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I am informally polling my peers to find out the general recruitment practices and attitudes in your area. I will also discuss briefly my own experience here in Las Vegas.

Nevada has the fewest nurses per 100,000 population of any state in the country - due in large part to the booming growth in Las Vegas. The city's population is growing at the rate of 6,000 residents per month, and it grew by 83% between the 1990 and 2000 censuses. We now have over 1.5 million permanent residents, plus 200,000-300,000 tourists at any given time.

In theory, this should translate to a large numbers of medical jobs available. In practice, jobs are proving elusive despite the fact that almost every hospital here has an expansion project underway. Applications are met with apparent ambivalence, and there are few followup contacts by employers. It is almost a necessity to work a place from the inside in order to get hired, which you cannot do unless you know someone there. My experience has been that the nursing shortage here is partially self-inflicted.

My wife and I are both nurses, and we have both struggled to find work in an area of severe nursing shortage. Nursing friends of ours have reported similar experiences. Employers in Las Vegas seem indifferent, do not follow up on applications for months (and sometimes not at all), and will not hire someone who does not have the exact background they are looking for. I worked in mental health and was thrown out of work when my hospital's parent company closed my facility. I drew unemployment for three months, because no hospital would even talk to me. At the time, I had five years of nursing experience, all in a supervisory capacity, and a national certification.

Is our experience typical, or is this peculiar to our market?

Specializes in Everything except surgery.

Not sure where in Florida you are Michelle, I was able to find several positions open with NO experience needed.

http://www.medhunters.com/regionJobs/Cape%20Coral%20FL.html#320849

I might be able to assist you in finding a position in Florida...if you're interested. If interested...pm me, and I will check out some sources on Monday, and email you as soon as I find something. Worth a try...but totally up to you.

when moving from one part of the country to another last year for family reasons, I applied at 7 different hospitals. I got appointments/call backs from 2 of the 7 hospitals. I have over 20 years varied experience and a good work record. One hospital lost my resume and the recruiter was 45 minutes late for the interview. This was one of the two places that responded to letters/phone calls for interviews. The other place that responded to my inquiry about openings ended up hiring me and I left after 2 months because so much I had asked about was misrepresented in the interview. Talk about disappointment!!! I think some places actually promote the "shortage" story so the regular staff will not complain about the overwhelming workload. Maybe I am way off-base here....but I do wonder at times if there isn't secondary gain to being a short staffed hospital!!!

Specializes in Everything except surgery.

I know for a fact, that the shortage is real, as their are many hospitals begging for travel nurses, and offering unheard of bonuses. But I was totally unaware of how difficult it was to get a fulltime perm position. I guess I have been out of the loop on this one...as I have been agency for so long. Also I would never go to work a hospital before working there via agency...to see exactly what does go on behind the scenes.

But being a new grad...doesn't give you that option. But you can visit the travel nursing boards, and ask them about hospitals you're concerning going on staff at, and they will give your their opinions...and how...:chuckle.

I'm very sorry to hear of all the problems there are in finding decent work. But if anyone is in AZ...Scottsdale Healthcare....is a very good place to work at. Just a tip for anyone looking in the area...:cool:

:rolleyes: All of what you guys are saying is very real. It basically comes down to MONEY. The hospital where previously worked, would use agency left and right.why? so they did not have to pay benefits and could easily drop and add on the nurses as the census required.

Plus they are going all over the world to recruit foreign nurses, so they can oay them spit. It is a real problem out there.

The best thing is to have a few different

things under your belt to fall back on. PRN jobs or PT at a NH or whatever, cause obviously the employers do not care as long as their is a body there!

just my opinion.

Specializes in ER, ICU, L&D, OR.

Howdy yall

from deep in the heat of texas

I have a full time job, and Im always recieving offers of jobs with immediate hiring available and not just in texas but other state as well. I have no idea about the north though as I will never move north. Too damn cold in the winter. My old bones like the warmth and the sun and heat.

doo wah ditty

Just a thought, don't know if it is true. Is it possible these places that don't seem to be eager to hire are expecting an influx of foreign workers? They think they are going to get all these subservient, inexpensive workers. Not to say that is what is going to happen, but it is what they expect. When the goverment eased restrictions on IT workers I heard complaints that IT workers could not get even an interview in NY, Texas and Calif. Just wondering, don't know anything.

Specializes in Everything except surgery.

You know what oramar...you might just be right! And maybe the hospitals are using Travel Nurses in the interim...while their waiting for the restrictions to lift. This way...they wouldn't waste money(in their eyes)...by training a new grad...who "usually" leaves in less than a year. The foriegn nurses...I have seen usually are contracted for 2yrs or more, and must have at least 3yrs experience. In fact I found a site that is very agresssively recruiting foreign nurses to the US!

http://jobs.escapeartist.com/J-36416/ And look at what they're offering.

Brownie: I think you are right on target.

This seems to be the trend these days.

The heck with the patients and continuity

of care, just the almighty BUCK! How sad. The shortage as they say IS self inflicted.:eek:

Not that problem here in NC. Our hospital nurse recruiters are GREAT. I get continual nursing letters for NC/SC with job openings, bonuses and what not. I get multiple calls from "Head hunters" every few weeks....

You may be in an area where recruiting is not a science and the practices are as out dated as the recruiters.

sorry to hear.

good luck

Specializes in ICU.

i haven't had any problems here in central texas. i will be starting a new job on monday. full time days in ccu-very hard to come by, but i am experianced. they barely let my resume get totally faxed through before they were calling me! also the other hospital that i work with seems to be hiring for all departments on a daily basis. you would think with the amount of people they hire that the turn over is high. but, it is the fact that we are so short and acuity is getting higher. good luck to all on their job searches!!!

I have had so many WORTHLESS calls from "headhunters" that I finally had to take my resume off the internet. They call, you spend (sometimes) up to 30-45 mins. on the phone w/them and then you never hear from them again!

As far as the recruiters go, obviously the left hand doesn't know what the right is doing. They have excellent ADVERTISING skills but sorely lack any adequate HUMAN RESOURCE skills.

I would definitely agree w/oramar, Starkid2616 and terrina -- something is definitely up - whether it be the foreign recruits or reliance on the "nursing shortage" as a scapegoat - I suspect the hospitals have some kind of financially motivated reason for purposely refusing regular, full-time employment to qualified nurses willing to put up with the conditions that they have imposed. It just doesn't make sense to us!

Specializes in CVOR,CNOR,NEURO,TRAUMA,TRANSPLANTS.

This is one of the main reasons why I travel,

I pick the area I want and my resume is posted to thier hospitals and which ever fish bites is the one I begin negotiations with, They are aware of my credentials and what Im willing to put up with and my demands , if they dont bite thats fine , the old tale is true there are more fish in the sea...

I have yet to go without any of my demands being met at anyone one time that I have worked , You may want to consider traveling even in your own area. Some hospitals tend to hire travelers becasue we are short timers and are very flexiable to a point, I know of many that travel in thier own area and make better money.

Zoe

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