What do you think should be the starting salary for nurses? - page 2

I've been looking at this site for a few years, and one thing that I've seen is that many of you feel that nurses are not paid enough, and others have stated that $25 to $30 per hour for a starting... Read More

  1. by   KulRN
    Starting in my area is $28.40/hour (no experience and new grad)...With at least 2 years experience, I would say that fair start should be at least $35.00/hour.
  2. by   RNmom08
    I northern iowa, we're looking at starting at $19.14/hr. The same healthcare system owns everything from small towns clinics to some of the larger ones and they have flooded the market so much that they can control the pay. Now if I would take an hour drive north to Mayo Clinic, I could get hired right out of school for $25/hr. Something I'm really taking a serious look at.
  3. by   BerryHappy
    An amount more than doctors. They are more likely to get sued (insurance) but we are more likely to get slapped (physically & verbally) for which their is NO insurance!
  4. by   cmo421
    It very much depends on where u work and the cost of living in that area. The bigger cities with large hospitals pay more. Here RN's start at about $22 and go as high as $ 45-50 with longevity. LPN's start at 18-20 aand can get to $30 with longevity. OT is paid great here ,so many RN's rake in well over a 100,000 per yr with minimal OT per week. Its all apples and oranges!
  5. by   al7139
    As a patient recently said to me while he was watching a football game (his wife is a nurse): "You should be getting what they make, and they should be making what you make!"
    Amen to that!
    Amy
  6. by   CiCigirl
    Quote from traumaRUs
    I think that being an RN should afford you the ability to drive a decent car (not necessarily a Lexus or BMW), live in a nice neighborhood, own a house and provide adequately for their families. So...I guess I can't give a number since it will vary by area.

    I think that a lot of nurses see nursing this way and that's part of the altruistic, self-sacrificing attitude that keeps nursing salaries down.

    I think outside of the nursing community there are a lot of Americans who want more for themselves and their families than "decent" and "adequate". Outside of the nursing community career achievement is rewarded monetarily and people do not generally look down on it. Some of the highest paying professions in this country are sales professionals and I've never heard any one of them state they only wanted "decent" or "adequate".

    And you know what else? I've never heard a doctor talk about how overpaid they are. Never heard one of them talk about how they didn't deserve their BMW or Lexus.

    I think if a person puts the time, money, and effort into their education and career they deserve to reap the benefits. Many other professionals are compensated for their valuable contributions, Nurses should be too.

    IMHO

    :spin:
  7. by   Advocate1
    In the Chicago area starting new grad RN pay is around $23-$25/hr. The shift diff vary from place to place- my friends and I have compared. For PM shift (1500-2300) there's a $3.25 diffferential and for NTS (2300-0700) theres a $5 diff.

    I was wondering how long a new grad RN waits until he/she can ask for or recieves a raise? And approx how much should that raise be?

    ~grazie~
  8. by   Advocate1
    Starting pay in the Chicago area for new grad RNs
    Base: $23-$25
    Differential $3-$5 depends on the shift and the hospital

    Just wondering how long a new grad RN should wait until he/she asks for or receives a raise?

    How much should that raise be?

    Thanks All
  9. by   llg
    Quote from CiCigirl
    I think that a lot of nurses see nursing this way and that's part of the altruistic, self-sacrificing attitude that keeps nursing salaries down.

    I think outside of the nursing community there are a lot of Americans who want more for themselves and their families than "decent" and "adequate". Outside of the nursing community career achievement is rewarded monetarily and people do not generally look down on it. Some of the highest paying professions in this country are sales professionals and I've never heard any one of them state they only wanted "decent" or "adequate".

    And you know what else? I've never heard a doctor talk about how overpaid they are. Never heard one of them talk about how they didn't deserve their BMW or Lexus.

    I think if a person puts the time, money, and effort into their education and career they deserve to reap the benefits. Many other professionals are compensated for their valuable contributions, Nurses should be too.

    IMHO

    :spin:
    While I agree that we need to think of ourselves as being worthy of high compensation and present ourselves as such, I also agree with the particular post you were responding to. To be talking about specific numbers is ridiculous. When we fail to consider the cost of living, the compensation numbers become meaningless. I appreciate the other poster's efforts to state her desired level of compensation in terms of the standard of living that her desired wages will give her.

    As for physicians and fancy cars, etc. ... We will never be compensated at those levels until we require a similar level of education (which isn't going to happen in our lifetimes -- and probably shouldn't happen).

    Considering the differences in educational levels ... What would you say the standard of living should be?

    ...for an entry-level position requiring only the minimal education
    ... for nurses with additional education working in advanced positions that involve taking more responsibility
  10. by   jmking
    I'm an LPN and I make 18.67. Yes, I would like to make more but I'm okay with it.
  11. by   CyndieRN2007
    1 Million dollars......CASH! LOL!!!!!!!

    Im sorry, that was from a favorite movie of mine, I couldnt help myself.


    I think we should start at 65-70thou a year. I make way less than that. RN in Tx making 20 dollars/hr.
  12. by   CiCigirl
    Quote from llg
    While I agree that we need to think of ourselves as being worthy of high compensation and present ourselves as such, I also agree with the particular post you were responding to. To be talking about specific numbers is ridiculous. When we fail to consider the cost of living, the compensation numbers become meaningless. I appreciate the other poster's efforts to state her desired level of compensation in terms of the standard of living that her desired wages will give her.

    As for physicians and fancy cars, etc. ... We will never be compensated at those levels until we require a similar level of education (which isn't going to happen in our lifetimes -- and probably shouldn't happen).

    Considering the differences in educational levels ... What would you say the standard of living should be?

    ...for an entry-level position requiring only the minimal education
    ... for nurses with additional education working in advanced positions that involve taking more responsibility

    Thanks for your post, llg--

    A couple of the things I was responding to specifically were the statements, "I think that being an RN should afford you the ability to drive a decent car..." and "provide adequately for their families".

    Please pardon my post if it was taken personally, or seen as too aggressive or opinionated or what have you and please remember that I was not speaking of specific numbers. But what I was trying to convey is that I feel that the work nurses do is invaluable to our communities and although the educational requirements are not the same as required of M.D.s they are above and beyond the average educational level attained by many citizens of our country, (as well they should be).

    I am currently a second career nurse hopeful to be and I take the level of responsibility, dedication and committment it takes to be a good nurse very seriously. I understand the monetary compensation could never equal the level of dedication and expertise required to be a good nurse. But I am simply very much against the idea that nurse should only look for "decent" and "adequate" compensation for their immeasurable contribution to the community.

    Should nurses be paid as much as physicians? Surely not, b/c the requirements for each position are so different. But should they be paid more than they are currently being paid? Absolutely YES!

    Although a beginning nurse is entering an entry level nurse position, their education level is not minimal compared to the average education level of citizens of this country. (And neither is their responsiblity level, for that matter.)

    As for how much entry level nurses should be offered, I agree with you, it depends on the area, and specifically the cost of living of that area. In my area it's about $25/hr.

    Do I think that's enough for all the work nurses do? NO. But am I willing to accept that as a starting salary for the work I want to do? Yes.

    And I do think advanced practice nurses and nurses with advanced degrees should be compensated above and beyond that.

    Although I'd be one of the last people to purchase one of those glorified rollerskates that we call BMW or Lexus, I'm sure you would agree that there's nothing wrong with wanting more compensation for you and your family, the ability to contribute more to your 403b and IRA and a more comfortable lifestyle when you retire.

    Because, as our great president has warned us all, social security may not be there when we retire.

    :wink2:
  13. by   Plagueis
    Quote from llg
    While I agree that we need to think of ourselves as being worthy of high compensation and present ourselves as such, I also agree with the particular post you were responding to. To be talking about specific numbers is ridiculous. When we fail to consider the cost of living, the compensation numbers become meaningless. I appreciate the other poster's efforts to state her desired level of compensation in terms of the standard of living that her desired wages will give her.
    Thanks to everyone who has responded to this thread. I know that cost of living varies around this and other countries, so that salary numbers by themselves don't tell the whole story. However, I have seen numerous posts here where someone has stated that nurses don't earn enough, or that $25 per hour as a starting wage, for instance, is too low. Therefore, I am assuming that based on the cost of living in their area, the posters consider that salary too low, so they must have some idea of what they think the proper compensation should be for nurses where they live.

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