Public Health and birth control - page 5

Can you be a public health nurse and not have to give out birth control (morning after pill especially)?... Read More

  1. Visit  LACA profile page
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    Quote from JayMar23
    You are so mean to me! I am not even making a big deal of anything right now what is your problem!

    Wow, I swear my neice said something almost identical to this the other day when she was in trouble for doing something she shouldn't have...what's ironic though is....SHE'S THREE!

    The above statement makes you sound like an immature, childish person....your posts are beginning to concrete that thought....
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  3. Visit  klone profile page
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    Quote from JayMar23
    Yeah I guess it depends on what someone's opinion of the morning after pill is, I consider it to be a very early abortion and not the same thing as using a condom or taking the birth control pill so I would not be comfortable supporting that in any way
    But it's not early abortion. Emergency contraceptive does NOT end already established pregnancies. It works by preventing ovulation and preventing implantation - same as regular BCPs
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    Quote from JayMar23
    I know that plan B can flush out conception, before it has attached to the uterine wall. I consider this the start of human life, but I guess technically you are not pregnant at this point but I belive this is the start of human life, and thats just personally where i draw the line, that is why i disagree with what others are saying about plan B.
    Do you disagree with regular birth control pill use? Because they work the EXACT SAME WAY.
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    Quote from JayMar23
    I know that plan B can flush out conception, before it has attached to the uterine wall. I consider this the start of human life, but I guess technically you are not pregnant at this point but I belive this is the start of human life, and thats just personally where i draw the line, that is why i disagree with what others are saying about plan B.
    Your "knowledge" of what Plan B is, and how it works, is just plain wrong.

    As someone stated (although not in the correct amounts), Plan B is no different than taking a larger dose of a regular birth control pill. In fact, if you google "emergency contraception," you can find sites that list how to use MANY different BCP brands AS emergency contraception (mine, for example, is 4 pills and then 4 more 12 hours later, or 8 pills all at once). It WILL NOT terminate an existing pregnancy, just like taking the pill daily won't.

    You can't have the "opinion" that Plan B is "early abortion," because it isn't. I can't have the opinion that the grass is red, because it is not. At least formulate a valid arguement before you choose to defend your views.
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  6. Visit  CrazierThanYou profile page
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    Quote from klone
    Do you disagree with regular birth control pill use? Because they work the EXACT SAME WAY.
    Because she is of the Catholic faith, probably so.
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    Quote from CrazierThanYou
    Because she is of the Catholic faith, probably so.
    In previous posts/threads started on this topic, the OP has stated she is very in favor of birth control pills.
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    Quote from cherrybreeze
    In previous posts/threads started on this topic, the OP has stated she is very in favor of birth control pills.
    Well then, she is inconsistent, based on ignorance.
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    Quote from cherrybreeze
    In previous posts/threads started on this topic, the OP has stated she is very in favor of birth control pills.
    So, what's the problem then? Plan B IS the BIRTH CONTROL PILL.
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  10. Visit  AngelfireRN profile page
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    Quote from DeeAngel
    Do the public a favor and do not place yourself in a position where you cannot give patients the care and services they desire separate from your own feelings and beliefs. Women do not need yet another healthcare provider refusing to give or refer them to emergency contraception so they possibly end up having to have an abortion as a result of a decision that was forced on them because of your personal beliefs.

    This is about meeting the patient's needs, not yours. If you can't do the job 100% with whatever the patient wants done then please let the job go to someone who can do it.

    If you want to practice certain belief systems, then IMHO there are places in nursing where it's just not appropriate for you to work.
    If I could give you a thousand kudos, I would. You took the words right out of my mouth.
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    Quote from CrazierThanYou
    So, what's the problem then? Plan B IS the BIRTH CONTROL PILL.
    Wish I knew. OP has a misguided belief that Plan B is an abortion pill. Can't change some people's minds with, you know....truth.
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  12. Visit  RN4NICU profile page
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    It seems the OP has Plan B confused with RU-486
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  13. Visit  leslie :-D profile page
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    The Emergency Contraception Debate

    "Emergency Contraception, also known as the morning after pill or Plan B One-Step, is used to prevent pregnancy when taken within 5 days after unprotected intercourse. It will not harm an existing pregnancy."

    Emergency Contraception - EC - The Emergency Contraception Controversy

    leslie
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  14. Visit  Beebop25 profile page
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    I know that Plan B prevents implantation, but it does not prevent fertilization. I have friends that have taken it, they are still my friends, i just never personally would or want to give it out. In regards to getting the paycheck, in Canada our tax dollars already go to abortion without any of us getting a choice or say in that whatsoever (hoping that changes). My paycheck would come from the government of Canada/provincial government just as it has in other jobs that I have worked in so that part is really no different. It would upset me to work in a hospital knowing that was going on on the other side of the building but if I were doing work that I felt was helping people and had nothing to do with that, I think I would still feel like I was doing something great for people, and not going against my beliefs at all. It was a really good point though that was brought up about where your paycheck is coming from, and I have thought about that myself as well.


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