The Top Three AN Red Herrings

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I've been thinking about this a lot lately. It seems to me that whenever there is a debate here on AN, there are three predictable "red herrings" that get tossed into the mix. For those that don't know, a red herring is an element that distracts attention away from the real argument. There may be more, but these top three are the ones I have noticed the most. Perhaps others have more to add to the list! Feel free!

#1) The "Where is Your Compassion" Red Herring. Inevitably, whenever a poster takes an unpopular stance, their compassion is called into question. Questioning a nurse's compassion is like questioning a mechanic's willingness to get their hands dirty. It's such an integral part of nursing that I would give 99.9% of nurses the benefit of the doubt that they give compassionate care, no matter their opinion on a matter.

#2) The "Exception to the Rule" Red Herring. This one is pretty obvious. Whenever someone makes a generalization, no matter how much truth that generalization holds, someone always has to pipe up about their brother's mother in law's cousin who "had x,y, and z, but still managed to do a, b, and c". Know what? There is *always* an exception to the rule. That doesn't make the generalization any less true.

#3) The "Well, if you have never had (fill in the blank), then you couldn't possibly know anything about it" Red Herring. This one assumes that, for example, if I have never had a broken bone, I know nothing about the appropriate assessment, treatment, and follow up for that condition. Unless I have had my arm ripped off in an industrial accident, I couldn't possibly know anything at all about how to treat that patient. Unless I have not personally experienced burns over 50% of my body, I could not possibly know what is the most critical thing that needs to be done with that person.

Well, that's my little rant for the evening. Good night, all! :yawn:

fuzzywuzzy:

rainbows... shooting out of our butts...

i think i just skittles-skidded my skivvies reading that!

lmao!!!!!!!!!!

Specializes in Med/Surg, DSU, Ortho, Onc, Psych.

You forgot the other red herring on here: when you are constantly and demeaningly told 'you only have 2 years experience so what would you know?' Even if I had 20 years experience, rather than just nearly 3, I would be told by someone on AN 'You only have 20 years experience - I have 30!! So OBVIOUSLY I know more than you!' And it's always from long time, older memebers who - strangely enough - never get chastised and get away with saying anything they like to anybody.

Despite the fact that I have worked in hospitals for 26 years in positions much, much busier than nursing, this same, tired theme seems to be prevalent on AN. And it's getting SOOO old.

Otherwise a very funny thread.

Specializes in Oncology/Haemetology/HIV.
There better be cookies with that milk!

And they better be freshly baked ones.

Kudos to you for being courageous in your post. No red herrings here: ) It;s refreshing to see nurses with honesty and integrity. I work in any environment where patient care isn't the focus...it's money, money , money and its certainly reflected in some of the staff. Your work environment informs (for the most part) your level of care. We are nurses trying to do the best we can with whatever resources we have. Maintain your integrity and be honest with your quality of care. We went into nursing b/c we felt at some point that we wanted to contribute to somebody's wellbeing. Go back to that when you get frustrated. Remember what you do to others IS ALREADY DONE TO YOU!!!

Specializes in Peds Hem, Onc, Med/Surg.

Or how about:

I don't do it that way so you are wrong.

I don't think that way so you are wrong.

I don't feel that way so you are wrong

That is not my culture, so your culture is wrong.

YOU ARE WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG.

I have no evidence or experience to back me up but I am right.

ALWAYS RIGHT! :madface: ALWAYS!

And no amount of proof or rationalization will change my mind. EVER!

:D

Specializes in LTC, Medical, Rehab, Psych.

How about the "I've been a nurse for X number of years...... " speech that we newer nurses get before we're completely dismissed.

How about the one nurse who always comes into the threads telling the new nurse that they don't need their own insurance. "The hospital is there to protect you." Dear Lord.

I always get a kick out of the ones who are soooooo pretty that their instructors, perceptors, fellow students, other nurses, the CNAs, RTs, docs, etc. all are mean to them. They are all just jealous of them because of their beauty. Yeah, that must be it. If no one likes you it's on YOU. lol

Specializes in LTC, CPR instructor, First aid instructor..

Berating posters in the threads like the fat threads & taking things personally or being defensive when a general remark is posted without anyone in mind.

Specializes in Geriatrics, Home Health.
So I will add my vent, it's semi along the lines of this and been driving me nuts lately. You work hard to find a job, you do everything right, get out there, get noticed, followed up, bite the bullet and take boards within days of graduating to get a jump start and as you start getting interviews everyone tells you how "lucky" you are. As if you didn't just bust your behind to get "lucky". Or how about new grads complaining they aren't getting job hits but they aren't willing to work this shift or that shift and no holidays won't do and this unit won't work for me but boohoooo no one will even give me a shot.

On the flip side, nurses who are unable to find a nursing job, despite stellar grades, excellent references, hundreds of applications, and no preference about shifts or units, only to be told "You're not trying hard enough. You need to network more, and be prepared to move thousands of miles away at the drop of a hat. My mother's boyfriend's best friend's baby mama's son-in-law's mailman's ex-roommate's second cousin twice removed works at a hospital in the middle of nowhere, and they have hundreds of new grad openings. If you're not willing to work 12-hour shifts with weekly rotation for $9 an hour, with no benefits, you're too picky. "

I love, love, love, this post. Thank you for your widsom, insight, and courage.

Specializes in School Nurse.

Don't have time to go through all the posts, but so agree.

1) Compassion - unfortunately the other side of that is compassion fatigue. I will always remember the discussions we had in nursing school about compassion and empathy, and how to avoid burnout.

2) My favorite one :) Thank you thank you thank you! That's why the call for "evidence based practice" is such a hot topic in the most fields. I belong to several different boards for the animals I keep, my job, and other interest, and every one of them will say "my child did this" or "my dog did this" but yet if you look at the research you find a different story. Give me evidence based any day:coollook:

3) I am not a man, but most certainly can take care of them.

If a patient (or patient's family member) questions the healthcare they received it is because they just wanted their "pillow fluffed" or their "hair brushed," etc. No patient (or anyone related to the patient) could possibly EVER have a legitimate complaint.

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