barely stand the pain. This new PCP who had none of my previous records, who new nothing about me except that I told him I was a nurse when he asked what kind of work I do, wrote in my chart that I was "a drug seeking RN, who probably goes from one new PCP to another and to ER's asking for narcotics. Probable drug abuser." I was not aware that this was on my chart until one year ago when I went to see my new PCP ( I never went back to him again); my new PCP whom I had been a patient of for 1 year asked about the former doctor's comments. To say that I was shocked, angered, is insufficient. I was enraged. I had gone on to have knee surgery on August 14 after I visited an ER on July 3, where the MD asked me if I wanted a shot of demerol or morphine, both which I declined because my stomach is extremely intolerant of many meds, narcotics, antibiotics, NSAIDS, among others. He asked what I could take and I told him Percocet is the ONLY pain med that doesn't either make me vomit, lose my BP, or put my brain on another planet. The ER doc had no problem. He had the nurse give me 2 and a script for 20 till I would be seeing the Ortho in 10 days. He also gave me a knee immobilizer, and xrayed the knee because the degree of swelling made him think maybe I had a small fracture. My Ortho had no problem giving me percocet either; I had a total of 3 scripts related to this one problem: one from the ER doc, and one before the surgery which wasn't done until August 14 and then one after surgery, (each one for 30 pills). I had had no reason or requests for narcotics before or since except in 1995 when I had had a lady partsl hysterectomy and I used the printout from my pharmacy as proof as well as the fact that prior to getting new insurance and a new job I had been with the same PCP from 1993 to 2001. And I had only been to the ER once in 1994 related to my hormone related problems and elevated BP. In spite of all the proof to the contrary, the Nursing Board, which could have simply dismissed this and SHOULD HAVE, WROTE ME A LETTER OF CONCERN BECAUSE MY REACTION TO WHAT HE DID WAS INAPPROPRIATELY EXCESSIVE. (I HAD WRITTEN HIM A LETTER STATING THAT I BELIEVED THAT HE WAS A VERY POOR DIAGNOSTICIAN , HE TOLD THE BOARD I CAME IN WITH A SPRAINED ANKLE; AND I SAID THAT I ONLY HOPED THAT SOMEDAY HE WOULD BE IN A POSITION WHERE HE WAS IN SEVERE PAIN AND WAS UNABLE TO GET RELIEF.

I am ready to quit nursing because everywhere I go I have to explain that there are 2 marks against my license even though one is a non-disciplinary action (whatever that means). I called the board and even though the doctor's complaint was unfounded, it still had to be listed as a complaint. Even though a MD can be rightfully sued for malpractice, if he settles out of court it doen't go on his record. But for us nurses, even if we are found innocent (and believe me they checked out every employer I ever worked for which I am sure made them wonder why the State Board was investigating a "drug related" complaint against me.) I can no longer go back to any of the places I used to work and hold up my head; I feel soiled; my reputation is ruined and as the psychiatrist said to me (the Board made me see one):

"The Only thing wrong with you is that you are suffering from righteous indignation at the Arizona State Board for destroying your good name and casting doubt in the minds of all of your former employers." As nurses we are sitting ducks out there. I would never be a nurse again if I could go back 35 years and start over. My patient care is impeccable, my communication skills with patients, families, staff, is excellent, I have never had a complaint from a family member or patient. But I might as well have taken the entire narcotic cabinet home with me as far as the way it looks and my self esteem is too battered. Just don't only watch your back. don't make any enemies. The State Board "have to investigate any and every complaint that is lodges against any licensed person under our jurisdiction."

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Why do we let this go on? there must be a way to stop before things get out of hand. I never had a write up prior to this facility and they were pulling me into the office for things that were not even errors.that was bad enough but she would not even listen to any reasons or explanations. she was very brutal. I think it is just their way of making themselves look superior.
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i seem to have an even bigger problem with how nurses treat other nurses. i have had many different non-nursing jobs over the years and i have to say, the nursing profession seems to be the worst as a far as not supporting each other. i even notice that on this board. someone posts an opinion and idea and within a post or two, someone has to step in and shred it to pieces. of course it is human to disagree with others, but i find that the way nurses do it is in a class of it's own. why is this? when i obtained my degree in psychology i had many seminars and classes with people and we really supported one another. in nursing school, there seemed to be a large group that competed with everything. dog forbid you missed something in a lecture because if you asked to look at someone's notes, most people didn't want to share it. it was as though they wanted you to fail. :o

your words are so true. rather depressing, but true. everyone is out to get each other. i truly believe it is a woman thing (generally speaking- and yes i am a girl!!) i've heard some co-workers say "i don't get involved with all the bs. i just do my job, and go home". i don't know how this is possible. :o

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I wonder sometimes if nursing is blesed with too many LSE people who don't know any other way to operate than compete and belittle others. Woe to the nurse who challenges the status quo or rankles someone's ego (like Celeste's story re the paramedic turned RN) I'm sure this goes on to some extreme in every profession but it seems quite out of place in a helping profession...wish it wasn't so. But like the old saying goes 'if wishes were horses then beggars would ride'.

Seems in the smaller hospitals this type thing goes on more often than not. Somebody wrangles his/her way into a position of power and it goes to their head. While I manage to find a kindred spirit most places I've worked, the politics takes precedent and they will turn against you in an instant when it suits them. I've never behaved like that, it is not in my nature. There seems so little integrity out there anymore in facilities. Politics rule and everybody is out for themselves. (which leads into why we cannot stick together)

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