RN bashing

SmilingBluEyes · Jun 19, 2004

Fortunately, like Cinderella, the shoe does not fit me. Nice lecture, however. Sorry to hear your experiences w/RN's are so bad.

leslie :-D · Jun 19, 2004

i just wish people would realize those that bash or belittle others, is a reflection of THEIR OWN inadequacies and their titles are what they hide behind.

Energizer Bunny · Jun 19, 2004

i worked my way up from cna, lvn, adn, bsn all in ltc. just give some of these people a little bit of power and they can be very nasty. when it comes to being nasty to cna's some rn's & lvn's run neck and neck & some cna's wrote the book on rudeness. however, out of the entire nursing staff rn's have no excuse for treating lvn's or cna's in an unprofessional manner. that is because through their licensure they are supervisors who are accountable not only for their actions but for the actions of lvn's and cna's. an rn never looks so big as when she/he is stooping down to help a cna. respect is not a right it is earned. i hope no one here is trying to imply that just because rn's have more education that they are above being criticized by the cna's. i thank godfor this forum because we can all come here and safely speak from our hearts. i enjoy the hell out of what the cna's write on this site because it gives me a different perspective. if any cna's or lvn's (or rn's for that matter) want to bash rn's you can pm :rotfl: me and i'll probably agree with you and get a good laugh.

everyone can be nasty to everyone else. the letters behind their name make no difference. it's their attitude and general feeling toward other humans that makes them the way they are, not their credentials!

SCRN1 · Jun 19, 2004

That is so true!

Everyone can be nasty to everyone else. The letters behind their name make no difference. It's their attitude and general feeling toward other humans that makes them the way they are, not their credentials!

Marty LPN · Jun 19, 2004

I don't know about the rest of you RNs, but I'm sick of seeing all the posts where we are being bashed by those who aren't one. When I joined here, I actually thought it was a place for nurses to communicate with other nurses by sharing things about their work, asking each other's opinions on things, etc.
What I keep seeing more and more of is a CNA or LPN complaining about how registered nurses are so bad in how they treat them. True, there are some registered nurses who may have a thing against them. But, most seem to appreciate all the help they receive from them and those who come here are constantly trying to tell them that.
Why can't we all just get along and do our jobs in which we were hired?

I have been an LPN for 21 years. I have worked in many different areas over the years, mostly in acute care settings. I find that for the most part RN's and LPN's work together to provide a good quality of care. Please don't let these individauls anger you. More than likely, they have been made to feel this way by their place of employment, and more than likely their states board of nursing. As nurses, we have noone but ourselves to blame for the aminosity that is out there between the RN and the LPN. Most professional nursing organizatios do not recognize LPN's as nurses. As nurses we have allowed these bueracratic individuals to continue to build a wall between us. We are all nurses, (as the word nurse appears in both titles). I am very proud to be an LPN and am very comfortable with my skills. I aknowledge the educational and the legal differences between both classifications of nurses. However the LPN was created to ease the shortage of RN's during the war effort, and again we find ourselves in a nursing shortage, this time on a much larger scale. The only way we can continue to make sure that our patients continue to receive the best possible care, is to work together. The states could help, by expanding the role of the LPN who works at the bedside. Make competancy verfication for advanced skills mandatory for licensure renewal. Most providances in Canada do this. The LPN role encompasses more acute tasks, including the administration of IV push medications, yet they still work under the direction of a RN/MD. So lets stop building a wall between ourselves, and try to institute changes that are benefical to us as "nurses" and to those who we devote ourselves to care for..."our patients"

FNP2B · Jun 20, 2004

"its never to late to be what you might have been"

Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN · Jun 21, 2004

Here's a wild idea i thought of, how about people minding their own business when it comes to what educational level is best for them?

I, personally, do not need any RNs giving me the same (tired-***ed) "you should go back to school" speech, nor do i have the need for **** crap from any co-workers (RNs or LPNs) to try and interfere with my concentration at work. There's enough destractions without people bring up such petty crap, when in fact, WHERE i plan on taking my education to isn't any of their **** business.

The bashing crap needs to stop, from BOTH directions.

SCRN1 · Jun 21, 2004

I see this same screen name saying this same kind of thing in several different posts frequently. Sounds bitter. If I ever say anything to an LPN about furthering their career, I'm meaning it with the best of intentions and as a compliment to them because I feel they are smart enough & have what it takes to increase their education, skills, etc and deserve to be paid more.

Here's a wild idea i thought of, how about people minding their own business when it comes to what educational level is best for them?
I, personally, do not need any RNs giving me the same (tired-***ed) "you should go back to school" speech, nor do i have the need for **** crap from any co-workers (RNs or LPNs) to try and interfere with my concentration at work. There's enough destractions without people bring up such petty crap, when in fact, WHERE i plan on taking my education to isn't any of their **** business.
The bashing crap needs to stop, from BOTH directions.

Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN · Jun 21, 2004

I see this same screen name saying this same kind of thing in several different posts frequently. Sounds bitter. If I ever say anything to an LPN about furthering their career, I'm meaning it with the best of intentions and as a compliment to them because I feel they are smart enough & have what it takes to increase their education, skills, etc and deserve to be paid more.

If you're seeing the bitterness, then you didn't read it very well. There's a diference between bitterness and frustration. Not to mention there's a person that uses 'this screen name'. :rolleyes:

My point was, i know what's best for me in the education dept. What i'm saying is that people need to think twice before they entitle themselves to give someone a speech on what they should do with their lives and/or career, especially if the 'advice' is unsolicited. How would you feel if people repeatedly told you that you should go back to school when you just got OUT of school, and think that they need to tell you this FREQUENTLY, even though you never asked? Not "bitter". FRUSTRATED. :rolleyes:

Tweety, BSN, RN · Jun 22, 2004

If you're seeing the bitterness, then you didn't read it very well. There's a diference between bitterness and frustration. Not to mention there's a person that uses 'this screen name'.
My point was, i know what's best for me in the education dept. What i'm saying is that people need to think twice before they entitle themselves to give someone a speech on what they should do with their lives and/or career, especially if the 'advice' is unsolicited. How would you feel if people repeatedly told you that you should go back to school when you just got OUT of school, and think that they need to tell you this FREQUENTLY, even though you never asked? Not "bitter". FRUSTRATED.

It must indeed be frustrating to hear that repeatedly. I still stand by my post earlier, that if you were a friend or a coworker I would mention the advantages of going for the RN and encourage it one time (like you didn't know). But if it was a more casual acquaintance then I wouldn't. But understand that people when they ask are you going for the RN are just making conversation, or even trying to be encouraging. There is no agenda to frustrate or demean you. :)

Sundowner · Jun 22, 2004

LPN here...been so for the last 10 years. Dont want to be an RN at this point in time, however, I have always found it to be a complimemt when someone asks me when I plan to be one. Yes sometimes it is annoying and gets old, but it is always a compliment.

The salary thing, yes RN's make more than I do, when I do all of the same things that they do except for push IV meds. I often found myself angry that more of the RN responsibility seems to get pushed down to the LPN. This has happend alot in my particular facility....odd thing is that it doesent seem to be that our RN's have been handed down more responsibility, just that the group we have now can't seem to handle the job....and it has trickled down to us...but that is just my facility. I dont get angered over pay, if I werent happy with my pay I would leave. If I were disgruntled over an RN making more than me, well, that would be my own stupid fault wouldnt it?

I have to say that I work in a facility where there may be one decent RN supervisor....she sadly cant handle cleaning up after the others all of the time. She cant run the place on her own, sadly in time she will quit.

I have had the pleasure this week of orienting a RN who thought it was just insane for an LPN to be orienting her. She ended up feeling quite dumb at the end of the evening....and righfully so...she is a twit, which explained her attitude. I have also met the CNA who thinks I should be answering all her lights while she putz's around....well...I can help her do her job, but she CANT help me do mine. So when she comes at me with that attitude with her face in mine telling me she has four lights on and I could at least help her, I remind her of that fact....and she shuts up....untill she works with another nurse who puts up with her crap.

It is a one hand washes the other profession. We are only as good as our counterparts let us be. I can't be a great LPN with out a great RN above me and a great CNA below me. That is the fact.

deathnurse · Jun 22, 2004

professionals. yeah. professionals.