Vaccinations Rock! How to Get Parents to Think So - page 3

A few weeks ago a friend with a new grandchild whispered to me, "What am I going to do? My daughter doesn't want to get the baby vaccinated!" My dismay must have been evident as I spoke gently to... Read More

  1. by   Wuzzie
    Quote from BCgradnurse
    Watch a child die from tetanus and see if you still think vaccines are bad.
    I've seen a child die from tetanus and it was awful.
  2. by   OldDude
    Quote from Wuzzie
    I've seen a child die from tetanus and it was awful.
    Ugh, I haven't and I hope I never do. How about the rabies vaccine? I wonder where that one stands with the anti-vaccine faction?
  3. by   Wuzzie
    Quote from OldDude
    Ugh, I haven't and I hope I never do. How about the rabies vaccine? I wonder where that one stands with the anti-vaccine faction?
    Hmmmmm. I wonder too. I have seen two cases of tetanus in my career. Two more than I ever wanted to. One survived. The family was so grateful that they brought her back a year later and even let us take pictures with her (they were Amish). They also happily reported that because of what happened every child in their community had their immunizations brought up to date.
  4. by   Horseshoe
    Quote from BCgradnurse
    Watch a child die from tetanus and see if you still think vaccines are bad.
    Don't you understand? Their children are lions in the face of deadly infectious diseases, but snowflakes in the face of vaccines.
  5. by   audreysmagic
    Quote from Wuzzie
    I've seen a child die from tetanus and it was awful.
    I'm only liking in sympathy - that's so awful.

    I keep reading some of these comments, reminding myself, people are entitled to their opinion, and I'm entitled to think they're dead wrong. My biggest problem with the autism argument, specifically, is that no matter how tough autism can be (and I have extensive personal and professional experience with autism), if that is someone's primary objection to vaccination, they're saying their child is better off fighting a potentially deadly disease than autistic. Religious and medical exemptions, I can support, but I don't ever want to hear the autism card played again on this issue (especially since the study was debunked).
  6. by   BCgradnurse
    Quote from Horseshoe
    Don't you understand? Their children are lions in the face of deadly infectious diseases, but snowflakes in the face of vaccines.
    Apparently I've got it backwards. Maybe some coconut oil or cabbage juice would save us all from diseases and we wouldn't need vaccinations.
  7. by   BCgradnurse
    Quote from audreysmagic
    I'm only liking in sympathy - that's so awful.

    I keep reading some of these comments, reminding myself, people are entitled to their opinion, and I'm entitled to think they're dead wrong. My biggest problem with the autism argument, specifically, is that no matter how tough autism can be (and I have extensive personal and professional experience with autism), if that is someone's primary objection to vaccination, they're saying their child is better off fighting a potentially deadly disease than autistic. Religious and medical exemptions, I can support, but I don't ever want to hear the autism card played again on this issue (especially since the study was debunked).
    I can't even support religious exemptions. Not getting immunizations hurts others, not just the non-immunized child. That's where I draw the line. If you object to vaccines, then please home school your children and keep them out of public places. Decisions have consequences.
  8. by   Rota
    There are valid reasons to vaccinate and there are valid reasons not to. This is a medical procedure with inherent risk to it should be given only after a signed informed consent is obtained. This informed consent should be provided and simplified so that the parent understands the risks of the vaccination ( there are many) and that the child will be injected with formaldehyde, mercury, foreign DNA and RNA, other biologics etc. The parent should also be given the information of what it means to be injected with formaldehyde and mercury- that these are neurotoxins and can cause permanent brain injury.
    I then ask those of you who insist on vaccinating your child, which is your right, why are you afraid of a child who is not vaccinated? If the vaccine works, then your child should not get sick if exposed to a child who has not been vaccinated. It should be just as much a right for a parent to refuse a treatment since it does not endanger anyone else.
    Someone please explain to me why a newborn needs a HepB vaccine? This is just wrong.
  9. by   nursej22
    Quote from Rota
    Someone please explain to me why a newborn needs a HepB vaccine? This is just wrong.
    I am guessing this is a rhetorical question, but I'll give it a go anyway:

    1) Women can carry unknowingly carry the Hep B virus and pass it on to their baby
    2) You never know when your baby or child may be exposed accidentally-through a medical procedure, accidental blood exposure, or unfortunately through assault.
    3) There is a chance to completely eradicate Hep B worldwide and eliminate the leading cause of liver cancer. In order to do that, everyone must be vaccinated, just as in small pox and polio. Babies have a robust response to the vaccine, so 3 shots in infancy and (in most cases) they are protected for life.
  10. by   bananas1
    Quote from Rota
    There are valid reasons to vaccinate and there are valid reasons not to. This is a medical procedure with inherent risk to it should be given only after a signed informed consent is obtained. This informed consent should be provided and simplified so that the parent understands the risks of the vaccination ( there are many) and that the child will be injected with formaldehyde, mercury, foreign DNA and RNA, other biologics etc. The parent should also be given the information of what it means to be injected with formaldehyde and mercury- that these are neurotoxins and can cause permanent brain injury.
    I then ask those of you who insist on vaccinating your child, which is your right, why are you afraid of a child who is not vaccinated? If the vaccine works, then your child should not get sick if exposed to a child who has not been vaccinated. It should be just as much a right for a parent to refuse a treatment since it does not endanger anyone else.
    Someone please explain to me why a newborn needs a HepB vaccine? This is just wrong.
    There is nothing in vaccines that isn't in everyday life (except the antigen). Formaldehyde on fruits, surfactant in shampoos and toothpastes.. aluminium in water bottles.. etc.

    Not vaccinating children isn't about the other vaccinated children, it's about those going through chemo, infants under 5 months old (or up to the age that they finish their primary course in your country) and those with immune deficiencies. It's about protecting our most vulnerable. Herd immunity protects these children.

    Parents can pass Hep B onto their newborn child... do you know how serious Hep B can be?
  11. by   capitalsfan83
    In the last 3 months saw 2 patients die of Flu (they were both vaccinated) healthy in their mid 40's. And 3 patients that developed Guillain-Barré after flu vaccine, one of them was pregnant female.
  12. by   CelticGoddess
    Quote from capitalsfan83
    In the last 3 months saw 2 patients die of Flu (they were both vaccinated) healthy in their mid 40's. And 3 patients that developed Guillain-Barré after flu vaccine, one of them was pregnant female.
    And I have seen multiple people die from influenza who did NOT have the flu vaccine. And my husbands pastor got GB and did NOT get the flu vaccine. I'm not sure what you are saying but anecdotal evidence is not really scientific.
  13. by   Have Nurse
    Quote from holisticallyminded
    Just WOW. Arrogant nurses who know NOTHING about the immune system (because the level of education in nursing school is sub par in this area), know nothing about vaccine adjuvants, nothing about developing immune systems and can't answer basic questions about WHY parents should be wary of vaccination HAVE NO RIGHT to help with informed decision making, let alone moralize about the safety of vaccines. I am often very embarrassed that my profession would use their license as a political tool.
    Ever heard of the Cochrane Review? The verdict is more than out on vaccines. You don't know what you're talking about. My patients will be provided INFORMED CONSENT.
    Good. Share this with them as well.
    http://www.immunize.org/catg.d/p4026.pdf

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