The Top Three AN Red Herrings

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I've been thinking about this a lot lately. It seems to me that whenever there is a debate here on AN, there are three predictable "red herrings" that get tossed into the mix. For those that don't know, a red herring is an element that distracts attention away from the real argument. There may be more, but these top three are the ones I have noticed the most. Perhaps others have more to add to the list! Feel free!

#1) The "Where is Your Compassion" Red Herring. Inevitably, whenever a poster takes an unpopular stance, their compassion is called into question. Questioning a nurse's compassion is like questioning a mechanic's willingness to get their hands dirty. It's such an integral part of nursing that I would give 99.9% of nurses the benefit of the doubt that they give compassionate care, no matter their opinion on a matter.

#2) The "Exception to the Rule" Red Herring. This one is pretty obvious. Whenever someone makes a generalization, no matter how much truth that generalization holds, someone always has to pipe up about their brother's mother in law's cousin who "had x,y, and z, but still managed to do a, b, and c". Know what? There is *always* an exception to the rule. That doesn't make the generalization any less true.

#3) The "Well, if you have never had (fill in the blank), then you couldn't possibly know anything about it" Red Herring. This one assumes that, for example, if I have never had a broken bone, I know nothing about the appropriate assessment, treatment, and follow up for that condition. Unless I have had my arm ripped off in an industrial accident, I couldn't possibly know anything at all about how to treat that patient. Unless I have not personally experienced burns over 50% of my body, I could not possibly know what is the most critical thing that needs to be done with that person.

Well, that's my little rant for the evening. Good night, all! :yawn:

Old nurses are just taking up space and should retire...........

Specializes in Peds Medical Floor.
i'll add -

* i don't get to work in my dream area/can't get a job-tough market herring (though sadly true - not the herring!) because if i did, or had that job, etc - i'd never even complain regardless of the situation, or any issue, or hate my assignment/patient/family/guest/administration/co-workers/schedule, or how much i am paid or well, anything - about whatever the topic cause you, the dear op du jour, are ungrateful/a terrible nurse/burnt out and bitter/sociopath or ______ (use your imagination or just look few a few "hot threads").

yes i was going to say this one!! someone has a bad day, complains, and a least one person has to say "well i can't get hired so i'd gladly work for this company that treats you like crap! stop complaining because at least you have a job!!"

ugh!

Specializes in Gerontology, Med surg, Home Health.

If only you had a union.

That is my favorite Red Herring.

Specializes in Mental health, substance abuse, geriatrics, PCU.

My favorite red herring is the "I'm the BEST most HARDWORKING nurse that has ever existed, I NEVER take a lunch break, I NEVER call in, I take care of 25 critically ill patients BY MYSELF, I write my OWN orders because even the doctors bow down to my majestic sharp intellect and perfect smiling face. And if you ever were to work in MY hospital with MY staff I would FIRE you because I am a Nursing GODDESS!"

Whew... okay so perhaps that was a little over the top. Maybe I should make "Nursing Goddess" my signature? ;)

Specializes in ICU.

A couple people are missing the mark on what a red herring argument actually is....(Kinda kills the thread for me because I'm anal like that - my fault, not yours)

Some of things are not red herring arguments....but could definitely be considered "All Nursisms," if you will.

Carry on...

Specializes in Addiction, Psych, Geri, Hospice, MedSurg.

I have a 5 month old Great Dane that weighs almost 90#, and he's the most compassionate dog on earth!

Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.

"I'm not a nurse, but..."

Specializes in ICU.
"I'm not a nurse, but..."

The common defense to this statement falls under #3 from the original post:

#3) The "Well, if you have never had (fill in the blank), then you couldn't possibly know anything about it" Red Herring.

Except it's usually:

The "Well, you've never been a nurse so you couldn't possibly know anything about it..." Red Herring. Often used to discount opinions or viewpoints that the OP doesn't agree with or want to hear.

Specializes in Geriatrics, Home Health.

Universalizing your experience. AKA: "I've never experienced this, so it clearly doesn't exist. If it happens to you, it's your fault."

Examples:

Poster 1: "My co-worker cussed me out in front of my patient."

Poster 2: "My co-workers have never cussed me out in front of my patient. If that really happened to you, it's your own fault."

Poster 1: My feet hurt at the end of the day. Can anyone suggest comfortable shoes?

Poster 2: "My feet never hurt at the end of the day. If your feet really hurt, it's your own fault."

Poster 1: "A family member tried to follow me to my car. I was scared. How can I prevent that from happening again?"

Poster 2: "I've never had a family member try to follow me to my car. If it really happened, it's your own fault."

A couple people are missing the mark on what a red herring argument actually is....(Kinda kills the thread for me because I'm anal like that - my fault, not yours)

Some of things are not red herring arguments....but could definitely be considered "All Nursisms," if you will.

Carry on...

True. A lot of these are actually cliches. Still, they are a fun read! :coollook:

Not really an issue on this site, but in conversations with laypeople about my goals/aspirations this will inevitably come up-

"Well, don't feel bad about being a nurse right now because you're going to be a PA/CRNA/FNP soon, right?"

No... I'm going to be an RN, and a darn proud one at that.

The common defense to this statement falls under #3 from the original post:

Except it's usually:

The "Well, you've never been a nurse so you couldn't possibly know anything about it..." Red Herring. Often used to discount opinions or viewpoints that the OP doesn't agree with or want to hear.

:lol2::yeah::D

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