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No. 10
from -jt
Old Mar 06, 2003, 03:46 PM
Updated Mar 06, 2003 at 03:56 PM by -jt

Well, it can be humorous to hear these stories but I think its so ridiculous that the public actually thinks a tatoo is a valid DNR consent. A DNR tatoo will not prevent her from being resuscitated. An RN in my community had DNR tatooed across his chest for many years. When he was a victim in car accident a few years ago, even though the tatoo was clear, he was still resuscitated. A DNR tatoo cant be considered an advance directive. Its just another tatoo. The healthcare professionals couldnt just say oh look at his tatoo - hes a DNR, and then stand back & do nothing. They would have been legally liable for neglience if they had with-held CPR just because of some initials on his skin. So, legally, they had to resuscitate him everytime he coded - until the family made the decision in writing (on a paper consent form). And the whole story was in our local newspaper for days. If these people feel so strongly about not being resuscitated that they took the time, expense, and pain of getting a tatoo, they should also take the time to discuss their wishes with their families and MDs, and put it all in writing in a legally binding paper document, so it can be upheld without question. Besides, the paper advance directives forms are free and they dont hurt. All this RN had was his tatoo and that didnt count, so his wishes could not be carried out until his family finally gave written permission. So sad.
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No. 11
from valk
Old Mar 06, 2003, 03:51 PM

That reminds me of a former patient.
He was a quadriplegic @ 40 years old. I was talking to him about advance directives & he asked me to help him take his shirt off. I asked him why & he just said you'll understand in a minute.
Right there on his chest were the initials DNR in letters @3 inches high.
He said that he wished he had never been resuscitated after the accident that left him paralyzed & figured if it was written right there on his chest he wouldn't be brought back again.
I documented it in his chart & he had his mother fill out the advance directive.
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No. 12
from Whisper
Old Mar 06, 2003, 04:08 PM

-jt,
Does your local newspaper, have an internet link? I am gathering information for a debate and essay on DNR , and would be really interested in reading those articles.

Whisper
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No. 13
from -jt
Old Mar 06, 2003, 04:20 PM

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No. 14
from agnewRN
Old Mar 06, 2003, 04:28 PM

I also cared for a middle age gentleman with terminal cancer that had a tattoo on his chest DNR. I didn't believe it at first when I read the admit assessment but he gladly showed it and had all his "legal documents " in place to support it. He said he didn't want to take any chances. My only comment to him was hope he doesn't change his mind. He reassured me he wouldn't.
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No. 15
from Allison S.
Old Mar 06, 2003, 04:37 PM

Tangentially, I went to school with a guy who had a "biohazard" tattoo. I tried to explain to him that this goes without saying.
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No. 16
from LasVegasRN
Old Mar 06, 2003, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by -jt
Well, it can be humorous to hear these stories but I think its so ridiculous that the public actually thinks a tatoo is a valid DNR consent. A DNR tatoo will not prevent her from being resuscitated. An RN in my community had DNR tatooed across his chest for many years. When he was a victim in car accident a few years ago, even though the tatoo was clear, he was still resuscitated. A DNR tatoo cant be considered an advance directive. Its just another tatoo. The healthcare professionals couldnt just say oh look at his tatoo - hes a DNR, and then stand back & do nothing. They would have been legally liable for neglience if they had with-held CPR just because of some initials on his skin. So, legally, they had to resuscitate him everytime he coded - until the family made the decision in writing (on a paper consent form). And the whole story was in our local newspaper for days. If these people feel so strongly about not being resuscitated that they took the time, expense, and pain of getting a tatoo, they should also take the time to discuss their wishes with their families and MDs, and put it all in writing in a legally binding paper document, so it can be upheld without question. Besides, the paper advance directives forms are free and they dont hurt. All this RN had was his tatoo and that didnt count, so his wishes could not be carried out until his family finally gave written permission. So sad.
Well stated. Should also discuss organ donation.
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No. 17
Old Mar 06, 2003, 05:33 PM

Actually I think this 85 year old woman is trying to make a statement--how many times have you seen elderly people even with the proper legal documents--be resuscitated because family members (alive and well) insisted health care providers do "everything possible." Its sad, and we can say how wrong it is ethically--but it happens.
I think if an 85 year old mother/grandmother/aunt took such a drastic step--it would certainly make the message loud and clear.
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No. 18
from kids
Old Mar 06, 2003, 05:38 PM

Has anyone considered that having all of the signed documents in the world saying you are a DNR will not do you ONE bit of good if you are in an accident or keel over on the street? EMS or ER staff are not going to figure out who you are and call your family to ask if you have advanced directives before starting CPR if you code.
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No. 19
from shoelace
Old Mar 07, 2003, 04:04 AM

Of course it isn't a *legal* document, but you'd think we'd give even MORE credence to a freaking tattoo. Anyone have one? They HURT! Anyone willing to go through that pain should have their inked wishes honored, legal document or not!
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