URGENT question about pot smoking please read! - page 6

Hey everyone I am starting nursing school in two weeks, and I was wondering if they do drug tests before or during the courses. On occasion, some of my friends and I may smoke up for a bit. ... Read More

  1. by   nowplayingEDRN
    Originally posted by DMR1
    well thanks for posting your opinions on this matter, but it still doesnt' answer my question.

    Do any schools test for this? I've never heard of schools doing this.

    and also, I live in Canada, and pot will be decriminalized soon, which means you will only recieve a small fine. it won't be a criminal offense.
    Look at it this way...would you want a nurse that had smoked pot taking care of one of your loved ones or your self??? Would you want someone who has impaired judgement making critical decisions about your care and life??? I think not. I know I wouldn't.

    I am not pointing a finger or beating on anyone that uses however in the states it is illegal and although it may be decriminalized in Canada, it will still mark your career and reputation. Health care holds high standards on their people. I recommend that you immediately consider detoxing your self and abstain from it if you are serious about pursuing a career in nursing.
  2. by   nowplayingEDRN
    as far as I know the schools here in the states do not take drug tests for preadmission purposes but I am 110% with Tweety. Bro, you put it so eloquently.
  3. by   PilotJim68
    My school does drug testing before you are accepted AND at anytime during the nursing school process. I take a hard line when it comes to drugs and drug abuse and I happen to think that you and your friends and anyone else who smokes or smokes pot are idiots. I think anyone who "uses" is a weak minded follower who needs a crutch (drugs) to get through life. Not to mention, smokers just plain smell bad, and have the yellow/brown teeth, the yellow fingernails, the smokers breath, the smokers cough, the smokers voice.....real attractive......real attractive. The known inherient health risks to themselves and others just says that you are a bad decision maker because you decided to smoke and use drugs such as pot or nicotine. Smoking and pot smoking are extremely selfish acts as it benefits no one except the user. It is simply the user trying to satisfy an addiction or just conforming to peer pressure (being weak minded). Just go ahead and wear that "stupid" sign around to make sure sensible, law abiding people can avoid you. Ok..I had better stop, I could go on for hours about this stuff and I have probably stirred up a hornets nest.
    Last edit by PilotJim68 on Aug 16, '03
  4. by   DMR1
    Originally posted by UntamedSpirit
    Look at it this way...would you want a nurse that had smoked pot taking care of one of your loved ones or your self??? Would you want someone who has impaired judgement making critical decisions about your care and life??? I think not. I know I wouldn't.
    That statement doesn't make any sense. People who drank before have also had impaired judgement. So...you've had a hangover, you shouldn't be treating patients. Is that what you're saying? HA!

    You guys are jumpin the gun here. The issue is not smoking pot on a daily basis, weekly, or even monthly. I'm talking about a few times a year. A birthday, or a summer vacation with some friends. That does NOT impaire my judgement of treating patients, the same way as having an occasional drink does not impaire your judgement MONTHS down the road.

    But anyway, I've already said I won't do it anymore. That's right. Come next birthday, i won't. big deal. Not a hard thing for me to do. Having it once or twice a year is NOT being addicted to it. Anyone who says you are is full of bull. i will not do it again, because it IS against the law, and being a health care provider who deals with drugs on a daily basis, I see the importance of having a 'clean' health care provider.
  5. by   iliel
    Originally posted by DMR1


    But anyway, I've already said I won't do it anymore. That's right. Come next birthday, i won't. big deal. Not a hard thing for me to do. Having it once or twice a year is NOT being addicted to it. Anyone who says you are is full of bull. i will not do it again, because it IS against the law, and being a health care provider who deals with drugs on a daily basis, I see the importance of having a 'clean' health care provider.
    I can respect that!
  6. by   sbic56
    Really interesting thread. There are so many varying opinions about marijuana. Lots of misconception and exaggeration about it seems the theme with stereotyping abounding. But, that is a whole different thread.

    I do agree that DMR1 should be clean if she feels that being otherwise may be a problem because she may be found out through the drug testing. The laws may not be good ones, but they are the law right now.

    Oh, and Russell, as usual, shooting straight from the hip. I like that.
  7. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Originally posted by DMR1
    That statement doesn't make any sense. People who drank before have also had impaired judgement. So...you've had a hangover, you shouldn't be treating patients. Is that what you're saying? HA!


    The common sense approach would be to NOT get to the point of being hungover before the night (day, etc.) you are to be at work.

    My approach is that if i have 3 days off and my last work day is friday, i go out saturday. Then upon my return to work, i am not having regrets on that extra whatever i decided to ingest.


    And i must say this. Every single person i have ever known (this does not mean all in the world are like this) that has smoked green, their only contribution to any conversation i have had with them consisted of the next "bag" they were going to score, the great "toker" they had a couple days ago, etc. That to me screams addiction.

    Not to mention a constant turnover of friends, considering that i think i offer more to the art of conversation than the best "smoke" i ever had. (never have smoked though)
  8. by   tgibson3770
    And to think I'd want someone in the medical profession hooked on dope working on me in a crisis situation. Get a life!
  9. by   jadednurse
    Originally posted by tgibson3770
    And to think I'd want someone in the medical profession hooked on dope working on me in a crisis situation. Get a life!
    Quite a sweeping, inaccurate, dramatic generalization. Don't worry, yours isn't the only one.

    I was surprised when I started nursing how many nurses (of all ages and backgrounds) actually smoke pot from time to time. I agree it has it's side effects, but smoking it several times a year hardly makes someone "hooked on dope."

    Smoking pot: to each his own. Smoking pot before going to work: different story.
  10. by   Good_Queen_Bess
    Originally posted by jadednurse
    Quite a sweeping, inaccurate, dramatic generalization. Don't worry, yours isn't the only one.

    I was surprised when I started nursing how many nurses (of all ages and backgrounds) actually smoke pot from time to time. I agree it has it's side effects, but smoking it several times a year hardly makes someone "hooked on dope."

    Smoking pot: to each his own. Smoking pot before going to work: different story.
    I agree. I think that is what people are misunderstanding here. We aren't talking about people coming to work stoned or people who partake every day and have developed a dependency. The people who smoke the odd few joints here and there isn't the problem. It's the same with alcohol.
  11. by   sbic56
    We can thank our great American propoganda machine for the gross misconceptions people have about marijuana. Moderation is key in whatever activity people choose to participate in. Lumping marijuana in with other hard drugs which truly are dangerous and can't be used in moderation is the tactic the gov't has used to scare people. Anyone is better off without alcohol, marijuana or any mind altering substance as the potential for abuse, thus physiological and psychological damage is there, but honest and accurate information about the substance would go alot further IMO when it comes to educating the public about marijuana specifically. Alcohol prohibition didn't work for many of the same reasons that prosecuting those who smoke marijuana isn't working in reducing the use of it. I know this is a debate that can go on forever, but I have to get in my 2 cents. The original poster should never have to worry that smoking marijuana on occasion might jeopardize her chances of joining the profession any more than I worry when I enjoy a few cold beers on occasion.

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