survived the bon and 5 day eval

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Here is an update to my situation. Due to my narcotic discrepencies, the BON made me go to an inpatient rehab facility for a 5 day eval. I was poked, prodded, yelled at, told I was a drug user or a drug seller, cursed at, etc etc. It was pure he** for 5 days. It was their job to break me down and admit if I took the drugs, well I didnt take the drugs so therefore I didnt break. Psychologists, Psychiatrists, addictive medicine doctors, etc drilled my brain for any glimpse of addictive personality. They even took a hair sample. Negative just like all the urine drug screens. It was like what you see on TV. CRAZY. I was almost crazy before I left. I really have some stories to tell. Now I do not take my license for granted, nor any of my family or freedom. What a hard lesson. Please learn from my mistakes. :balloons:

LISA

Hello LISA! Well I'm glad you're done with the eval. Definitely sounds like it was he**, I'm SO SORRY! But, the brightside is you're done jumping through their hoops and you can move on with your life and your career. CONGRATULATIONS. It's also nice to see you back on the boards. :p

~CRYSTAL

Do you mind telling us exactly how the charting was considered wrong? For example not charting and having 2nd nurse witness the waste? Just curious so we can learn from you and not make the same mistake. Also wish you the best to move on from this ordeal. Sounds like it is time for positive change in your life. I am thankful you did not lose your license.

Here is an update to my situation. Due to my narcotic discrepencies, the BON made me go to an inpatient rehab facility for a 5 day eval. I was poked, prodded, yelled at, told I was a drug user or a drug seller, cursed at, etc etc. It was pure he** for 5 days. It was their job to break me down and admit if I took the drugs, well I didnt take the drugs so therefore I didnt break. Psychologists, Psychiatrists, addictive medicine doctors, etc drilled my brain for any glimpse of addictive personality. They even took a hair sample. Negative just like all the urine drug screens. It was like what you see on TV. CRAZY. I was almost crazy before I left. I really have some stories to tell. Now I do not take my license for granted, nor any of my family or freedom. What a hard lesson. Please learn from my mistakes. :balloons:

LISA

What a hell hole and a nightmare. I am sick that you had to go thru that and then to live in LA and have the Hurricane. You deserve a break.

Sounds like you may have a form of PTSD after that. I'm serious. :( Is there a trusted therapist you can see, or some sort of debriefing??

I agree w/movingalong: abuse??!!

Yes I do believe I am having PTSD. Since I left that place I have been having nightmares, I wake up in the middle of the night sweating, wondering where I am. I feel very timid now and I am not a timid person, almost scared. thats interesting, thank you for your thoughts.

LISA

Do you mind telling us exactly how the charting was considered wrong? For example not charting and having 2nd nurse witness the waste? Just curious so we can learn from you and not make the same mistake. Also wish you the best to move on from this ordeal. Sounds like it is time for positive change in your life. I am thankful you did not lose your license.

yes, there were many occasions where I did not make sure the nurse who saw my waste go sign the paper. We had a paper systen with narcotics and with this system you can get lazy. Instead of the two nurses walking over to the sheet to waste, I would just show my waste and ask that nurse to go sign. There were so many times that it did not get signed, so that looked bad. Nurses! always cover you butt!! This was hard lesson learned, I will never forget.

LISA

yes, there were many occasions where I did not make sure the nurse who saw my waste go sign the paper. We had a paper systen with narcotics and with this system you can get lazy. Instead of the two nurses walking over to the sheet to waste, I would just show my waste and ask that nurse to go sign. There were so many times that it did not get signed, so that looked bad. Nurses! always cover you butt!! This was hard lesson learned, I will never forget.

LISA

The techniques you were subjected to almost sound like brain washing. Brain washing is considered a type of torture. I guess everyone in the world is covered by the Genevea Convention but a nurse. Even if you were a drug user you would still just be a person with a disease. What gives with this mistreatment? Never heard of such a thing and I have worked may places where counts were messed up big time.
The techniques you were subjected to almost sound like brain washing. Brain washing is considered a type of torture. I guess everyone in the world is covered by the Genevea Convention but a nurse. Even if you were a drug user you would still just be a person with a disease. What gives with this mistreatment? Never heard of such a thing and I have worked may places where counts were messed up big time.

Thanks for that, my thoughts exactly. I really felt like I was being brain washed, if I was not a strong person, I might have succomed. I know the facility has to be tough and stern to handle addicts, especially those who are in denial, but I was there for the disciplinary action on my license. It was their job to do what the BON wanted, the psychological eval, even the hair test, but all the yelling and cursing was not called for.

What an OUTRAGE!!!

However: LisaBear, at least you know that YOU triumphed! You apparently went through hell to DO it ~ but you should be PROUD of yourself!

A lesser person couldn't have withstood it.

Congrats! :balloons:

Remember you are only getting one side of the story

Isn't this kind of thing against the law? Can police officers do this when interrogating suspects? Their "job was to break you down?" Isn't this abuse? I am just horrified!

"That what does kill us makes us stronger."

Lisa, your experience will make you a stronger nurse. Thanks for posting, while I have never allowed anyone to rush me during narc sign out, I am sure others have been placed in that situation. It is good to get a reminder from fellow nurses as to just how precious our license is.

Dear Lisa,

I went through the same thing w/ the BON 3 years ago for charting errors w/ narcotics. They just a few months ago got around to handing out my punishment.

My licence is now restricted for 2 years and I have to call in daily for random urine screens. I never once tested positive for anything either, because I never took anything.

I worked in a fast paced PACU and was careless. I'm going to get thru these 2 years. Then I just may leave nursing. I'm 56 years old and have 3 kids in college or I would leave right now. I'll be 58!!!! before am off "probation"

Good luck to you. Dealing w/ the BON is a very long and difficult process.

"That what does kill us makes us stronger."

Lisa, your experience will make you a stronger nurse. Thanks for posting, while I have never allowed anyone to rush me during narc sign out, I am sure others have been placed in that situation. It is good to get a reminder from fellow nurses as to just how precious our license is.

Maybe, "Does NOT kill us..." :chuckle

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