RN bashing - page 7

I don't know about the rest of you RNs, but I'm sick of seeing all the posts where we are being bashed by those who aren't one. When I joined here, I actually thought it was a place for nurses to... Read More

  1. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Here's a wild idea i thought of, how about people minding their own business when it comes to what educational level is best for them?

    I, personally, do not need any RNs giving me the same (tired-***ed) "you should go back to school" speech, nor do i have the need for **** crap from any co-workers (RNs or LPNs) to try and interfere with my concentration at work. There's enough destractions without people bring up such petty crap, when in fact, WHERE i plan on taking my education to isn't any of their **** business.

    The bashing crap needs to stop, from BOTH directions.
  2. by   SCRN1
    I see this same screen name saying this same kind of thing in several different posts frequently. Sounds bitter. If I ever say anything to an LPN about furthering their career, I'm meaning it with the best of intentions and as a compliment to them because I feel they are smart enough & have what it takes to increase their education, skills, etc and deserve to be paid more.
    Quote from LPN2Be2004
    Here's a wild idea i thought of, how about people minding their own business when it comes to what educational level is best for them?

    I, personally, do not need any RNs giving me the same (tired-***ed) "you should go back to school" speech, nor do i have the need for **** crap from any co-workers (RNs or LPNs) to try and interfere with my concentration at work. There's enough destractions without people bring up such petty crap, when in fact, WHERE i plan on taking my education to isn't any of their **** business.

    The bashing crap needs to stop, from BOTH directions.
  3. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Quote from SCRN1
    I see this same screen name saying this same kind of thing in several different posts frequently. Sounds bitter. If I ever say anything to an LPN about furthering their career, I'm meaning it with the best of intentions and as a compliment to them because I feel they are smart enough & have what it takes to increase their education, skills, etc and deserve to be paid more.
    If you're seeing the bitterness, then you didn't read it very well. There's a diference between bitterness and frustration. Not to mention there's a person that uses 'this screen name'.

    My point was, i know what's best for me in the education dept. What i'm saying is that people need to think twice before they entitle themselves to give someone a speech on what they should do with their lives and/or career, especially if the 'advice' is unsolicited. How would you feel if people repeatedly told you that you should go back to school when you just got OUT of school, and think that they need to tell you this FREQUENTLY, even though you never asked? Not "bitter". FRUSTRATED.
    Last edit by Marie_LPN, RN on Jun 21, '04 : Reason: forgot something
  4. by   Tweety
    Quote from LPN2Be2004
    If you're seeing the bitterness, then you didn't read it very well. There's a diference between bitterness and frustration. Not to mention there's a person that uses 'this screen name'.

    My point was, i know what's best for me in the education dept. What i'm saying is that people need to think twice before they entitle themselves to give someone a speech on what they should do with their lives and/or career, especially if the 'advice' is unsolicited. How would you feel if people repeatedly told you that you should go back to school when you just got OUT of school, and think that they need to tell you this FREQUENTLY, even though you never asked? Not "bitter". FRUSTRATED.

    It must indeed be frustrating to hear that repeatedly. I still stand by my post earlier, that if you were a friend or a coworker I would mention the advantages of going for the RN and encourage it one time (like you didn't know). But if it was a more casual acquaintance then I wouldn't. But understand that people when they ask are you going for the RN are just making conversation, or even trying to be encouraging. There is no agenda to frustrate or demean you.
  5. by   Sundowner
    LPN here...been so for the last 10 years. Dont want to be an RN at this point in time, however, I have always found it to be a complimemt when someone asks me when I plan to be one. Yes sometimes it is annoying and gets old, but it is always a compliment.

    The salary thing, yes RN's make more than I do, when I do all of the same things that they do except for push IV meds. I often found myself angry that more of the RN responsibility seems to get pushed down to the LPN. This has happend alot in my particular facility....odd thing is that it doesent seem to be that our RN's have been handed down more responsibility, just that the group we have now can't seem to handle the job....and it has trickled down to us...but that is just my facility. I dont get angered over pay, if I werent happy with my pay I would leave. If I were disgruntled over an RN making more than me, well, that would be my own stupid fault wouldnt it?

    I have to say that I work in a facility where there may be one decent RN supervisor....she sadly cant handle cleaning up after the others all of the time. She cant run the place on her own, sadly in time she will quit.

    I have had the pleasure this week of orienting a RN who thought it was just insane for an LPN to be orienting her. She ended up feeling quite dumb at the end of the evening....and righfully so...she is a twit, which explained her attitude. I have also met the CNA who thinks I should be answering all her lights while she putz's around....well...I can help her do her job, but she CANT help me do mine. So when she comes at me with that attitude with her face in mine telling me she has four lights on and I could at least help her, I remind her of that fact....and she shuts up....untill she works with another nurse who puts up with her crap.

    It is a one hand washes the other profession. We are only as good as our counterparts let us be. I can't be a great LPN with out a great RN above me and a great CNA below me. That is the fact.
  6. by   deathnurse
    professionals. yeah. professionals.
  7. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Quote from 3rdShiftGuy
    It must indeed be frustrating to hear that repeatedly. I still stand by my post earlier, that if you were a friend or a coworker I would mention the advantages of going for the RN and encourage it one time (like you didn't know). But if it was a more casual acquaintance then I wouldn't. But understand that people when they ask are you going for the RN are just making conversation, or even trying to be encouraging. There is no agenda to frustrate or demean you.
    The majority of LPNs do their own research on it, which is how most came to the decision of whether or not to persue more education. There are some who give the "go back to school" speech in such a manner that makes it seem like if you don't go back to school, you're a fool. Not everyone does, i know, but i can think of two right now ("oh you'd be an idiot to stay as an LPN" or "RN is where the money is". The first one, i'd said "I'm proud to be an idiot", second one "well for some it's not always about the paycheck, but it's nice to know where you stand". And it's probable that person's not in it for the money, but when that's their first given reason on why you should go back, well lol.).


    Thing is, in the work setting, just because i don't actively mention that i'm going back to school eventually, etc. does NOT mean that i won't go back or thati'm not thinking about it (personal decision, personal life, in other words, no one's business, and in the workplace i keep that sort of thing to myself). And some interpret this as their cue to tell you what they think you should do. My reply is typically "I'll decide what's best for me and go from there" and walk off. I mean, advice is one thing (and usually appreciated), but i guess i'm weird in think that there's no way i'd even think of telling some fresh LPN grad (or anyone for that matter) that he/she needs to go back to school. Their choice/decision, not mine. I only wish the same courtesy in return, since i have my parents that already tell me what i think i should do (and heck, they even know that it's all up to me).
  8. by   Tweety
    Quote from LPN2Be2004
    The majority of LPNs do their own research on it, which is how most came to the decision of whether or not to persue more education. There are some who give the "go back to school" speech in such a manner that makes it seem like if you don't go back to school, you're a fool. Not everyone does, i know, but i can think of two right now ("oh you'd be an idiot to stay as an LPN" or "RN is where the money is". The first one, i'd said "I'm proud to be an idiot", second one "well for some it's not always about the paycheck, but it's nice to know where you stand". And it's probable that person's not in it for the money, but when that's their first given reason on why you should go back, well lol.).


    Thing is, in the work setting, just because i don't actively mention that i'm going back to school eventually, etc. does NOT mean that i won't go back or thati'm not thinking about it (personal decision, personal life, in other words, no one's business, and in the workplace i keep that sort of thing to myself). And some interpret this as their cue to tell you what they think you should do. My reply is typically "I'll decide what's best for me and go from there" and walk off. I mean, advice is one thing (and usually appreciated), but i guess i'm weird in think that there's no way i'd even think of telling some fresh LPN grad (or anyone for that matter) that he/she needs to go back to school. Their choice/decision, not mine. I only wish the same courtesy in return, since i have my parents that already tell me what i think i should do (and heck, they even know that it's all up to me).

    I appreciate and understand where you're coming from.

    I would never presume to tell anyone that the need to go back to school. However, I do encourage it without making someone feel "less than" if I'm making sense. As I mentioned earlier, I've encouraged my two coworkers and that's it. I won't mention it again, as you say it's their decision. One of these days I guess someone's going to bite my head off so I should listen to you more, but as long as I'm sincere it won't bother me.
  9. by   mattsmom81
    Quote from LPN2Be2004
    If you're seeing the bitterness, then you didn't read it very well. There's a diference between bitterness and frustration. Not to mention there's a person that uses 'this screen name'.

    My point was, i know what's best for me in the education dept. What i'm saying is that people need to think twice before they entitle themselves to give someone a speech on what they should do with their lives and/or career, especially if the 'advice' is unsolicited. How would you feel if people repeatedly told you that you should go back to school when you just got OUT of school, and think that they need to tell you this FREQUENTLY, even though you never asked? Not "bitter". FRUSTRATED.
    I get told all the time I should get my BSN, my MSN ..even from docs "Now why didn't a smart girl like you go to medical school?" A simple , pleasant response builds a relationship. An angry, frustrated, bitter sounding response has its ramifications too. Why choose to believe its a putdown over someone who may be just trying to make conversation?

    There's people everywhere who love to tell others what they think and what to do...I just smile, nod, and think 'whatever' ...and do what I want to do. Why get our panties in a wad. My blood pressure's high enough already..... :chuckle
  10. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    It's not a matter that i believe that the advice is always a put down (although there's some...). But one person doesn't take into consideration that an LPN is already hearing the same thing from 17 other people.

    Or in my case, a total of 32 (and counting) telling me that i need to go back to school. Haven't taken my NCLEX yet, and still have people telling me what i "should do next". Heck, even got the speech in school.
  11. by   velvetchi
    I'm not to sure how student nurses find working on the wards in the USA, but we have healthcare assistant which I guess would probably be nurses aids if you still have them, who go out of their way to drive us nuts :angryfire it seems to be their mission in life to make as much trouble as they can and then blame the student nurses! The RN's that I have worked with have been fine apart from one who to say she was cruel to the pateints is a under statement.


    I have been told that healthcare assistants are jealous of student nurses will if that the case they should do the same training as us,
  12. by   AtlantaRN
    We can either stand together, or surely we will fall apart.

    linda
  13. by   TheCommuter
    OLD THREAD ALERT.....This thread is over 2 years old!

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