So why even bother with getting an RN? - page 7

Saw an ad for urgent care wanting to hire MAs. They want you to be able to provide compassionate nursing care, assessing patients & taking effective action. They also want you to be able to triage... Read More

  1. by   carolinapooh
    Quote from BrandonLPN
    So the upshot is less education = fewer med errors? I question the validity of this study. I'm sure the facilities in which these studies are being conducted have significant vested interests in skewing the data.
    Also, it could be a case of the data skewing itself - as in, there are more errors per RNs/LPNs because there are MORE RNs/LPNs who are passing meds. If that's not explicitly stated (and as you know, that happens!), then it's implied that the above stated result in Arizona is true - when it's actually not.

    Plus, the real caveat is 'statistically insignificant'. If it's statistically insignificant, then it's practically irrelevant.

    Truly I'm not concerned about my role being replaced in this regard if this is what's being presented as evidence.
  2. by   OCNRN63
    Quote from Asystole RN
    Arizona's BON has been conducting studies with CNAs being trained as Med Techs. So far the CNAs have a lower, statistically insignificant, but lower med error rate over both LPNs and RNs.

    Techs are in fact replacing traditional roles that LPNs, and to some extent RNs, but the roles of RNs seem to be expanding.
    The CNAs are not also responsible for all of the other aspects of patient care that nurses are. Those are the things that can sometimes get you caught up in a med error.
  3. by   netglow
    Reading Asystole RN's comment, about RN roles seeming to be expanding - expanding to doing what? I mean, really what to that is still RN and not APN?

    I have only "intuition" moments when I see a hospital system to the south of me wanting RNs with 5+ minimum experience, with some kind of line in their ads saying it needs to be intense experience within what ever specialty they are advertising for at that moment. BUT the jobs are for office. My intuition says to me, they want old school APN level experience (meaning back when APNs really had a good amount of experience as RNs - pretty much were trusted clinically to know what to do and do it) to work with practice MDs in this system. I feel they don't want the expense of APNs but want someone who is right there but still an RN.

    So fast things change - I think some networks will try and grab a few of you "old bats" out there if you come riding in at the right time since things are moving out of the hospital.... office can be chaos, and MDs start sniffling without a good old bat there to save them and impose order on things.